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Ecstasy and Weed - Third Time - Horrible Experience

scpthoioa

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Hello. I recently had an awful trip off of ecstasy and weed and I'm scared that there might be permanent damage to my brain. I'll try to reproduce the circumstances and events as best I can. It is difficult to transcribe an experience like this into words sometimes.

My friends and I had been trying to get some familiar E from a familiar source, but that didn't work out, so the day in question we got a number of yellow/green dragonflies from someone a friend had recommended as a trustworthy dealer. We'd been out for a few hours before coming home to roll, so it was around 1:00 AM by the time I took my pill, the only one I had that night. I'd barely eaten anything all day.

The last time I'd done ecstasy (about a week prior) it was unlike anything I'd ever felt in my life. It was amazing; I just stood in a spot for hours and let myself melt, and had some great talks with my best friends. It had taken an hour and a half to two hours the other couple times I had taken it, so I didn't feel too bad at first when it wasn't kicking in. By about two and a half hours when all of my friends were claiming it was working and that they felt really good, my mood turned sour. I felt a bit of something, but mostly I was just spaced out and slow to speak, though I was completely aware of everything around me. At about that point I decided to smoke some weed because all of my friends said that it was a catalyst for them.

My background with weed is not so hot. I've never really enjoyed it whole-heartedly on its own; I usually get too anxious and have to go to bed. I even had a near death experience because of it once. I smoke weed when I'm drunk sometimes though, and that can be quite fun, and the other two times on E and it seemed to be a complementary thing.

So I smoked some weed. I don't know how much, and I don't think it was a lot, but I did hold it in for a long time after a couple hoots, so that likely contributed. For a few minutes afterwards I just chilled and waited for the weed to kick in, then went to my room. Once I was in my room I started to feel very odd, and I got down onto my knees and spread my upper body across my bed. I started to hallucinate, and saw myself as a flood of water cutting into desert rock forming rapids, waterfalls, and all that river anatomy. At this point I didn't feel particularly bad, although I had not hallucinated on E previously. My body was slowly slipping from the bed and I took myself out of the trip and got up to see what my friends were up to.

I'm not quite sure when I started freaking out, but the ecstasy was obviously cut with different stuff than the glocks I'd had the previous time, and I felt cheated out of a beautiful experience while all of my friends enjoyed themselves.

When I get high (from pot) I am able to feel things in my body that I am usually unable to feel, which generally causes some of my anxiety, i.e. sometimes I can control my heart. This time, combined with the ecstasy, I think that the weed took the feeling that ecstasy would normally spread throughout my body and morphed it into that "weed" sensation that I don't quite agree with. It was nice, but not nice enough. It was keeping me from my roll. So with the anxiety and frustration at not having a good roll, I started to turn in on myself and started to feel all of these sensations like I would be able to with straight pot, but these were very different from normal. It felt like brain cells were popping in my head, or I could feel my neurons sending neurotransmitters or something - it was a kind of small bursting feeling that was a bit liquidy. I also felt like my brain was bleeding or spinal fluid was leaking into my throat because I felt foreign liquid at the top of my throat accumulate after every time I swallowed. It occurred to me that this could be normal, but just something I had never been aware of before. I began to feel as though my brain was decomposing and shrinking inside of my head, and it terrified me. My friends tried to talk me through it sometimes, but they didn't want to overwhelm me. I was able at certain points to break out and have a laugh with them, but then I'd start frettingly roaming the house again, bang my head against a wall, or go to the bathroom and stare in the mirror. I drank some water throughout the night, though I wasn't sweating and felt a bit sick to my stomach already. I was VERY pale, and my friends noticed this. I had no colour in my face and my feet and legs felt like they were going numb or paralyzed. At one point I was standing in front of the mirror and was convinced that I could see my brain pressing against my forehead, and after talking with my friend the next day, he admitted that I'd convinced him of this as well, though he didn't say it at the time. Not that that really makes sense considering my brain was apparently SHRINKING...

Anyways, I was barraged with these popping feelings and sentiments of horrible death and doom, and as I tried to fall asleep I was convinced that I would wake up retarded in some way, as the drugs were eating my brain. It is now two days later and I still feel somewhat strange, like I'm not all here, and I still have the dreadful idea that my brain is smaller than it was a week ago (I even tested this theory by trying on an old toque - it fits better than I remember!) Running my hands over my head reassures my conviction. There is still the occasional popping in my head, and yesterday I could feel liquid at the top of my throat all day (perhaps this could be due to my cold?) I recognize that maybe I will feel better with more time, but feeling like this at all scares me very much.

For a good part of my life I was a bit of a hypochondriac, but until recently that hadn't been a problem. I've also been to shrinks and on Prozac for anxiety, though that ended months ago so I doubt there was any conflict between that and the ecstasy.

Has anyone else had an experience like this? What was in this ecstasy? Am I really feeling my brain shrink, my brain cells popping, my neurons at work, or my spinal fluid leaking? I have some theories myself, but would anyone mind guessing what the fuck is wrong with me?

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This has happened to me. Listen to me very carefully. Drink orange juice. Guzzle that shit. If you have pill form 5HTP take that too. Stay away from caffeine and amphetamines for 2 days and you'll be fine.
 
scpthoioa said:
Has anyone else had an experience like this? What was in this ecstasy? Am I really feeling my brain shrink, my brain cells popping, my neurons at work, or my spinal fluid leaking? I have some theories myself, but would anyone mind guessing what the fuck is wrong with me?

Nobody can tell you what was in your pill. My suggestion would be to buy a testing kit if you ever feel like taking ecstasy again. Thats one more way to be safe.

Secondly, no your brain isn't shrinking lol. You were just having a really bad experience and sounds like you gave yourself way to much anxiety. You have to remember, its just a drug. Everything will return back to normal in a few days. Like the previous poster said, pick up some 5HTP. That shit helps wonders. You can find it at Walgreens.
 
Yea sometimes stuff turns awry, I can't really judge what you yourself experienced but it seems like you got hold of the idea about stuff happening to your brain rather firmly - I have had similar experiences and in my book the sensation is equal to what people call frying... It all depends on how much of what you took and a lot of other factors that comprise the good ol set and setting. It feels like overload and it must not be good for you, but it will hardly make you a retard instantly... Your trip blows what you feel out of proportion and you start to convince yourself of things you can't possibly know. It's natural for you to overreact we all do it, if you have a history of anxiety-like symptoms it could add to that certainly if there was still something there latently. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's all imaginary or something, weed can make it super vague and it lingers - ecstasy does take a little while to leave the body....

Stuff like anti-oxidants (vitamin C is one thats why the orange juice is a good idea) helps with the damage you are feeling. Alpha lipoic acid is also worth looking in to, 5-HTP helps especially taken before going to sleep, in general get yourself to eat and rest well!
If you are a person who takes MDMA like twice a year don't worry I'm sure it's reversible you got a negative experience and your 'hangover' might also be a crappy one. Unfortunately there might have been nasty stuff in the pill you got but if it was MDMA your brain will survive. If it was nasty stuff youll probably be OK too if you take it easy!
Your brain won't acutely shrink or do other bizarre things, you might have gotten high blood pressure combined with some zaps accounting for what you felt. It can feel weird in itself so imagine if you're really spaced out! Give yourself some slack, relax a little. Come back here in a little while, maybe visit your physician if it doesn't improve in like a week...

By the way what do you call recently, when did this happen to you?
 
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Sounds like the weed made you anxious seeing as you suffer from anxiety and aren't very experienced with it. Your brain isn't shrinking and your spina fluid ain't leaking :)

Take some 5-htp to recover from the mdma and see how it goes.
 
this could have easily been just you getting nervous on mdma. has happened to me a couple of times (although not nearly as often or as powerful as before which is strange!)
 
youv been piped is my theroy.. dont worry about it ther is fuck all wrong with ya piperazines made me feel really bad tingles all over my head and by smoken weed it will increase these horrible feelings you got a piperazine pill and the weeds made you feel worse than you actully were.. nothin to be worried about my friend look up piperazines and pillreports =D
 
Thanks for the answers and reassurances. I know some of that shit sounds ridiculous but it felt so REAL. I've mostly gotten over it but it seems like I got some residual anxiety with pills. Took 7.5 mg of zopiclone (my normal prescription) last week and started feeling weird about my brain again, ugh. Goddam, I hope I can get over it because the first two times I did E were so great. Anyways, thanks again for making me feel better and a bit less insane. :P
 
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