Ecstasy and Oxy.

[ugly]

Really? Interesting... I actually really enjoy enjoy talking to completely random people about some rather deep stuff (well it seems deep while you're rolling). It's almost like you're a kid again without all the social conditioning and inhibitions and other crap.

Of course, to each his own.

I really enjoy conversation when I'm rolling, especially after I peak, but sometimes I go overboard and make a total asshole out of myself by yapping forever. Fortunately my friends have been helping me so if I have too much speed in a pill, they help me not run my mouth like a fuckwad.

 

[ugly]

Fair enough, but I know I'm not the only one who would contend that oxy can be addictive as hell.

I think anyone here would agree that oxy can be frighteningly addictive.

Yes, not everyone will get to this point, but if you keep playing with opiates for long enough, my guess is it will eventually catch you...it's just statistics.

I am 51 and I started taking drugs when I was 14, and I've never had to go to rehab, so I think I found a way to handle my usage. It was a lot of trial and error but I'm sober more than I am on a substance and somehow it works out ok for me, so far, but at 51, I sort of feel good with what I allow myself.

BTW...I never got sick and was able to quit by myself. The juice ain't worth the squeeze IMO, but, by all means, enjoy if it's your thing.

"The juice aint worth the squeeze." I've never heard that axiom before and I love it. That is how I felt with chasing the dragon. Finding the shady dealer, making a shady deal, getting black from the back of the foil all over my face because I would start itching after I hit it. Having the dirty black all over everything I had. I got just sick of it. I decided it wasn't even worth the squeeze for me. I threw my box of foil and and my tooter away and just stopped. I felt sick for two days, but I can't handle a needle and chasing tar up and down a piece of foil with my tooter hovering over the melting tar, me trying to suck every particle of smoke while I'm faded and nodding. The H high was not worth all that ritual and trouble. I literally got sick of fucking with it.

 

[georgewc2001]

I am 51 and I started taking drugs when I was 14, and I've never had to go to rehab]

Congratulations...that's amazing! I actually read somewhere or saw on tv that less than 5% of those who use oxy are able to quit without rehab.

"The juice aint worth the squeeze." I've never heard that axiom before and I love it. That is how I felt with chasing the dragon. Finding the shady dealer, making a shady deal, getting black from the back of the foil all over my face because I would start itching after I hit it. Having the dirty black all over everything I had. I got just sick of it. I decided it wasn't even worth the squeeze for me. I threw my box of foil and and my tooter away and just stopped. I felt sick for two days, but I can't handle a needle and chasing tar up and down a piece of foil with my tooter hovering over the melting tar, me trying to suck every particle of smoke while I'm faded and nodding. The H high was not worth all that ritual and trouble. I literally got sick of fucking with it. [/QUOTE]

Word! My sentiments exactly...I feel that way about oxy and cocaine...just not worth all the accompanying issues.

However, ecstasy for me is well worth it...especially a really good clean balancing insightful trip! It's my favorite drug on earth. Nothing compares IMO.
I really see ecstasy as a spritual experience that can heal an unbalanced soul and mind. The best ecstasy trips for me are the ones that make me say "That was the perfect trip...I loved every second of it and feel completely balanced with no real need to ever do it again. Mission accomplished!"

 

[ugly]

Definitely, George. I love e. Also, if I have a very spiritually enlightening roll, I don't want to roll again either for a while but then I want to have that delicious love cloud around me again, and I start asking around.

 

[georgewc2001]

Yea, I seem to always come back around too :->

Lately, though, I'm ready to give it up...just too many godamn pipes out there. I had a kit and it ran out, so I've been going on trusted friends' advice. And they mean well, but most just can't decipher them.

I should probably make another thread for this, but I just can't understand why so many people can't tell when there's pipe mixed into their pills. And, it's becasue of this that dealers are able to move the shit.

I can tell pipes easily by the feeling and, even before that, by the taste. What's the difficulty for those who've had real MDMA in being able to know the difference? MDMA has a distinct feeling and experience. It's strong empathy, love, eurphoria, insight and afterglow. Pipes will dull all of this, so I really think the population in general needs to be more in tune and demand more quality.

Too many people either knowingly or unknowingly accept PIPE/E combos, but this isn't what's keeping the bastards making the shit in business. What's keeping them in business are those who recommend pills to their friends that are cut with PIPE, so if everyone can be more educated and discerning perhaps we'll see less of them. But I ain't gonna hold my breath.

 

[fayder]

It'll kill your roll. If anything wait till the end of the night after your coming down. Its nice after a long night of rolling, especially when your trying to get some rest. I personally like to blaze all night when im rolling. I do have a few friends that say they don't really get stoned when they're rolling. Personal preference.