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Ecstasy vs MDMA (MERGED)

great, thnx and will check on that

So, the person who sells me the pills and the bags of mdma. R they basically the same?
 
Theoretically a pill being sold as "ecstasy" should ONLY contain the active chemical mdma. There are a lot of pills out there that are "cut" with other substances though. Some common adulterants are dxm, caffeine, speed, meth...etc. The issues with legality prevent every chemist from making only pure product, since the drug isn't regulated and they only want ot make a quick buck (this goes for the dealer as well).

It's important to purchase a testing kit so that you can get a better idea of what you are purchasing. One can be obtained from http://www.eztest.com/web/index.php (bluelighters get a discount :))

www.pillreports.com is also an excellent tool to see what types of pills are floating around your area. I personally think that you should never assume that the pill you see on pillreports is your exact pill that came from the same batch. Your pill could be a copycat that was made from some other substance. Pillreports should be used as a guide.
 
MazDan said:
Actually Simon makes a very important point that i think a lot of people forget and that is that just because you have powder or "molly", doesnt mean its any more pure than if it had been a pill.

I think it is one of the great myths that "molly" is somehow going to magically be pure mdma.
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So, i get the mdma in powder. There is a big chance that this also contains other aditives as the pill?
 
Extremely plausible.

In fact I think that it's easier to cut a substance being sold as a powder than a substance being sold as a pill. If you think about it, the chemist is the only person able to cut a pill, but a powder can be cut at the chemist level as well as the dealer level (who wants to increase the amount of "product" he/she has to sell)
 
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So, i get the mdma in powder. There is a big chance that this also contains other aditives as the pill?
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I wouldn't want to speculate on the exact probability, but it's certainly possible.

That's why we really recommend testing your pills (or powder).

I agree with purplefirefly that 15 times in a few months is quite high usage; and that it's quite possible that you're building up a tolerance. The best advice I ever got in relation to ecstasy was that less is more :) (I ignored it, but I wish I'd listened).
 
I don't believe that ecstasy and MDMA are the same thing. I believe Ectascy is a name for a pill that fucks you up. It's any coloured pill with a logo intended to get you high like the high you get from MDMA+meth or speed. Not always the case though. There is pures on the market, but these are usually in capsule form. These aren't speedy. Most people around here who I know: like the 'dirites' which are the ones cut with meth. Often times you can see white speckles (chunks of crystal meth) in the dirties. Recently, there has been speculation of pcp and 2c-i/2c-b going into pills around here.

Yet it continues to sell.

I like my pures though.
 
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No, no no no no no.

Ecstasy IS MDMA.

However, people sell pills containing any old crap, and call it ecstasy, because there's no quality control for an illegal drug.

That doesn't mean that the crap that they call ecstasy is really ecstasy. If I make a cheap ripoff of a Rolex, and call it a Rolex, and sell it to you as a Rolex - it's still not a Rolex. And crap pills aren't ecstasy.
 
what i was tryin to say that the definition of xtc has changed since people started cutting it to shit with meth, caffeine, dxm and other adulterants.
 
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Yeah, I mean I take your point that many pills contain something other than MDMA. No argument there.

But I don't think it's right to argue that 'ecstasy' now means something other than MDMA. I certainly hope we never reach a point where the majority think of 'ecstasy' as meaning 'whatever crap comes in my pill'.
 
xtc -> a drug cocktail sometimes containing more MDMA than meth/adulterants
 
Sim0n said:
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Yeah, I mean I take your point that many pills contain something other than MDMA. No argument there.

But I don't think it's right to argue that 'ecstasy' now means something other than MDMA. I certainly hope we never reach a point where the majority think of 'ecstasy' as meaning 'whatever crap comes in my pill'.
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LMAO
 
everyone knows that ecstasy is just a combo of speed, heroin, and coke. 8)

whats this MDMA shit you're talking about i have a friend that makes this shit, i watch him do it. It's no fucking compound, its a mixture.

(please dont take this seriously)
 
SoLiDo said:
xtc -> a drug cocktail sometimes containing more MDMA than meth/adulterants
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So "xtc" isn't just a bad abbreviation for etards? It's a separate substance entirely? 8)

"Ecstasy" is slang for MDMA. Your MDMA/Ecstasy can be cut with any number of things - no matter what form you get it in, powder or pills. Shit, I bet a lot of powder sold is really just crushed up pills anyway. Color isn't a reliable way to tell purity either as that can be manipulated as well.

If you have pure MDMA powder you can measure out a specific dose. If you have a "pure" MDMA pill, you can't really tell how much is there, just that it's real. That's one reason why you might have a better experience with powder than a pill. Not because it's better/worse, but because you took the right amount. You could have the same experience with 3.71 of those pills, but it's pretty tough to determine that beforehand.

I vote we lock this shit down.
 
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