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Enjoy Opiates, Don't Enjoy Benzos?

Benzo's make me tired and I have trouble staying awake. Opiates make me really happy and comfortable. There is no comparison for me.
 
opiates (along with psychedelics) are my favorite drug, and i don't get much out of benzos. i haven't exactly run the gamut of benzos since i've only tried diazepam, clonazepam, and alprazolam (nothing like an opiate imo, GABA, then again your username suggests you are partial.)

does anyone have any ideas on whether a benzo would be more enjoyable to a highly anxious person or an average-anxiety person, or would that not matter?
 
Benzo's are for enhancing downers and taking the edge off of anxiety.

Opiods are for euphoria.

When I'm on a nice dose of opiods I can choose to fall asleep, be awake or walk the line between. I love that. With Benzo's I'll sometimes just randomly fall asleep. Then I wake up thinking wtf just happened, where did my day go and fuck I'm going to have a hard time sleeping tonight because I just used my last dose and it's worn off.

I guess in my opinion there is never, ever a situation where I would choose an opiod over a benzo. Considering opiods clear up my anxiety just the same as a benzo plus I get that euphoria.
 
Blind Melon said:
I guess in my opinion there is never, ever a situation where I would choose an opiod over a benzo. Considering opiods clear up my anxiety just the same as a benzo plus I get that euphoria.
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you mean there's never a time you'd choose a benzo over an opiate? (if that is what you mean, i concur.)
 
paradoxcycle said:
Hi guys. My girlfriend seems to be in the minority of folks that enjoy opiates but do not find benzos to be recreational. I cannot really relate to this as I find great pleasure in both. So does anyone else feel the same way? If so, what do you dislike about benzos?
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I think benzos are just a huge waste of time. THe high is not really pleasureable or pleasure-inducing, you tend not to remember a damn thing, and its just like being a senseless and emotionless zombie for a few hours. Theres no real inner mental stimulation, you just turn off and become comatose. Completely one dimensional, purely objective high. Boring. Benzos also tend to leave me with a pounding headache the next day. Zzzz...ill pass kthx.

Benzos are great if you are coming off of speed or some other upper, or when you hit a rut of insomnia. Thats pretty much their only use for me.


I love everything about opiates. The physical sensation is unparalleled, the mental stimulation can range from trivial to blissfull, colorful dreams. There is no comedown, no hangover. Addiction sucks, yes, but benzos are addictive too remember. Opiates can have some versatility. You can get completely smacked by yourself and throw on some great music and sit there and just let it take over your body, feeling the sensation surge from head to toe, then sort of nod off and let your imagination create some very interesting lucid dreams. Or you can just take a smaller dose and sit around with friends and talk and just feel high as fuck all night (with subsequent smaller doses). I find it to be a great conversational piece, smaller amounts of opiates really stimualte social activity, much like cocaine or speed.

IMO comparing opaites to benzos is like comparing an IMAX movie to a small black and white television with aluminum foil for an antenna, that only recieves 3 channels and 2 of them are so fuzzy they arent worth watching.
 
THE WOOD said:
I think benzos are just a huge waste of time. THe high is not really pleasureable or pleasure-inducing, you tend not to remember a damn thing, and its just like being a senseless and emotionless zombie for a few hours. Theres no real inner mental stimulation, you just turn off and become comatose. Completely one dimensional, purely objective high. Boring. Benzos also tend to leave me with a pounding headache the next day. Zzzz...ill pass kthx.

Benzos are great if you are coming off of speed or some other upper, or when you hit a rut of insomnia. Thats pretty much their only use for me.


I love everything about opiates. The physical sensation is unparalleled, the mental stimulation can range from trivial to blissfull, colorful dreams. There is no comedown, no hangover. Addiction sucks, yes, but benzos are addictive too remember. Opiates can have some versatility. You can get completely smacked by yourself and throw on some great music and sit there and just let it take over your body, feeling the sensation surge from head to toe, then sort of nod off and let your imagination create some very interesting lucid dreams. Or you can just take a smaller dose and sit around with friends and talk and just feel high as fuck all night (with subsequent smaller doses). I find it to be a great conversational piece, smaller amounts of opiates really stimualte social activity, much like cocaine or speed.

IMO comparing opaites to benzos is like comparing an IMAX movie to a small black and white television with aluminum foil for an antenna, that only recieves 3 channels and 2 of them are so fuzzy they arent worth watching.
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nicely phrased.
 
yeah thats just me tho. friends of mine gobble up xanax like its going out of style on a regular basis. im down for some if im honestly that bored, but most of the time id almost rather just be sober and listen to music or something lol.
 
THE WOOD said:
yeah thats just me tho. friends of mine gobble up xanax like its going out of style on a regular basis. im down for some if im honestly that bored, but most of the time id almost rather just be sober and listen to music or something lol.
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im the same. benzos dont do dick for me except what theyre about to do!

potentiate! in this case alcohol.
 
rashandreflex said:
you mean there's never a time you'd choose a benzo over an opiate? (if that is what you mean, i concur.)
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I have not experienced a single situation in my whole life where I would have rather taken a benzo. Except for maybe when I'm already high on opiates and I can either continue raiding my stash or just eat a valium. But that doesn't count.
 
i'm going to resurrect this thread now bc i am on klonopin (.75 mg...not a high dose i know, but i'm a small girl and don't really have a tolerance) and i'm frustrated:X that i am not really getting that much out of it. i have mainly just been chilling on the internet - is there something else i should do to enhance the experience? or are benzos just not for me?
 
^^ Do you mean .75 every day or just right now?

I suppose I'll put my 2 cents in.

Benzos are mediocre recreational drugs by themselves. Sure they will get me fucked up, but it's the fucked up feeling I get from alcohol that I don't honestly enjoy that much. I feel like I'm just not with it, and I feel like should some situation arise where I'd need to be in control of myself, I couldn't be. Valium is nice to take the edge off a hangover or whatever, but more than 20 mg and I feel like I just want to lay down and take a nap. They make me uninterested in whatever is going on around me, and they make me boring. By that I mean they make me quiet and slow to respond to what people say or do.

Opiates are the best drugs in the world IMO. There is nothing else that produces such intense euphoria for me. Sure I might feel even better on the most amazing roll or at the peak of the best possible mushroom trip, but that's a different sort of euphoria. Opiates are unconditional love. There's no negative side to using them once and a while at all. True, it's hard to use them only once and a while, but that doesn't have to do with comparing the feelings between them and benzos.

Benzos are useful only in combination with other things I find. I love some valium with my smack, or xanax at the end of the night to pass out. They're godsends after coke or huge amounts of amps. I think smoothing out the rough edges of a stimulant buzz or comedown may be their real strong suit. The various different benzos have different effects, so some are more appropriate for one job than the rest. An example is xanax after the last line of coke. Hits hard, hits fast, and knocks me on my ass, exactly what I'd be looking for at that point. Lorazepam I find to be very much fun with opiates. Valium smooths out the edges of a coke high when you're actually still high.

So benzos are by no means worthless, but they aren't really recreational at all in my experience. In combination they are a useful set of tools, but I can't compare them to opiates whatsoever, opiates are just so good.
 
oddly enough, i have started feeling some effects from benzos.

its weird though..it isnt euphoric, its just that i can definitely tell when ive taken one. im not sure what tips me off..i guess its just a feeling of calm? i dunno, still rarely (if ever, only for sleep) take them by themselves.
 
i like opiates 1000 times more than benzos. benzos just make me feel so stupid and slow. when opiates make me feel good and noddy. i get almost sick of benzos, i cant enjoy anything... beer, cigs, weed, even opiates, it just makes everything dull...
 
ToxicFerret said:
^^ Do you mean .75 every day or just right now?

I suppose I'll put my 2 cents in.

Benzos are mediocre recreational drugs by themselves. Sure they will get me fucked up, but it's the fucked up feeling I get from alcohol that I don't honestly enjoy that much. I feel like I'm just not with it, and I feel like should some situation arise where I'd need to be in control of myself, I couldn't be. Valium is nice to take the edge off a hangover or whatever, but more than 20 mg and I feel like I just want to lay down and take a nap. They make me uninterested in whatever is going on around me, and they make me boring. By that I mean they make me quiet and slow to respond to what people say or do.

Opiates are the best drugs in the world IMO. There is nothing else that produces such intense euphoria for me. Sure I might feel even better on the most amazing roll or at the peak of the best possible mushroom trip, but that's a different sort of euphoria. Opiates are unconditional love. There's no negative side to using them once and a while at all. True, it's hard to use them only once and a while, but that doesn't have to do with comparing the feelings between them and benzos.

Benzos are useful only in combination with other things I find. I love some valium with my smack, or xanax at the end of the night to pass out. They're godsends after coke or huge amounts of amps. I think smoothing out the rough edges of a stimulant buzz or comedown may be their real strong suit. The various different benzos have different effects, so some are more appropriate for one job than the rest. An example is xanax after the last line of coke. Hits hard, hits fast, and knocks me on my ass, exactly what I'd be looking for at that point. Lorazepam I find to be very much fun with opiates. Valium smooths out the edges of a coke high when you're actually still high.

So benzos are by no means worthless, but they aren't really recreational at all in my experience. In combination they are a useful set of tools, but I can't compare them to opiates whatsoever, opiates are just so good.
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basically i agree with everything you said. i adore opiates and benzos are so-so. unfortunately, i have a benzo 'script but no opiate 'script.

technically i am prescribed 1 mg a day, but i use much less than that (that is, i will go days without using any.) i have never used more than .75 mg in one sitting although maybe more over the course of a day. i am just hoping that it could be more fun. on the other hand, i guess i don't want a benzo addiction...it makes me wonder, though...what makes people get addicted to benzos aside from a serious need to lessen anxiety to function?
 
klonopin is the perfect stimulant comedown drug, combine that with weed and: viola!.......... Xanax used to just knock me out, but i like it more and more all the time. Valium is just the tried-and-true generall anxiety god
 
Okay, I'm weird... Opiates (OC's for me) don't do it at all... They actually make me irritable and really tired. But I love valium, especially with a few whisky's.
 
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