Ecstasy - first time (windmills?)

[xjessx54321]

So i decided i was going to try some pills..i got ten to take next weekend because im meant to be going to a rave (also first time) but my mate convinced me to give them a try last night..which probably wasnt the best idea on a sunday night when id have to spend the majority of it alone lol.

Tried half a pill while i was at hers..these were called windmills i think and werent supposed to be that good (which obviously i heard after id bought them) so i thought id be ok just to try some and get a feel of what it would be like...wouldnt be much fun stuck at a rave for 7 hours feeling shit and not liking it and plus i was curious..i honestly didnt think anything/much would happen.

Well nothing much happened after an hour or taking half..i felt 'different' but not really that noticable so i took the other half at around 10pm..started coming up about 20mins later and for the first 10-15mins didnt like it at all. I expected it to come on gradually but it hit me all of a sudden and really intense. We were just layed on her bed listenin to some music and talking and i got like a massive headrush..stood up started panicking quite a bit coz it was just really intense and almost too much. Felt really hot in my head and chest and really dizzy..went an sat outside for a few mins and then it passed and i felt really really nice..was just sat on the back doorstep talking and remember the cold air felt really nice on my skin..was shivering like fuck but it was nice.

After that we went back upstairs and i was just layed on her bed again..i expected to feel full of energy but it wasnt like that..i felt really relaxed but wide awake at the same time..i think contents probably a better word. But yeah we were chatting for an hour or so..she hadnt had any she just had some weed so it was like her chilled out nodding her head...me literally not stopping talking and chatting shit lol..i still felt quite hot but not like when it started i didnt feel worried about it i felt the most relaxed i have in ages..just really happy about everything in my life dont think anything could have brought me down.

So i left at around 12 as she had work in the morning (id got the day off).had a very interesting walk home lol..everything just looked and felt better and even tho it felt really intense i didnt feel ill at all..i think when id be coming up id panicked coz it was just too much and i was like fuck ive got this for the next 4 hours or so and cant handle it..but like i said that only lasted about 10mins.

Sat in my garden when i got back..my parents are away at the moment so just me an my brother. went and got him out of bed coz wanted someone to talk to..hes done pills before so he was actually really good with me about it. we went an sat outside..had an extremely deep convo..he took me inside coz i was shivering really bad. got me some water.had that then ended up sat chewing the straw lol so he got me some chewing gum..was that airwaves stuff and felt about 100x as strong as usual but really nice. i got into bed around half 1. put some music on and just layed there chilled out with big smile on my face feeling really good and not even really botherd that i was on my own by then..started seeing flashes out the corner of my eye and when i closed my eyes id kept getting images of stuff..which was ok at first until i started getting really fucked up images and freaked out abit lol..but then started laughing to myself at how stupid it was and felt ok again.

The rest of the night wasnt that great..i wouldnt say ifelt really really bad but i just wanted to go to sleep by about three but couldnt..felt really hot again and like my chest was burning and my head. all my muscles really ached like when youve been exercising and it kills the next day. had plenty of water tho but sipped it and put some salt in it (id heard that was supposed to stop the thing when your brain swells etc?). wouldnt say i felt relaxed anymore after anyway was either realy hot or freezing and literally soaked my top through was sweating that bad..felt quite agitated but still ive felt worse from drinking to be honest so it wasnt that bad.

Anyway i didnt get off to sleep and its half 7am here at the moment but im feeling ok now..i still feel a bit weird but not ill..my pupils have gone tiny! lol i remember looking at myself in the mirror last night and my eyes looked black..and i have bright blue eyes so it looked really weird and i actually scared myself looking at myself lol coz i looked possessed. Well sorry this is so long anyway like i said i still feel abit ..different so hope this all makes sense. I was really suprised though with the effects..the pills were more trippy than speedy..but maybe that was my environment..if id been out somewhere might have been different? Anyone else tried these pills? They're white with like a swirl on them (that looks like a windmill..hence the name lol). But im trying them again next saturday anyway and ill be out so might be abit different..i really cant imagine wanting to/being able to dance for about 6hrs on these pills though.

 

[xjessx54321]

Yep im from the north east too and these pills are all my mates seem to be able to get hold of at the moment. One of my friends tried 1 last week and said it didnt do anything at all...well. worked for me lol. but yeah like u said dosent mean they had the same stuff in them. Nice that i didnt really get a come down though..just wore off gradually..my muscles are aching like fuck now and still got chills but otherwise i dont feel down or anything. feelin pretty happy

 

[B9]

Chills? I would hazard a guess at some kind of stimulant + MDMA ! But as I said it is a guess!
MDMA makes me feel warm !

 

[Rated E]

I was really suprised though with the effects..the pills were more trippy than speedy..but maybe that was my environment..if id been out somewhere might have been different? Anyone else tried these pills? They're white with like a swirl on them (that looks like a windmill..hence the name lol). But im trying them again next saturday anyway and ill be out so might be abit different..i really cant imagine wanting to/being able to dance for about 6hrs on these pills though.

From the effects you described it sounded like MDMA, or MDxx at least. It sounds like you had a fairly intense come up, hopefully next time you can enjoy that part of the experience as it won't be as unknown, i guess.

Setting does play a big part. If they are MDMA, then trust me, at a rave you will be in a dancing mood

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think these are the same ones as the ones round SW London at the moment. People call them 'Spirals' here but I think it's the same pill. I heard they are high MDA? Haven't tried them yet as I've got so many X-factors left from a bulk buy.

 

[psrich]

the spirals/windmills i got are well thick and narrow compared to the average pill if its the same ones your talkin about

 

[DarkCode]

Chills? I would hazard a guess at some kind of stimulant + MDMA ! But as I said it is a guess!
MDMA makes me feel warm !

Best feeling in the world, rolling while outside in the 30degree weather in a t-shirt and shorts smoking a cigarette with everyone going "dude, its fucking cold out, im going in", and your sitting there going "wtf, its nice out, its like 70 out", now thats fun. First time on E it was like that.

 

[elfdancer]

Interesting read. I'm glad most of your trip was good. I rather liked the sudden come-up of MDMA. It felt like diving into a clear pool of water. Nothing, nothing, and then -swish!- beautiful, refreshing headspace. Then again, if it's your first psychedelic, I can understand how that might be vaguely alarming. I know what you mean about the deep conversations. Glad you got to share that with your brother.

Also, just a few words of advice -- you mentioned "i got ten to take next weekend because im meant to be going to a rave". ... So now, you're planning to drop as many as 9.5 pills over the course of this rave? Not saying that you shouldn't do it, but, do know that that's certainly a trial by fire! Make sure you take good care of yourself -- eat and drink moderate amounts throughout, and make sure you get to sleep afterward. Search for pre/post-load information. And, uh, I imagine you should expect that the next day (or few days) is going to be reallllly rough. So, clear your schedule out a bit.

I understand about how it's hard to sleep after you've taken MDMA. If you've got access to an Ambien pill, that'll pretty much knock you right out. So when the rave's over, you can just "abort" trippy-mode and get your much needed rest. (I've sometimes found that Benedryl / Diphenhydramine can be a helpful sleep aid, but other times when I've had a lot of psychedelics, that didn't slow me down at all.)

You've noticed how weird it is on your internal temperature gauge and hydration, too. Make sure at the rave that you pay attention to signs that you're getting overheated (any lightheadedness, dizziness, etc) and heed them. To address the point where you were concerned about salt vs. water: Yes, keeping your body isotonic is a problem.

The Department of Health in this country has included in its publicity the words 'water is an antidote to dancing, not an antidote to ecstasy.' People are recommended now to drink one pint of water or isotonic fluid per hour if they are dancing vigorously and not more than one cup of fluid per hour if they are not dancing vigorously.

-- source: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq3.shtml#WATER

Good luck, be safe, have a blast, and let us know how it goes!