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Ecstasy - Experienced - a break for 1.5 years. Magic is gone.

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So it's been about 1.5 years since I've rolled. First, a bit about me, I feel I need to set the stage a bit. I'm a 31 year old male, 5'11 190#. Very physically active, work out regularly, weights and cardio. Good diet, almost flawless.

Little more history. I've been doing E for about 11 years. Maybe once every few months in my early 20s with large breaks (years even). One important bit, in my late 20s I got I to meth. As did some of my old rolling group. I would use recreationally insufilated, maybe every couple weeks for about 6 months. After it was on rare occasions as the source dried up.

So that brings us to tonight (more or less). I had a pill that I've seen tested, came out cleanish (I'd mention the name but I don't want to post anything inappropriate). Here's my full report up to my current state:

9:20 T- 0:00 - setting - my home, alone (worried to do it in public due to it being so long, wanted a safe place). Doing errands like putting the chicken breasts that I cooked for the week away in the fridge.

10:00pm T+ 0:40 - feeling light come up, anxiety, muscle tightness, slight loss of motor control.

10:20pm T+ 1:00 - what I remember flooring to be like. Shaky, taking deep breaths, recalling the storm before the calm (sorry, best description I can give).

10:32pm T+ 1:12 - I note this time because I texted my buddy mentioning that my cat is staring at me and it's tripping me out. :) I got a little smile out of it, but I'm still feeling very overwhelmed.

11:00 T+ 1:40 - I'm out of the flooring stage, at what normally would be peaking (I'm notoriously slow when coming up on this stuff). I still feel very clumsy, but I notice minor changes in the music. I'm noticing more intricacies in the melody and the play between the melody and counter-melody. Just FYI, I'm listening to oakenfold Space in spain.

11:30 T+ 2:10 mild smile on my face. But the strongest feeling is that my muscles are achey and I don't believe I'd like to be social right now (weird, right?). I get up to dance to the music, but I just don't feel it. I relax on the bed again.

12:00am T+ 2:40 I'm coming down, although I wouldn't ever say I was truly up. But I did recognize the feelings of what used to be high. It just didn't seem
to really mean anything to me. I didn't really want anyone around me, as I'm afraid I would bring down their roll.

12:30am T+ 3:10 I'm mostly down now. I still feel up and awake, not sleepy at all. But no smiles, and I've switched to a more mellow album (tiesto, in search of sunrise 3). It's nice, but losing my interest occasionally. I took 2 soma pills to mellow me out on the ride down (not to mention to allieviate some of my muscle tension, damn they're achey!).

1:00am T+ 3:40 (NOW) I still feel a body fry, but nothing mental. Just relaxing in bed listening to music. I'll get to the reason I typed all this up shortly. For the record, I don't feel bad. I just don't feel much of anything. I pretty much had a body fry with very minor mental changes.

Ok, so my experience is not a singular incident. My friend who had done meth with me back in the day has had the same experiences multiple times. There are certain things that either age (not my first guess) or meth (what I believe it to be) caused that keep us from rolling. I believe we've basically fried the part of our brain that let's us feel euphoria. He had taken over 2 years off of meth before he rolled, and his experience was similar to mine. I've only been clean for about 4 months due to an adderral script that I'd abuse. Only once a month. Still, it's abuse.

What I find interesting is that even outside of rolling, I never get that euphoric feeling of love. Is it age? I haven't found the right person? I've met plenty of great girls and never had that euphoric butterflies in the stomach, want, need to be with that person. And the contentment that comes with it. I say this because it's very akin to a roll for me. That at peace, content happiness in the pit of your stomach. Thr ability to connect with people.

I believe that meth has basically fried that part of my brain. My experiences when I was younger were glowing. Even after years of rolling. Then the switch to meth and I've never been the same. I'd like to go back, but I think it's too late. :)

just for anyone who might have access to meth, let it go. It takes away the magic of life a bit. I don't dislike my life mind, but it's different and the magic isn't quite there. I see it in everyday life as well as rolling. :)

I'm off all meth like amps, but I wanted to try E again. I'm not going to give up on thr magic, I just hope the magic doesn't give up on me! Suggestions and those with similar experiences are most welcome to share.

And who knows, maybe I'm just getting old. ;)

Thanks for spending the time reading all this, I hope it enlightens some of you who might step down my path.

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Just for the mods, please don't consider this a live post. I'm most definitely down. It may not have appeared that way in my initial post. I just wanted to fill everything in while it was fresh.

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I'm almost afraid to try higher doses. It's super tough for me to find stuff where I am, and due to my previous abuse of other substances I think it might just not happen for me.

I'm willing to give it a shot again next year likely.
 
Sorry to hear that the magic is gone for you. Maybe that stage of your life is over, and now you can take all the empathy you learned from taking MDMA and put it to good use in the world. Spread the love around as much as possible.
 
If I had to guess id say your dose was too low. 190lbs is above average weight so 1 pill could be a very small dose for you. Especially if its real rough to get in your area I wouldnt be surprised if pill had very low MDMA content.

If you decide to try it again id double your dose or get a pill that someone you trust has first hand experience with.

never tried piracetam but others report success with it, give it a shot.
 
yea wtf, this is very innacurate, how can a pill taste cleanish? the magic is obviously not gone, you just need a higher dose, taking 1 pill even after been sober from it for a while wouldn't do much except to a beginner
 
yea wtf, this is very innacurate, how can a pill taste cleanish? the magic is obviously not gone, you just need a higher dose, taking 1 pill even after been sober from it for a while wouldn't do much except to a beginner

"tested" bro, "tested"... Only thing I can say about the taste is it was nasty as usual, and that wasn't in the report. But thanks for the suggestion on upping the dose as the fellow before you politely put. I'll definitely take that advice next time I have the opportunity to find some.

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Yeah look into Piracetam, for many people (including me) it makes the roll seem more clean, 'innocent' and kind of makes it feel like you are trying MDMA for the first time. Piracetam is pretty cheap,it's been around for a while (since the 70s) and it's the most famous nootropic out there.

So yeah, give it a try and see if does anything.
 
I would also reccomend piracetum. I've been rolling for almost 9 years now with many long breaks in between. There was a time when I thought I was too old for it and that chapter had closed but I decided one night to take a chance and go out to a club to see an awesome DJ and dance. I upped my dose to 4 pills over the course of 3 hours and the magic was back! The magic was only back because it had been 15 months since the previous time and I definately had to up my dose. Tolerance is a bitch my friend.
 
I'm a 31 year old male, 5'11 190#. Very physically active, work out regularly, weights and cardio. Good diet, almost flawless.

Possibly it was your ego blocking the MDMA from getting to your brain? :p

I kid, I kid, but seriously, what relevance does your level of attractiveness and "flawless" body have to do with anything?? %)
 
Possibly it was your ego blocking the MDMA from getting to your brain? :p

I kid, I kid, but seriously, what relevance does your level of attractiveness and "flawless" body have to do with anything?? %)

I was speaking of diet, only diet. So my body would have a proper store of whatever nutrients it might need for the MDMA. Plenty of leafy greens, proteins, complex carbs, omega 3 and 6 EFA's.

My body is far from flawless, and I'm my biggest critic. But my diet is extremely healthy, which often can be of significance in the way MDMA works in our body.

I'm noticing that people seem to be misinterpretting or reading things into my report. I appologise if I came off as a jerk or something.

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I was speaking of diet, only diet. So my body would have a proper store of whatever nutrients it might need for the MDMA. Plenty of leafy greens, proteins, complex carbs, omega 3 and 6 EFA's.

My body is far from flawless, and I'm my biggest critic. But my diet is extremely healthy, which often can be of significance in the way MDMA works in our body.

I'm noticing that people seem to be misinterpretting or reading things into my report. I appologise if I came off as a jerk or something.

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I kinda figured that, but I was mostly just giving ya a hard time :p
 
Yo!

Sometimes you need the right kind of setting to get the magic to appear, especially when you are older and have lots of drug experiences under your belt (I'm similar that way, several recent times i've taken e i haven't felt much magic, but i feel more in control and more mature that I used to). I find that going out to a new place or being with new people brings out the magic. being at burningman also helps, but that place is already plenty magical without drugs.

In terms of physical/emotional effects, I concur with previous posters about taking piracetam. Also, you could try taking 5htp for a while before taking e again, maybe the meth use whacked out your natural balance of dopomine and serotonin, its known that dopamine agonists suppress natural formation of serotonin and serotonin agonists suppress the natural formation of dopamine in your body.

Are you on any medication? Some meds, particularly antidepressants, antianxiety and similar drugs dull the effects of e.

Welcome to bluelight. If you are in seattle, check out the greetings from seattle thread in north america social forum :).
 
I abused MDMA for almost a year straight (I'm talking once or twice a WEEK) and I lost the magic. Doesn't make me feel good anymore, and if it does its very short lived. I stopped completely a while ago, but I've also taken breaks before and, while it helps, I still don't feel it like I use to unfortunately.

MDMA is one of those drugs that you cherish and use sparingly.0
 
MDMA is one of those drugs that you cherish and use sparingly.0

and even then it's not guaranteed.

i did use very moderately (at most every 2 months, mostly twice a year) and still lost the magic. and that after getting only 10 really good rolls. doesn't even work like it used to at high dosages (of those really good pills i had kept from back in the day) at the most magical place i can imagine.
 
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