Opioids endone (oxycodone) HR question

[apples]

hey guys, i just acquired two 5mg endone tablets, equalling a total of 10mg oxycodone. i am somewhat opiate-naive (only tried codeine, around 140-170 gets me on a good level). i havent taken codeine in a while though, and even when i did it was only a once or twice a month thing. i just wanted to know if 10mg oxycodone is enough to get me buzzed? or is it too low? i also have some 25mg promethazine tablets lying around. furthermore, should i just crush and swallow the pills or crush and snort? i was thinking of crushing and snorting 1 pill, then crushing and swallowing the other, as i dont really want to put 2 whole pills up my nose...what do you guys think of this?

also, just so i am clear oxycodone = instant release, while oxycontin = extended release right? sorry if the questions are stupid, i have searched up many threads but i just want to double check for the sake of HR

thanks!

 

[woamotive]

oxycodone is oxycodone IR yes. Oxycontin is oxycodone ER, yes (name brand). Check out the conversion thread for dosage information/instruction, so to speak. 10 mg is pretty low, true. However, when I was just starting out taking oxy and other opiates, 5mg (taken a couple times throughout a day) worked just fine. Note, that i am a very small framed female (5'8'', 105'ish lbs). I would just swallow, They are already IR, so you don't need to crush and snort. Oxy lasts longer orally taken. Snorting: kicks in faster, has more of a 'rush' so to speak, but duration is shorter. Thus, dosing again and again is needed to keep the 'high' going.

BUT, search 'oxycodone', search 'endone' and you'll find some more good stuff. Chime in, fellow early risers in the central time zone (5:49am, on a Sunday - whaaaaaat?), and over the sea'ers!

 

[apples]

oxycodone is oxycodone IR yes. Oxycontin is oxycodone ER, yes (name brand). Check out the conversion thread for dosage information/instruction, so to speak. 10 mg is pretty low, true. However, when I was just starting out taking oxy and other opiates, 5mg (taken a couple times throughout a day) worked just fine. Note, that i am a very small framed female (5'8'', 105'ish lbs). I would just swallow, They are already IR, so you don't need to crush and snort. Oxy lasts longer orally taken. Snorting: kicks in faster, has more of a 'rush' so to speak, but duration is shorter. Thus, dosing again and again is needed to keep the 'high' going.

BUT, search 'oxycodone', search 'endone' and you'll find some more good stuff. Chime in, fellow early risers in the central time zone (5:49am, on a Sunday - whaaaaaat?), and over the sea'ers!

thanks for the quick response! yeah iv done a fair bit of reading i just wanted to make sure i knew what i was talking about. im a bit OCD with these things :D i think ill go with snorting 1 and eating one, therefore getting the rush from the snort and a bit of a longer high from eating one? also any opinion on using promethazine to increase the high? or should i just stick to the 10mg oxycodone since its my first time using it?

 

[apples]

giving this bump..anyone want to chime in on using promethazine? dosage recommended for first time?...30 mins pre or after oxy has kicked in..iv read many conflicting things...help a newbie out %)

 

[lorne667]

Snorting half-and swallowing the other half is a bad idea, as it will cause the blood levels to fluctuate too much, even if you time it perfectly. Also, it is absolutely pointless to snort a 5mg oxycodone pill. Not only is the BA substantially lower(meaning you get less of the drug) but even worse, with 5mg oxy's there is a huge amount of filler, in relation to the amount of oxy actually present. Basically, the entire pill has only 5mg of drug, and there is no way your nasal membranes will be able to effectively absorb 5mg out of a pill that probably ways half a gram or so.

Basically, it will be a waste. Just swallow it. Also take 25mg of phenergan(promethazine) or, if you like to nod, 37.5mg. With your low tolerance this should give a nice, sleepy buzz.

(Also, oral BA is 60-87%. This means you will get 6-8.7mg out of the pill. Nasal is 45-70%, so 4.5-7mg, which will probably be less because of the filler. Just saying %) )

 

[apples]

Snorting half-and swallowing the other half is a bad idea, as it will cause the blood levels to fluctuate too much, even if you time it perfectly. Also, it is absolutely pointless to snort a 5mg oxycodone pill. Not only is the BA substantially lower(meaning you get less of the drug) but even worse, with 5mg oxy's there is a huge amount of filler, in relation to the amount of oxy actually present. Basically, the entire pill has only 5mg of drug, and there is no way your nasal membranes will be able to effectively absorb 5mg out of a pill that probably ways half a gram or so.

Basically, it will be a waste. Just swallow it. Also take 25mg of phenergan(promethazine) or, if you like to nod, 37.5mg. With your low tolerance this should give a nice, sleepy buzz.

(Also, oral BA is 60-87%. This means you will get 6-8.7mg out of the pill. Nasal is 45-70%, so 4.5-7mg, which will probably be less because of the filler. Just saying %) )

this is the kind of answer i was after! very informative, thanks for the help ill definitely take your advice and just eat. just one thing, phenergan before or after the oxy, iv read contradicting things....

 

[suessmayr]

I can't agree with the above. But it's a matter of opinion - some people would never swallow oxy's, others would never do anything else. But I think it's pretty uncontroversial that snorting oxy's is more intense, but shorter. If I were you I would swallow one, wait 10-20mins then snort the other, so that they coincide. It is a piss small dose so I would smash them both. I reckon you'll get a buzz. When I was massively addicted to oxy's I scored 10mg IR from a hospital once when I dislocated my shoulder. I railed it and was really chill and happy.

I don't know about the anti-histamines. It would be a shame if they just made you drowsy and pissed off. Anti-histamines are so dirty and gross.

 

[woamotive]

If I'm not mistaken, take it before. But - look at the potentiation thread. I'd totally find it and post it myself, but I gotta go to work .

Just search for it! Go to OD, threads of importance, etc etc.... you'll get there. Or just search it.

*EDIT* - I too wouldn't bother with taking the antihistamine. It's a small dose.. just swallow it for max effect, and that's that!

 

[Venrak]

^Even though it is a small dose, I would still potentiate it with an antihistamine. Logic being why not get the most you can out of the experience?

Swallow both of them 30-40 minutes after taking an antihistamine. In my experience, it can take up to an hour and a half to start feeling it.

 

[lorne667]

I can't agree with the above. But it's a matter of opinion - some people would never swallow oxy's, others would never do anything else. But I think it's pretty uncontroversial that snorting oxy's is more intense, but shorter. If I were you I would swallow one, wait 10-20mins then snort the other, so that they coincide. It is a piss small dose so I would smash them both. I reckon you'll get a buzz. When I was massively addicted to oxy's I scored 10mg IR from a hospital once when I dislocated my shoulder. I railed it and was really chill and happy.

I don't know about the anti-histamines. It would be a shame if they just made you drowsy and pissed off. Anti-histamines are so dirty and gross.

No offense, but that is not level advice. First off, almost everyone takes antihistamines with opiates. Granted, not everyone likes to potentiate the drowsiness with first generation anti-histamines, like myself and many others have/still do, but even if they don't, you'd be a fucking fool to not take an antihistamine of some kind when one of the most prominent adverse effects of opiates/opioids is the histamine release. Seriously, do you enjoy itching, and nausea, or even the rash that can come with chronic intense use? Of course you may be an anomaly(they DO exist! ) but the OP probably isn't.
But anyway, this isn't about bashing what you said, I certainly appreciate your opinion, but you completely fail to recognize the point that trying to snort a 500mg pill that only has 5mg of the active ingredient IS NOT EFFECTIVE!!!

this is the kind of answer i was after! very informative, thanks for the help ill definitely take your advice and just eat. just one thing, phenergan before or after the oxy, iv read contradicting things....

Well I'm sure you've taken them by now, but I would take the phenergan 15-20 minutes before the oxy, for future reference. And if you decide to try snorting, wait until you have a pill with more oxy in it, for example roxi 30's or even 15.

 

[lorne667]

^Even though it is a small dose, I would still potentiate it with an antihistamine. Logic being why not get the most you can out of the experience?

Swallow both of them 30-40 minutes after taking an antihistamine. In my experience, it can take up to an hour and a half to start feeling it.

It's not even just that but 10mg in someone with zero tolerance will have them itching. So a large dose of if you wanna potentiate drowsiness, or a small dose to just relieve the histamine-symptoms>

 

[apples]

thanks for all the responses guys! i ended up putting the pills in my mouth and crushing them...only took 1 bite and they turned into powder! i chugged down some water and yeah i had a relatively empty stomach. i was going to take the anti-histamine, but i have a function to go to in a few hours and didnt wanna risk being too drowsy...anyway i took it around 70 mins ago...was not very intense, but good for first time i think. not nodding or anything, but can def feel it. 20 mins after i popped them, got some nice warm rushes..suprised at the mental effects, very different from codeine. pretty relaxed..not as much as xanax, but still pretty decent. other weird thing: if i move around/do shit, i cant feel it as much..but if i lye down and do nothing..i feel it heaps more. i havent really experienced any nausea, but im just starting to get a bit itchy now, but its barely anything compared to the codeine itch. definitely enjoying this for first time, its a nice even high, not too subtle, but not so intense. if i get my hands on oxy again, ill prob do 15mg oral, then 5mg insufflated once the 15 kicks in if needed...but who knows when ill get it again. thanks people!

 

[redsweater]

my mate once railed about 6 endones... so dumb
but yeah if you are new to oxy 20mg should get you feeling ok, just eat them all if its endone though, cos railing 5mg will not give you any "rush" not that railing oxy really even gives a rush, i just feel less of the bad effects... but then again u get less BA so i guess its a tradeoff.

 

[apples]

my mate once railed about 6 endones... so dumb
but yeah if you are new to oxy 20mg should get you feeling ok, just eat them all if its endone though, cos railing 5mg will not give you any "rush" not that railing oxy really even gives a rush, i just feel less of the bad effects... but then again u get less BA so i guess its a tradeoff.

nah hopefully if i can get my hands on oxycodone again im hoping for some oxycontin 20mgs or 40mgs...i wouldnt consider snorting endone after what you guys have told me

 

[lorne667]

nah hopefully if i can get my hands on oxycodone again im hoping for some oxycontin 20mgs or 40mgs...i wouldnt consider snorting endone after what you guys have told me

"I wouldn't consider snorting endone after what you guys have told me"

Well thank God!!! Seriously though, you'd be amazed at how people don't listen. Yeah, codeine is known for being the itchiest opiate. So if your used to that itch, low dose oxy will be fine. If you do taake 20mg though, I would suggest at least taking a non-drowsy antihistamine, such as Zyrtec(my choice of non- drowsy A-H) as it will help the itching without making you drowsy, though really the phenergan is the best to mix with the oxy,or codeine for that matter. And just so ya know, oxycodone has a relatviely short half-life of 4-6 hours, with peak effects lasting less than that. SO you would have been fine taking the phenergan a few hours before your "function".

Anyway, glad to help, and if you have any questions, just ask!!!

 

[suessmayr]

No offense, but that is not level advice. First off, almost everyone takes antihistamines with opiates. Granted, not everyone likes to potentiate the drowsiness with first generation anti-histamines, like myself and many others have/still do, but even if they don't, you'd be a fucking fool to not take an antihistamine of some kind when one of the most prominent adverse effects of opiates/opioids is the histamine release. Seriously, do you enjoy itching, and nausea, or even the rash that can come with chronic intense use? Of course you may be an anomaly(they DO exist! ) but the OP probably isn't.
But anyway, this isn't about bashing what you said, I certainly appreciate your opinion, but you completely fail to recognize the point that trying to snort a 500mg pill that only has 5mg of the active ingredient IS NOT EFFECTIVE!!!

Either you didn't read or think about my post or you simply misunderstood it. There are loads of anti-histamines that can be taken with opioids to counteract the itchiness that are not sedating. You need to distinguish the sedating type, which you'd use to potentiate the high, from the non-sedating type, which you'd use to treat itchiness. Some people find anti-histamines extremely unpleasant, that is what informed my post.

Secondly, you can't have much experience with oxy's if you're this categorically against railing them. The fact that a 500mg pill has 5mg of the active ingredient is a totally immaterial fact. If you swallowed it, you'd still be swallowing a 500mg pill with a 5mg content. Railing oxy's invariably produces a more intense, qualitatively different, shorter high.

 

[Indyskyechook]

hi people

 

[Indyskyechook]

I take 10 endones,and get a mild buzz,yet have a huge tolerance,my doctor gave me 120 endones for acute pancriatitus, wanted to know how many more can i take without.killing myself im kind of new to endone ,ive been taking alot.of panadene forte for years ??