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Ismene

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Ecstasy healing colds

Regarding the closed thread about E healing a flu, I often take E when I've got a bad cold and it usually cures the cold by the next day. It's certainly the best treatment for colds I've ever found. Whether this is some feature of E or simply a consequence of a mood boost helping to heal you physically I wouldn't know.
 
To clarify, this doesn't mean taking E and going to a club and dancing for 5 hours while staying up all night helps a cold. It means staying in a relaxed, quiet atmosphere and experience intense euphoria for several hours after being miserable for days on end can be marvellously beneficial for you. As Shulgin's wife pointed out "Euphoria is good for you".
 
It releives the symptoms of a cold/flue, as does a few other amphetamines I think.

Your immune system will not thank you when your 2x as bad in a few days.
 
Yep Same for me. Maybe different people react differently.
another thing is the content of your pills.
 
yea...i really dont think this would work...i think if you take a pill while your sick....while your rolling you wont feel sick but the next day the syntoms will return
 
How are you taking it? Are you staying up all night dancing in a club and then saying "it made my cold worse"? Or are you using it therapeutically?
 
Why do some drug users refuse to admit that their DoC isn't a miracle drug? MDMA does not make your flu go away. MDMA is fung as fuck but thats what its for!
 
Ismene said:
How are you taking it? Are you staying up all night dancing in a club and then saying "it made my cold worse"? Or are you using it therapeutically?
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well im not dancing the whole nite but im not lying there doing nothing either

~GH~
 
firstly who said X is our DoC?
secondly if it worked for me, few of my friends and the thread starter, what's the big deal ?

as for doing it, ofc i dont dance all nite long.

take pill lay down in bed 2-3 hours drink some nice tea with lemon, and chill listening to music
that's it
 
I have rolled twice while I had a cold. Once was a severe cold, the other time just like sniffles and shit. I wasn't sure if I should drop because I didn't want it to get worse. I dropped anyway, and both times my cold was completely GONE. It wasn't worse a couple of days later, it totally went away...twice. I was at home, not dancing or anything. Just chillin with my man. Newbierock and badstart, maybe you should see if it works before you criticize people. PLUR
 
proxopata said:
firstly who said X is our DoC?
secondly if it worked for me, few of my friends and the thread starter, what's the big deal ?

as for doing it, ofc i dont dance all nite long.

take pill lay down in bed 2-3 hours drink some nice tea with lemon, and chill listening to music
that's it
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Its pretty well known that MDMA negatively effects your immune system. It is taxing on your system in every way. Its just really fun rolling.

I gotta brother who'd argue till he was blue in the face that smoking 5 joints a day makes him healthier, wiser and a better worker. He also thinks smoking weed is good for his colds/flus. I'm not saying I don't smoke 5 joints a day too... I just don't have any allusions of it being good for me. I also do way to much ecstasy but I haven't been able to convince myself yet that this is a good thing.

Take cold medication for the cold. I seriously doubt the MDMA made you better. Its dangerous to do ecstasy if you have a fever. And you would have gotten better without the E. I'm sure it made you nice and relaxed/comfy though (which i guess can be healing)
 
Worst idea ever. I took MDA one day when my throat was slightly hurting sort of the onset of a weak cold and the next day i had a full blown strep throat infection. One of my tonsils was swollen to the point were it was completely blocking half my throat. I was on antibiotics for 2 weeks. I know for a fact if i would have not taken the E i would have not gotten that sick.
 
OK, I like this thread as its encouraging different points of view so lets keep it civil so that we can keep it open.


As an asthmatic, I am well aware of what mdma does for my breathing system. It opens it right up and allows me to do things I could never do while not on it.

I also have noticed that it can help to clear a runny nose etc while using it, however next day I will be coughing up massive chunks of gunk.

For a mild cold, yes I suspect it may be of some benefit however this must then be weighed up against the long term problems you are causing by having had that extra usage, the further damage to the seratonin system, the fact that it takes me a good day or 2 to recover from the usage and the fact that I have lowered my already fragile immune system even more and hence openned myself up to even further problems down the track.


For the flu? Forget about it.
 
I'd be really interested in reading any scientific evidence on this one.

We've heard a lot of anecdotal evidence that MDMA may help people with colds - probably enough anecdotes to suggest that there could be something to this. OTOH, it could be coincidence/placebo.
 
BadStart said:
Its pretty well known that MDMA negatively effects your immune system. It is taxing on your system in every way. Its just really fun rolling.
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Yeah but those are studies where they've injected rats with massive amounts of E directly into their brains every 3 hours for days on end right? We're certainly not talking about a single dose of E. A single dose of E every 6 months isn't going to negatively affect your immune system.

I personally don't think there's much better for getting you on your feet again and feeling well than a few hours of intense euphoria. Whether it's getting a hug from a girlfriend or a hug from our friend E.

Once again - I'm talking about taking it quietly at home early in the day and then getting a good nights sleep - not taking it at midnight and dancing round a club with 1500 people until 7am the following day.
 
This could possibly have merit. But to me it sounds A LOT like placebo... think about it, most of the time when you have a cold, there is a point where it gets significantly better or seems to go away overnight anyway. The fact that you took ecstasy and your cold went away seems to be just a coincidence to me. I agree with what the poster said about smoking 5 joints a day. The argument of "well I did it and I feel fine" just isn't a solid one.
 
Except it's placebo working the wrong way to how it should work. No-one has ever claimed E is good for you, no-one has ever claimed it can help you feel better when ill and no-one has ever claimed it's good for colds - I think most people would tell you it was a terrible mistake to take it when you are ill.

Any placebo effect from E should make us all feel massively worse.
 
^Not if you think it will help... but I still haven't seen any hard evidence that suggests anything supporting the claim that MDMA will help relieve a cold/flu.

BadStart said:
Its pretty well known that MDMA negatively effects your immune system. It is taxing on your system in every way. Its just really fun rolling.

I gotta brother who'd argue till he was blue in the face that smoking 5 joints a day makes him healthier, wiser and a better worker. He also thinks smoking weed is good for his colds/flus. I'm not saying I don't smoke 5 joints a day too... I just don't have any allusions of it being good for me. I also do way to much ecstasy but I haven't been able to convince myself yet that this is a good thing.

Take cold medication for the cold. I seriously doubt the MDMA made you better. Its dangerous to do ecstasy if you have a fever. And you would have gotten better without the E. I'm sure it made you nice and relaxed/comfy though (which i guess can be healing)
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I stand firmly behind everything BadStart says in this post.
 
Maybe placebo was the wrong word...

I'm just saying you're making a connection where there has never been shown to be any correlation. For instance, say I have a cold and I run 2 miles, then the next day wake up feeling fantastic. Does running 2 miles cure a cold? No. But am I going to think there is a correlation there? Maybe. All I'm saying is that doing something out of the ordinary or something that could be considered usually harmful and then seeing positive results from it may be making you believe something that would have probably happened anyways. Colds get better, and our bodies heal themselves over time. So if you hadn't taken E who's to say you wouldn't have felt even better?
 
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