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Ecstacy is SO last year: Alcohol is the new drug of the Millennium?

Thoth: :D

Atomica: I'm being purposely incendiary in my remarks... clearly, virtually any drug known to man has more life left in its 'cycle', than does a Pet Rock. But speed, acid, coke and heroin have all had their day. To anyone who is beyond a very dedicated band of drug approvers and users (and that is certainly a minority in the community), these drugs are all last decade's (or well before's) news.

The question is, how close or not, is ecstasy to following that lead?
 
Yeh a glass of red wine is alright but alchohol in excessive quantities sucks ass... and this is the main way it is consumed. I'd much rather put 2 grams of mushies into my body then have to drink 12 beers to have a strong drug experience. Lots of alchohol does nothing for ME personally and those who are drunk seem to show much worse behaviour then people who are bent, rollin etc. I listen to my body and act accordingly and i have NEVER consumed a drug that has mad me feel as shit as alcohol does the next day, even in small doses. I can understand a social drink, but not getting drunk, it seems like such a waste of time. So is it the new drug of the millenium... well as far as i'm concerned it's always been the drug of choice, which in very unfortunate of my opinion... but hey i wish ppl didn't abuse drugs in general.

peace
 
<insert what syke said here>

A nice cold beer goes down well with anything (exempting those drugs that dont mix with alcohol %) ) I find myself having a couple of drinks everytime im out, although this could be due to the fact that i like carrying around cold things that spill everywhere when u forget your holding them and start dancing...

Seriously though i havent really noticed any major change in the alcohol\drug trend, although thats just the places i frequent.
 
Originally by dj scatterface\;

I'd much rather put 2 grams of mushies into my body then have to drink 12 beers to have a strong drug experience. Lots of alchohol does nothing for ME personally and those who are drunk seem to show much worse behaviour then people who are bent, rollin etc. I listen to my body and act accordingly and i have NEVER consumed a drug that has mad me feel as shit as alcohol does the next day, even in small doses.


that's cause you're a soft cock mate lol ;)
 
hoptis said:
I think it's very hard to make any objective statement about something like this when you spend your life "inside" the scene, so to speak.

Exactly. And we have to remember that we're just a generation of ecstacy users.

In my personal perspective, when I started taking ecstacy a few years ago, there was a feeling among my friends that it was still a cool new thing for people like us to do (living in the suburbs of regional Aus) and that we were part of a growing drug culture.

But I also remember that when I was a newbie, one of my friends saw me out on it one night and told me that drugs were, like, soooo two years ago and that I was behind the times for only discovering ecstacy this year. That kinda made me realise that me and my newbie friends weren't as pioneering as we might have thought we were.

And now, a few years later, now that there's been (for example) rave episodes of TV shows like Dawson's Creek and Neighbours, and we hear that the superclubs have died off in the UK, it must be even harder for newbies to feel like they are doing the cool new thing by taking pills.

So maybe ecstacy is gradually losing its hipness as it reaches market saturation, but I doubt that current statistics would suggest that there is a "backslide" in ecstacy use. I reckon its still doing good business.
 
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i dont know about the whole "scene" i think it really depends on where you go, to what type of clubs etc. i see a lot more people just sitting around drinking instead of being off their guts on drugs nowadays, however for myself lately i have gone right off alcohol, i seem to be able to have 1 or 2 but then i just simply dont want anymore and would rather have a soft drink or water.

i think more people now know that being off your guts with friends is fun but sitting around having a few drinks can be fun too. everything changes and goes back and forth to whats in or out, but i agree with whats been said byt numerous others in this thread...drink what u want, snort what u want etc etc. don't go by trends....
 
It's simple, a lot of people are fried after the last three or four years when the 'scene' (for want of a better word) was peaking.

"Ah, sweet liquor. Eases the pain!"
 
Well... I'm using alcohol right now as a way to get rid of the effects of other drugs...

So I guess in the end it always comes back to alcohol. I dont drink as much as I used to, but its definately not a bad passtime. :)

stace.
 
it's always bothered me how.. shit i'll try and say this politely.. fuck.. the way complete dumbfucks with $50 can just go out and buy drugs and take said drugs and suddenly "become cool". but i do think it's less of a trendy type thing to take pills these days because it's so obvious that every man and his dog are doing it so there's more of a distinction between genuinely decent people and retards on e. seriously, the amount of rednecks in pubs who've said to me "what are *you* on? i've had a thisthat and a this.." is absolutely ridiculous. i'm more embarassed than ever to admit i've taken stuff these days.

...but what can you do :)
 
^^^^^^^ Tell em that your on crack (usually does well against rednecks)
although there was this time when i said it and the guy who asked me said "Yeah me too, wanna burn some rocks" but he was just taking the piss as well
 
I believe that as the interest in the dance scene increased, so too did the consumption of pills. It used to be that that pills were xtc (be it mda, mdea,or mdma). As the demand increased there was a brief shortage of real quality. This was quickly overcome by the greater emergence of speed bombs, which did manage to satisfy the general market as alot of the newcomers to the scene were not very "drug aware" . Some would drop a speed bomb (and there were some very nice ones around, remember the "tweeties") have a great time, declare themselves 'ravers' and extol the wonder of xtc, believing that was what they had taken. What had really given them the bliss feelings was the atmosphere that WAS the rave scene. The lack of alcohol (and all that goes with it) along with the relaxed attitude of people, combined with the psycological 'peak' (as they believed it to be xtc in the pill) made for a great night.
As the scene has grown, alot of todays party goers take the pills to enjoy the night believing that it is the pill that makes the party go. They do not get the fact that it is they and how they are that make the party not the drugs. Xtc is just a key that lets you enter the music and the light and alows it to enter you. Good feelings come from within not from without.
Put together the fact that more and more dance parties are being forced into the clubs, there are more 'clubber'type than 'raver' type(noticable by dress,manner,ethos), that drinkers are drinkers are drinkers,that the increase of drug busts(thus reducing the availability of quality mdx)has made pills less effective, and the increase of speed/ice availability (which means you can drink and not get pissed as quick), and that more people are going out to get 'wasted' rather than 'off their chops' and it would have to be said that there is alot more alcohol being consumed at todays dance parties than ever before.
There is also the attitude of yesterdays ravers looking down on todays ravers (dont bag the candy kids when you know thats what you once was) look down on drugs as bad (when it is the abuse of the drugs and your selves thats was and is bad). We do turn into our parents, like it or not. They are after all adults, and that is what all you little teddy-bears out there are growing into... ADULTS. Sorry to scare you folks but its true!
Alot of the old-skoolers do less 'drugs' and more alcohol now because they have REAL not fake IDs. Its ok to smell of alcohol when you are old enough to drink. There is no legal age for drugs as drugs are not legal (thats more of an ethical issue and one that has greater respect and effect than law enforced issue)
The benefit of the decrease in xtc consumption is that as demand lessens, manufacturers will increase their quality again to attract sales. After all, drugs have been part of society for alot longer than religion (and fuck with your head alot less too)
Thats it from me . for those who have got this far , i thankyou for doing so, and hope you can see what i say :D
 
Wow! Scoobydont....great to see your name on the boards fella. Was the only reason I trawled thru this vast, introverted pile of navel-gazing. Hope you and Flea are well :)

As for those interested in 'marketing, fashion and trends'...I think making money is the bottom line; "what's hip and cool people?"... so I can sell you something hip and cool.

As Bill Hicks said...suck a tail pipe :p
 
Scoobydont said:
There is no legal age for drugs as drugs are not legal

a point that cannot be stressed enough *remembers being 15 when it was 100 times easier to buy pills than alcohol* ..well, provided you had the money i guess.
 
Tabernacle said:
^^^^^^^ Tell em that your on crack (usually does well against rednecks)
although there was this time when i said it and the guy who asked me said "Yeah me too, wanna burn some rocks" but he was just taking the piss as well

Ha! :) I always tell them that I'm into inhalents and date-rape drugs =D
 
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