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shaneyyy

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I'm just after some formal information comparing the two after consuming these substances and also the comedowns between the two.
I'm asking this because I havn't ever really tried X properly to have a fair verdict between the two. So please ignore this if this isn't true. But compared between the two I found X is more of a floaty, lovely dovey, experience with the perception of time tending to go quite slow. Whereas mephedrone you still get the feeling yet alot more stimmy and alert. Mind the dosage of the two varied massively and used to take alot of mephedrone.
The reason I'm asking this is becuase, financially X would be more economic for me. But the most important factor between the two is which out of the two suffers less of a come down and basically allows you to function properly during day to day activities. I do understand that there isn't much to tell from Mephedrone it being a relatively new RC to the scene. But hopefully some of you guys on the forums could give us a pointer and a fair verdict of what I should opt in for.

Based on Experience and comedowns. (long term effects)
 
I guess when your referring to X you mean MDMA/MDA. MDMA is something you should only do about every month or so and you should not get to a point to where it would inhibit your ability to function in day to day activities. Same thing with Mephedrone although you have a easier chance to abuse it because it's more prevalent than real X
 
Not sure I really understand your question completely, but I've noticed that when I space out my usage evenly enough then I don't really notice much of a come down from either substances. But, I'm sure while more people that I know of binge on Mephedrone that the come down would most likely be more noticeable leading you back to wanting more of that first high that you got.
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3246659

Interestingly, that study suggests its just as serotonergic as MDMA, yet increasingly dopaminergic. That probably explains why Methedrone is very rushy & euphoric and slightly less loving/empathetic than MDMA. Regarding comedowns, there's a clear winner in my book - MDMA. The increase in Dopamine would, combined with high Serotonin release, increase neurotoxicity a lot. Also, mephedrone exhibits a lot higher potential for both abuse and addiction. Often addiction occurs through Dopamine networks in the Nucleus Accumbens, as this area of the brain is very responsible for reward and motivation. Whereas the study showed that MDMA does not really affect these networks (hence why it is not viewed as addictive), Methedrone does cause deficits in dopamine in the nucleus accumbens. This means it has potential for addiction if you used it a lot. Further, because it has dopaminergic actions, you could probably use it more often than MDMA and still enjoy good effects further increasing the potential for abuse.

Tbh, the neuropsychopharmocology suggests that it is similar to an MDMA/Amp combination. I'd imagine the rush is amazing and greater than MDMA alone, but would take away from the meaningful aspects of MDMA, such as the love & empathy.

All in all, I'd probably stick to MDMA because it appears safer. However, the MKAT high does look really good as I, personally, enjoy the energy and stimulation of MDMA which sometimes is not there at a heavy peak.
 
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From the linked article above

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MDMA should really never be used more than say 1 time every 1-2 months, and optimal six month breaks are best recommended to keep the 'magic' and keep the 'comedowns' to a minimum.
Mephedrone does not have the 'push' or strong feelings of empathy or the tactile feelings as MDMA, but IMO could be used on a more frequent basis without the negative effects vs. if you used MDMA the same amt.
it's a give and take, but neither should be taken frequently and if they are taken frequently, won't be without a few negative effects.
 
Tbh I have no idea why anyone even takes mephedrone after seeing all the stuff about peoples hands, feet, and limbs turning purple or blue. Sorry but no high is worth that imo, I wouldn't even take that garbage if someone paid me to. If I were you I'd do mdma maybe 4 times a year and find something else to do. All stimulants are rough on the heart but that mephedrone crap seems to be by far the worst for it.
 
4evrLkn said:
MDMA should really never be used more than say 1 time every 1-2 months, and optimal six month breaks are best recommended to keep the 'magic' and keep the 'comedowns' to a minimum.
Mephedrone does not have the 'push' or strong feelings of empathy or the tactile feelings as MDMA, but IMO could be used on a more frequent basis without the negative effects vs. if you used MDMA the same amt.
it's a give and take, but neither should be taken frequently and if they are taken frequently, won't be without a few negative effects.
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The article I posted suggests otherwise. Methedrone is just as serotonergic as even high dose MDMA (3mg/kg), at the peak, while also acting on Dopamine similarly to amphetamines. Thus, if serotonin is the root cause for empathy/tactile sensation, methedrone should produce similar effects. However, the dopamine push with methedrone could 'cloud' the empathy/love. Further, the underpinning mechanisms of MDMA are not directly clear so perhaps the 'magical' MDMA effects are other neurological mechanisms, combined with or as a result of 5-HT release. The oxytocin/prolactin response springs to mind but no idea why they would differ between the two drugs.

By the looks of the graphs, methedrone rockets your 5-HT up then drops you back on your ass an hour later, whereas MDMA is a smooth ride back to sobriety. According to the science, methedrone couldn't, and shouldn't, be used more than MDMA. Its effects on serotonin are the same, combined with dopamine to cause even more negative effects.
 
From personal experience I think MDMA is by far and away a better and cleaner drug! I love the stuff but I do take Meph on a more regular basis just because it is more widely available and I limit my MD intake to once every two months. Good meph is fucking quality though, especially for the price.
 
Yes, I never really enjoyed mephedrone at ALL, but the comedown was much easier on my body, mind, etc....
That's why I would feel it would be easier to take more often. It makes you feel more 'dirty' while on it, and while coming down. As IMO mdma is a better, (smoother) high, and comedown, but feels more draining. Those are my experiences, mdma is a MUCH better drug!!!! Just have to space it out much more to get the same effect....
 
Never tried mephodrone.. but there's no way it's as good as mdma.. MDMA is the shit bro, just space your rolls a ton
The new RCs really give chemicals a much crappier name than they deserve

I know a girl who did "benzofury" or whatever (some RC crap) and she dont want to test MDMA now cuz she thinks its gonna be the same..
So stupid
 
Exstazy said:
Never tried mephodrone.. but there's no way it's as good as mdma.. MDMA is the shit bro, just space your rolls a ton
The new RCs really give chemicals a much crappier name than they deserve

I know a girl who did "benzofury" or whatever (some RC crap) and she dont want to test MDMA now cuz she thinks its gonna be the same..
So stupid
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Haha Mephedrone and "benzofury" are lightyears apart. Some people actually PREFER Mephedrone, I don't put myself in that catergory but I'd say it's as high as 10% of users. Mephedrone is one of the few MDMA replica's that is in the same ball park as MDMA. For me as is MDAI and Methylone. But ones like benzofury or whatever other random brand name RC's are normally the ones to stay away from. A name like Benzofury just screams BZP related which is the original shitty MDMA replica and the most common piperazine, if my first ecstasy experience had've been with bzp I probably wouldn't want to try E again, if my first had been with Meph, Methylone or MDAI I most certainly would.
 
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