Ecstasy vs MDMA (MERGED)

[seanie719]

I am able to get pure MDMA and I was just wondering how it was compared to ecstasy. I have taken ecstasy plenty of times before but I just want to know if there is a big difference between the two from people who have done both. Thanks

 

[MazDan]

Ecstasy = mdma.
Mdma = Ecstasy.

Maybe you mean one is in pill form and one is in powder form?

If that is the case then assuming your pill has nothing but mdma and binders and maybe some colouring and your powder is pure..........and the quanitity of mdma is similar in both..........then your experience will be identical not taking into account methods of administration.

 

[Infinite Jest]

^
Yep.

When you buy a pill that is sold as 'ecstasy' you should be getting nothing but MDMA (plus some binders to hold it together). So an MDMA pill should feel the same as MDMA powder.

Because MDMA is illegal, your pills could have a number of different substances in them: see ecstasydata.org for an idea of what these substances might be. Pills do often contain MDMA, though.

You really (really!) need to get a test kit (eztest.com). That would tell you what's in your pills, and also whether the powder you have is really MDMA. That way, you could research what the effects are likely to be

 

[MazDan]

Actually Simon makes a very important point that i think a lot of people forget and that is that just because you have powder or "molly", doesnt mean its any more pure than if it had been a pill.

I think it is one of the great myths that "molly" is somehow going to magically be pure mdma.

 

[fatallyflawed]

plus i feel that 'molly' can be a different kinda high!

i like some of the 'mixes u can get out of a pill (maybe a little meth for some eye wiggles) however 'molly is supposed to be just MDMA, and to my understanding not MDA (my fav of the family)

 

[purplefirefly]

^^

Pure mdma definitely has the ability to produce eye wiggles as well.

Once I tried pure mdma it was unlike any pill I had ever taken before. I think all of the pills I had ever taken were cut with some sort of speedy substance.

Testing is extremely important! Just because something comes in a powder rather than a pill doesn't mean that it can't be cut.

Please be safe

 

[vancbc]

You asked a really great question. In an ideal world Ecstasy = MDMA, but practically speaking that is not often the experience of the average user purchasing at the street level.

MDMA is a mellow, chilled out and euphoric experience. It feels clean and innocent. It's a feeling of tranquility and peace and a feeling of blissful love and empathy. Clean MDMA is so smooth that you often don't know when you're not high anymore; you slowly coast back to baseline and are left tired but with a warm afterglow.

 

[fidel incognito]

^^ couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[delta_9]

People forget molly can be just as impure as a pill can be. Ideally, their the same thing, but unfortunately, considering the times we live and the people we live with, ecstacy has now become notoriously impure. I really can't say which is the better choice, since either could be bunk.

 

[ByS8@P]

The real MDMA comes in a capside, like the ''metamucil'' enveloppe. It cost much more than the regular powder pills to produce. If you break those, it looks like jelly and has a brown color, because pure MDMA is a dark black consistent shit like grease. They generally come from Europe, Amsterdam. Powder pills were introduced because of the price to produce, and because you can put anything inside after a nice mixing. I've even seen people putting ephidrine inside. However, the most popular cut is metamphetamines. The only real, easy and fast test you can have is that MDMA and MD2 takes less than half an hour to make effect. Other stuff takes about an hour. Watch the lights around yourself, and ask your girlfriend to toutch your amr skin often...you should know when it goes on!!!

 

[Infinite Jest]

The real MDMA comes in a capside, like the ''metamucil'' enveloppe. It cost much more than the regular powder pills to produce.

Sorry, but this is pretty much nonsense. Real MDMA can be found in powder form, pill form (or indeed capsule form).

Plenty of pills contain pure MDMA and nothing else (other than binder, which doesn't affect the feeling anyway). I was getting my pills lab-tested, and they were pure MDMA. Ecstasydata.org shows plenty of pills that contained nothing but MDMA. Of course, there are many pills that contain other substances as well, or instead of MDMA.

It is NOT expensive to produce pills containing MDMA (pills in England cost about $2-3 at the moment).

 

[xxdanktankxx]

yeah ecstasy is mdma, and mdma is ecstasy.. its like weed is marijuana, and marijuana is weed.

 

[delta_9]

The real MDMA comes in a capside, like the ''metamucil'' enveloppe. It cost much more than the regular powder pills to produce. If you break those, it looks like jelly and has a brown color, because pure MDMA is a dark black consistent shit like grease. They generally come from Europe, Amsterdam. Powder pills were introduced because of the price to produce, and because you can put anything inside after a nice mixing. I've even seen people putting ephidrine inside. However, the most popular cut is metamphetamines. The only real, easy and fast test you can have is that MDMA and MD2 takes less than half an hour to make effect. Other stuff takes about an hour. Watch the lights around yourself, and ask your girlfriend to toutch your amr skin often...you should know when it goes on!!!

This is all complete bullshit. MDMA does NOT have a dark color, and can be produced anywhere, not just europe and amsterdam. All it takes is a chemist. Caffeine is the most popular cut in my experience, NOT meth. I rarely see pills with meth. Also, powder pills can be sometimes more expensive to produce than molly. The dose of MDMA is usually the same(~100mg), and since most pressed pills wiegh at least .3g, that means the rest of the weigh is made up of binders, fillers, and cut.

 

[ByS8@P]

I won't really go further, but just for info, powder pills needs other stuff than MDMA to size them and strenghten them when they go in the press, the perfect reason to put anything you want in it. MDMA is not powder, lol...What you probably seen was Ephydrine Hydrochloride(speed) in white powder, or your dealer had a batch of broked E and tryed to sell it to ya either. The material to produce the gelly pills cost much more(machinery), also because you have to buy the capside instead of producing it from nothing, like for powder pills. And when you only produce E, you dont want to have to explain yourself to the company why you bought half a million or much capside for your personal use... Also, the first MDMA pills that were introduced were gelly ones, NOT FROM US, and what i meant was that in the US, people don't waste their time making gelly ones. They all go by weight, so...
I never heard about cafeine in MDMA pills. However, it can be true because i've seen so many stupid stuff in those powder pills. Although far from being the best stuff...
If you want to believe other shit, please be my guess, i really dont care,lol.

 

[ByS8@P]

Ho, and i forgot. Much of the stuff to produce the MDMA is restricted or illegal in the US. Which make it much easyer to produce in Europe because a lot aren't. Even a Ph.D. in Chemist would have hard time producing it here, because of the material. You really need to have some way to have them, and complicated molecules aren't easy to synthetise...i can't go further i think....

 

[bfisher]

imo and where im from, ecstasy = speed/meth basically...


a clean pill is very rare, and even the 'clean' ones are never clean like molly will be.

 

[a23dsl]

im sorry. i feel bad for you. bring a test kit with you to your dealer and ask him if you can test them before you buy them. Expose him for the crappy liar he is, and protest buying meth-bombs being called ecstasy.


it isnt right.

Poor dealers. They can be friends too! :D

 

[TheDEA.org]

The real MDMA comes in a capside,

Most pressed pills are MDMA-only (perhaps 60-90% of the supply, depending on where you live.)

If you break those, it looks like jelly and has a brown color, because pure MDMA is a dark black consistent shit like grease.

Pure MDMA is either gleaming white (acid salt form) or a light clear oil (if freebase.)

The only real, easy and fast test you can have is that MDMA and MD2 takes less than half an hour to make effect.

It's common for real MDMA to take 40+ minutes to kick in. God knows I've done enough trial runs.

MDMA is not powder, lol

MDMA hydrochloride (the form it's pretty much always sold in) is a powder. Nobody sells freebase (hard to handle and it's all the same once it hits your stomach.)

...What you probably seen was Ephydrine Hydrochloride(speed)

'Speed' is amphetamine, not ephedrine.

The material to produce the gelly pills cost much more(machinery),

Small-volume gel-capping devices are very cheap. An automated pill press is an expensive item (thousands of dollars at the low end.) Gel-caps are the mark of a small/poor operation, not sophistication.

Also, the first MDMA pills that were introduced were gelly ones

Oh? Please tell us more about these pills and what your source of information is. The first 'ecstasy' (the manufacturer in question being the first to call it that) was a communion-style 'wafer' tablet (relatively large and flat compared to modern pills) sold in the US, although MDMA itself had been around for longer.

I never heard about cafeine in MDMA pills.

Caffeine is one of the most common adulterants.


(And now I wait patiently to be told how wrong and ignorant I am....)

 

[MazDan]

(And now I wait patiently to be told how wrong and ignorant I am....)

lol, Could be interesting........lol.

Nope your right on all counts mate...........and thanks for clearing it all up.

Just on the first one..........in Australia unfortunately its probably not as high as that.........I would estimate that maybe only 50% are only mdma........as an active ingredient.


The other point that probably needs making here once again is that just because its in a capsule or even just as a powder.........doesnt mean its any more pure than a pill is likely to be...........who knows what has been cut into it.

 

[jaffna]

the extcy u buy n pills on the street may not even contain mdma or mda. it usually contalin other stuff most often crank, which mimics x.

pure x is un altered mdma or mda'

the pure x is a way better feeling and is safer to take in correct dose.


iv done both alto and there is a big difference.