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Elon Musk reportedly using multiple substances, including ketamine, MDMA, and Adderall

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It seems that Elon Musk's drug use has been discussed on other sections of BL, but can we have EADD's take on the guy?

He has certainly seemed to be becoming more and more 'eccentric', for lack of a better word, over recent months.

With that speech he made a few months ago, where nearly everyone accused him of throwing a Nazi salute to the crowd, it seemed to me that it was just a very clumsy and misjudged gesture of clutching his heart and forcefully punching his love out to the audience. That is also what Musk states was his intention, and I for one believe him. (Nazi salutes do not, and never have been, a gesture or movement that begins at the heart.)

Taken out of proper full context it does somewhat resemble a nazi salute, but I really dont think that was his intention. He continues to talk about this to this day apparently.

Also apparently he didnt recently leave his job within Trump's government, in the 'Department of Government Efficiency' he was forcibly ejected, following him stating in an interview that he doesnt agree with everything Trump says. Which apparently displeased mein Führer Trump. So Musk was out on his ear the very next day.

IIRC, his wealth has declined by 100 billion or so over the last few months. (Partly due to Trump's tarrifs affecting the stock prices of Tesla, but for other reasons too.)

His behaviour is becoming increasing erratic and unpredictable.

I really don't know what to make of it all.

There's videos doing the rounds on youtube, wher Musk admits taking ketamine on prescription for his mood. There's also videos circulating of him looking "wasted" in various settings to do with recent political events.

I'm hardly going to sit here and judge him for taking substances, as obviously that would be immensly hypocritical of me, but it is somewhat concerning where people with immense wealth, power, and influence can seemingly become more and more 'erratic.'

Again for want of a better word. Perhaps he is self medicating. But such people have responsibilities?

Perhaps it is fair to say that such people should be responsible for being the most sane and balanced version of themselves possible. Perhaps that's what he's trying to achieve. God knows tbh.

I'd be interested to hear other Brit's and European's views. Also American's views of course, as I'm sure many will have more background, but then the thread might be deemed not to belong in EADD?

As an EADDer can I request that this thread remains in this subforum, as a kind of European perspective on this powerful and influential man? He'll go down in history for sure. It remains to be seen how history will judge him, and what direction his mental state, drug use, politics, and businesses will go in next.
 
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I can totally see his stack. Makes sense in a kinda twisted silicone valley way… mostly microdosing for sure but apparently with enough ket to blow up his bladder

I finally feel the real feels of a billionaire ❤️

He comes across as the usual over-amped, over-inflated guy we all know… but he is a multibillionnaire. And he has immense power over all of us.

His drug use doesn’t particularly bother me… the fact that it has to happen in the shadows is the problem.

We all know how drugs cloud one’s vision - in every sense of the word. For as long as drug use has to remain in the shadows we have had coked up politicians, junky politicians, alcoholic politicians, politicians on uppers, downers and - apparently - ketamine infusions.

Shit needs to be shown the light so we can have an adult conversation about power and powerful drugs…
 
Musk is being unusually open and honest about his substance use though, it must be said?

I kind of respect him for that. It's a fine art, or balancing act, about not giving a fuck for the judgements and opinions of others.

No denials, no smoke and mirrors. Presumably no legal issues as obviously he can afford to get any Dr to write him any prescription he desires, completely legally.

Although even by California standards a prescription for MDMA would probably be pushing things, but I do believe he is getting ketamine on prescription. It would be no problem at all for him to get an Aderall prescription.. He is neurodivergent - it's more or less confirmed beyond any doubt. So if he is Autistic, as seems very likely, the chances are very high - like 40 - 70%, that he will also have ADHD, or overlapping symptoms. So he'd probably easily be able to get a stimulant prescription. It really does start getting complicated trying to disentangle the 2 things, as so many Autistic symptoms are also ADHD symptoms.

I really don't think we've reached a full understanding of how neurodivergent conditions should be framed and understood. It still seems a long way off to me. But that's another topic altogether.
 
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Watched a doc on him last night, about the ammount of hidden things on tesla s.
Werther true or false, no drug use can sweeten it up.

Love/ loved both 3 substance s, mainly the 1-st two, 3 is medication ime.
But have no tendecy s to hide thing s up. A fetishh for profit, weird guy.
 
'd be interested to hear other Brit's and European's views. Also American's views of course, as I'm sure many will have more background, but then the thread might be deemed not to belong in EADD
Of course, and if you ever find one of your threads has been moved from EADD that you'd like moved back just ask :) (and I'll try not to move your threads without asking to save you the trouble).

I was surprised by all the drug accusations tbh. I mostly attributed his erratic behaviour to being an egotistical ass with a lot of power and money.

I haven't kept super up to date with the news cycle lately so I don't know if his behaviour has significantly changed since his pivot into politics or if he just has more eyes on him as a consequence. Regular ketamine certainly does have a way of turning people peculiar without them necessarily noticing the change in their own behaviour. John C Lilly being the classic example.
 
Yeah, Musk has always been a strange fish but he’s been especially odd throughout his stint in government. So many supercuts of him chewing his face off, thousand yard staring and generally acting the giddy goat clearly off his face :rolleyes:😃

Personally, drug use in and of itself doesn’t really bother me any more than drinking booze or smoking weed would, it’s the obvious excess that concerns me.

Musk is not just using functional stims to get through the day, or KOing himself with benzos to catch some Zs. Man is straight up wasted half the time. He could do a decent job moderating BL at this rate =D

But that should be the extent of his powers given his heavy usage of such a variety of substances. I’m all for expansion of the mind but, come on, time and place matter. It matters a lot.
 
I think he was trying to own the libtards by doing a nazi salute and then teasing them with an "explanation". Even the expression on his face was pure Hitler - didnt look like "sending love" to me.

I think he got the idea from that Adf poster - where two people do seig heils like they are just "forming a roof over a child". They denied it was a seig heil too - but its a dog whistle for the far right.

I wouldnt say he was taking shrooms or E excessively - he looks like a classic speed and downers case to me.
 
I wouldnt say he was taking shrooms or E excessively - he looks like a classic speed and downers case to me.
Apparently he likes all kinds of things but his serious issues are with ketamine. He himself said that he has bladder problems because of it.
 
He will never do it but imagine if he started pushing for across the board legalization of all drugs. Even if he tried to do it behind the scenes he could have tremendous influence. It would basically show that even someone on drugs can achieve success and great things. Unless he’s involved somehow with profiting off the current status quo which would mean he would want drug prohibition to continue since black market profits depend on prohibition inflating the prices and supply.

Remember what happened to DeLorean when he overproduced his overpriced futuristic gull wing door sports car and he was left with thousands of cars assembled but no one purchasing them? He got mixed up with a Federal sting operation involving cocaine, although I believe he wasn’t even a user but who knows for sure.

Elon is much bigger than DeLorean because his cars are electric and because of SpaceX and StarLink but he is in a similar position because of his CyberTruck. I wish someone famous would basically call out the feds on this whole prohibition deal being such a bad deal for so many people.
 
I think Musk is in a much more tenuous position than may seem immediately obvious. Yes he is CEO of multiple businesses… but they all rely heavily on government subsidies.

From memory Tesla alone pulls in $8M per day in handouts and it seems like Daddy Trump is poised to turn off the taps.

No more welfare cheques for Musk… which is more than a little ironic given the DOGE shenanigans…

Trump could - and probably should - put Musk into quite the bit of financial hardship in the nearish future. I’m very far from a Trump fan, but he’d be a fool not to.

But he is a fool so who knows :rolleyes:
 
He will never do it but imagine if he started pushing for across the board legalization of all drugs. Even if he tried to do it behind the scenes he could have tremendous influence. It would basically show that even someone on drugs can achieve success and great things. Unless he’s involved somehow with profiting off the current status quo which would mean he would want drug prohibition to continue since black market profits depend on prohibition inflating the prices and supply.

musk certainly wont call for anything like - during doge he called for drug testing for all govt workers - fired if you test positive. What a no-good hypocritical cunt.
 
I’m all for expansion of the mind but, come on, time and place matter. It matters a lot.
Great quote!

I think that might have been the proper conclusion to my own rambling thoughts on the matter, as it concisely wraps up what I think I was trying to say and get at.

But I couldnt quite wrap things up and put my finger on it, at that point :rolleyes:
 
I'm always a bit dubious of what are at best not very clear allagations.

But what I haven't seen is vigerous legal rebuttals of the claims. One would assume someone who is the CEO of several very large corporations would generally not wish to be seen in that light.

The fact it's been in newspapers across the world does mean that legal experts will have checked the copy to ensure litigation would fail.

As I understand it, the bladder damage caused by K is irreversible. But was he nipping for a pee or for a line?
 
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