Back when I was playing in bands and hitting up the clubs back in the mid-2000s every now and then someone would give me some ecstasy pills. And all the times that I had access to ecstasy pills, I've only taken it about four or five times. Right now I've got four pink Playboy bunnies from around 2004 to 2006. Is there anything I should be aware of as far as ecstasy pills from the mid-2000s compared to the pills you get today? Is there a website that goes into detail? Does anybody know the common cuts that ecstasy pills were cut worth in the mid 2000 compared to what they're being caught with today? I know that nearly all the E pills you get today are full of all kinds of crap. Was it the same back in the mid 2000? All I know is, that back then the pink Playboy bunnies were real popular in the clubs. From what I remember, the few that I took, just like the name of the pill, it feels like ecstasy. Don't ever remember having much of a come down. Back then, I didn't take a whole lot of ecstasy just because I didn't like how it affected my drumming when I was playing. I probably drowned like normal and listening to recordings it sounded normal but I always felt like I was playing a bit sloppy. I know what to do for a cocaine Comedown, but what should you do for an ecstasy Comedown? Back then I also had access 2 cocaine. Always did it more for the fun of it than anything else. I enjoy the teeth and tongue and back of your throat getting numb. Never really experienced a come down but I always kept a couple Xanax with me just in case. Same thing as the four ecstasy pills I have now, I've also got quite a bit of cocaine from back in the mid-2000s that I would get and then never do it all and always end up coming home with some. It's fun to do two or three lines once a month or so.
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Ecstasy pink bunny pill from mid 2000s, compared to ecstasy pills from today
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Le Junk
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Not sure if youve done modern day MDMA or not, but todays MDMA is horrible. MDMA production methods changed dramatically around 2009-2010. If what you have is legitimate MDMA from the mid-2000s, you have something very special there my friend. Unlike todays non-lovey dovey, non-euphoric, non-sexual, non conversational and horrific comedown MDMA, you will experience all the opposite effects from the pre-2009 MDMA you have right there. You may still want to get a 4 step testing kit from Dancesafe just to be safe though. Have fun!
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^ dude i don't know why you think all mdma of today is shit. MDMA is still being made the exact same ways it was made in 2000, there are just new routes which are producing shitty mdma. But trust me there is that amazing shit still out there. plus we have all the RC empathogens which i wish were more available to be honest (seemed to be more available a few years ago) because some of them are more impressive than mdma. Its a good time to be a drugee all things considered.
I'll wouldn't trade todays RC scene for the 90s where MDMA and acid were about your only choices. But there does seem to be a bunch of that shit MDMA around from what some of you say, I've never encountered anything that didn't make me roll and fully dialate my eyes. Sure Ive had stuff that wasn't as smooth or good, but nothing as horrible as what you all complain about.
I'll wouldn't trade todays RC scene for the 90s where MDMA and acid were about your only choices. But there does seem to be a bunch of that shit MDMA around from what some of you say, I've never encountered anything that didn't make me roll and fully dialate my eyes. Sure Ive had stuff that wasn't as smooth or good, but nothing as horrible as what you all complain about.
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Yes, much of today's "MDMA" is non lovey-dovey, non-euphoric, non-sexual, non-conversational and it doesn't cause full Mydriasis and can deceive basic professional lab analytic techniques (there are 23 different MDMA-like substances with the same molecular mass of 193g/mol) ...however good old 3,4-MDMA is still being manufactured occasionally.
There is an entire thread devoted to this. See here and here.
There is an entire thread devoted to this. See here and here.
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I've gotta agree with Lucid, let us not forget that while many people complain these days it's not the situation for EVERYONE. It's all these mass generalizations that cause this debate problems.
With that said I'd highly suggest you look over the threads glubra linked lotus. One of those pills could be of use for our research but I'd understand if you just wanted to dose it lol. Someone like Glubra could analyze it a bit in comparison to the stuff these days.
Or you can send me one and I can "professionally bioassay the product"
hehe.
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With that said I'd highly suggest you look over the threads glubra linked lotus. One of those pills could be of use for our research but I'd understand if you just wanted to dose it lol. Someone like Glubra could analyze it a bit in comparison to the stuff these days.
Or you can send me one and I can "professionally bioassay the product"
hehe.-GC
I haven't done modern MDMA. All I've done are for pink Playboy bunnies between 2005 and 2006. When you guys talk about MDMA are you talking about the ecstasy pill or the crystals that you see a lot in the club these days that are in a clear capsule that you can Pull-A-Part and snort the capsules or is it all the same stuff just in different appearance? The four pink bunnies that I have now are the thicker round pills, I think they have a certain name for the thicker pills. The four I have I got between 2005 and 2006 in the Houston area. My best friend now, used to do ecstasy pills from time to time when she would be at the clubs in Wisconsin back in the mid-2000s. she also remembers the pink Playboy bunnies and said those were her Ecstasy of choice because of how good they were and also remembers that they were a little bit more expensive then the average ecstasy pills. The 4 times I took ecstasy back in the day and the four pills I have now were all gotten between 2005 and 2006, in the Houston area. My best friend, got most of her ecstasy either in Milwaukie or Chicago. Back in the mid-2000s, was it common for ecstasy pills bought in Chicago to be pretty much the same pills bought in the Houston area? Or did quality vary by location like it does with cocaine? Is it possible that the pink bunnies she took, could have been made bye the same person/lab as the pink bunnies that I have, or were multiple people / labs making pills that look the same but contained different amounts of MDMA and other crap?
What I remember from the four pink bunnies that I took back in the day was that they were crazy awesome euphoric. Better than any cocaine I have ever done. And I never experienced they bad come down people talk about. I've never experienced any bad depression or anxiety like you here being reported a lot these days. Doing some searches online about the pink bunnies, I've found reports from the mid-2000s where the person was reporting that they were very good with not much of a harsh come down. In fact, I don't know how common of An Occurrence this is but my best friend knew a girl back in the mid-2000s that used to take a lot of ecstasy several days a week. And now she says that that girl has lots of psychological issues and depression and memory issues. Pretty much she's not the same person today psychologically / emotionally as she was in her early twenties. My friend said doctors tell her that it's more than likely do to the amount of ecstasy she took when she was in her early to mid-20s. I'd love to try one of these pink bunny is that I have just for the fun of it but after knowing what I know now about the side effects of ecstasy, I'm a bit hesitant. With all the reports you hear of nowadays of ecstasy containing chemicals like rat poison and drain cleaner among other crap. Not sure if ecstasy was like that back in 2005 or not.
Le Junk
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Yes, there were copycat pills of course. If something came out that was really good, the copycats would soon follow. The biggest problem back in the mid-2000's was meth bombs. MDMA mixed with meth for whatever fucking reason. Idiots. Anyway, all of the answers to your questions could be solved with a 4 step Dancesafe testing kit. You just slice off a teeny tiny little sliver from one of the pills and smash the sliver into a fine powder and divide it into 4 little piles for testing. It's well worth your $50 investment for the test kit. And yes, the pills were sometimes regionally located, though most seemed to make their way around the entire country. Let us know the results of your test kit and trip report. Post on Pillreports about your experience as well, but make sure you state the pills are from a better time in the past 
I think the mid 2000's were a particularly dodgy period for ecstasy pills tbh. It would be wise to test the pills you have if you can.
On ecstasydata we can see by the year table graph how few pills tested positive for MDMA only.
https://www.ecstasydata.org/stats.php?style=number&datetype=testingdate&source=&sold_as_ecstasy=both
The years 2004 & 2005 stand out as a very bad years, in 2005 136 pills were sent in to ecstasydata, and 39 tested as MDMA only.
If we take that as an average and multiply it by 10 that would mean roughly for the year 2005 if 1360 pills were sent in, only 390 would contain MDMA only,
Not sure what that is percentage wise around 25%
2004 I think works out even worse at something like 10% :/
Although there maybe an issue with some of the MDMA being produced today, so far for the year 2018 - 126 pills have been sent to the lab and nearly 100 tested positive for MDMA only.
That's unheard of.
On ecstasydata we can see by the year table graph how few pills tested positive for MDMA only.
https://www.ecstasydata.org/stats.php?style=number&datetype=testingdate&source=&sold_as_ecstasy=both
The years 2004 & 2005 stand out as a very bad years, in 2005 136 pills were sent in to ecstasydata, and 39 tested as MDMA only.
If we take that as an average and multiply it by 10 that would mean roughly for the year 2005 if 1360 pills were sent in, only 390 would contain MDMA only,
Not sure what that is percentage wise around 25%
2004 I think works out even worse at something like 10% :/
Although there maybe an issue with some of the MDMA being produced today, so far for the year 2018 - 126 pills have been sent to the lab and nearly 100 tested positive for MDMA only.
That's unheard of.
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Le Junk
Bluelighter
This may be true, but the quality of the MDMA back in 2004-2005 was far far superior to the newly synthd MDMA of today.
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I think I got the percentages wrong there. lol I think it's more like 25% in 2005 instead of 10%
My feeling is some of the MDMA back in the day was more superior than some of the MDMA being made today, rather than being far more superior across the board.
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Le Junk
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Yes, Im talking about the HUGE difference in safrole MDMA vs pmk MDMA. With the fact that most of todays lab tested MDMA is non-lovey dovey, non-sexual, non-euphoric, harsh comedown and nasty next day compared to the exact opposite effects of old school MDMA, no it?s definitely not the same. And besides the lacking positive effects of today?s MDMA, one huge thing visibly delete...fully dilated pupils. Old school MDMA would dilate your pupils all the way to the very edge leaving little to no color left. Today?s crappy MDMA doesn?t dilate the pupils much if any at all. And that is undeniable no matter what the dose. Most of today?s MDMA sucks. That?s a fact.
I've had PMK MDMA and safroil MDMA (likely cut with inactive cut) and the only difference maybe was the dose... The PMK MDMA is fine... 90 mg followed by 45 mg was really good.... I even tried 20 mg followed by 40 mg iv, which literally after the minor tinnitus I layed down listening to music enjoying laying with my dog next to me in bliss.... I don't know what your'e taking about the pmk stuff lacking. Maybe you got garbage? Which I can't believe you would get
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There are many variables with the synthesis that play a part in the quality and magic concerning MDMA. The quality, availability and purity of the precursors used is a major factor. Another major factor is the chemist, someone who is a true connoisseur of MDxx and also has the skills to produce a product that has the MAGIC.
I think a lot of what happens nowadays is large scale production MDMA is in it for the money. Unfortunately that means most of the chemists are probably following recipes that have been passed down that are based on quantity not quality, precursors are not as easy to come by and quality and purity can have issues. They are money connoisseurs and not true MDMA connoisseurs.
I think a lot of what happens nowadays is large scale production MDMA is in it for the money. Unfortunately that means most of the chemists are probably following recipes that have been passed down that are based on quantity not quality, precursors are not as easy to come by and quality and purity can have issues. They are money connoisseurs and not true MDMA connoisseurs.