TDS Eating Disorders Megathread

In my view, everything becomes wrapped up in the numbers on the scale and not eating. Counting and writing fown every calorie, trying to stay under 500, or 200. Hitting the treadmill until your knees can't take anymore. If you ate to much your day was ruined and you were so angry with yourself if you didn't you wanted to just take it all back and throw it up. You look in the mirror, you are happy with the extreme weightl loss but you want more. Keep telling yourself 5 or 10 more pounds and then you will be happy. But 5 or 10 pounds is never enough, and you are never any happier.

Or at least thats how I felt when I got REALLY bad..
 
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Ocean I know where you're coming from but EDs are so much more than that. Its such a complex twist of emotion and thought that it really can't be properly understood by a person who thinks about food rationally.
Overcoming an ED like anorexia and bulemia is more than telling yourself you're being silly and that you're great the way you are. There are so many more factors involved.
Sometimes the empty feeling in your stomach makes you so giddy and proud its like a hit of your drug of choice and just as addictive and damaging. The intense rollercoaster of highs and lows on a daily basis is painful but sometimes welcomed at the same time. Like playing with a sore tooth, pushing harder and harder against it even tho you know its doing you damage and will eventually snap but you just can't stop. It won't let you stop.

Bit of a rant there for my first post in here but I just wanted to try and explain that its not that simple.

That is actually a great explanation JoFace.

ocean, I think you should count yourself lucky that you don't fully understand ED's!
My comment about constantly comparing myself to others was merely an illustration of how much I obsess about body image/weight/diet etc. It's not the cause of, nor the drive of my ED. If that makes sense? It's just one small factor in the every day life of a person who doesn't have a healthy relationship with food.
I would write more but I can't quite get my thoughts together coherently...
Feel free to ask me any questions if you like ocean.
 
Thank you for the above. I did feel a little unwanted and upset by your post. But I've also tried to accept that no everyone is going to like me, and posting more usually makes it worse. I'll just try to adapt my posts if I choose to post.

It’s that I don’t like you, girl! : ( seriously I could not gauge that as we don’t tend to respond to each other’s posts much and have never PM… I also have not met you! Haha. You seem like a perfectly nice girl, I hope you have not gotten the impression I think otherwise.

mia, I thought I already replied to your poem but it appears I didn't?

I just wanted to say thanks for sharing it with us. You wrote very maturely for your age at the time!

Thank you girlie! <3 I have too much bad ED poetry… haha but I came across that one randomly, weird the things you write : (

I'm off my anti-depressants which is great and all, but now I am completely 100% OBSESSED with my weight again. I haven't been this obsessed since I started the meds in the first place. It's so fucking exhausting :|
Constantly sizing myself up to everyone else I see and gauging how fat I am in comparison. Thinking of more and more hardcore routines I could get in to in order to lose weight. Obsessing over that biscuit I ate 3 days ago. Ughh here we go again!! 8)

Why did you go off your meds? Are you sure it’s the meds? Usually this happens to me when something else in my life is going really wrong or is extremely difficult, and I use the ED/comparing obsession to avoid having to deal/think about the thing that’s really bothering me. PM me if you want to vent <3
 
In my view, everything becomes wrapped up in the numbers on the scale and not eating. Counting and writing fown every calorie, trying to stay under 500, or 200. Hitting the treadmill until your knees can't take anymore. If you ate to much your day was ruined and you were so angry with yourself if you didn't you wanted to just take it all back and throw it up. You look in the mirror, you are happy with the extreme weightl loss but you want more. Keep telling yourself 5 or 10 more pounds and then you will be happy. But 5 or 10 pounds is never enough, and you are never any happier.

Or at least thats how I felt when I got REALLY bad..
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Ocean I know where you're coming from but EDs are so much more than that. Its such a complex twist of emotion and thought that it really can't be properly understood by a person who thinks about food rationally.
Overcoming an ED like anorexia and bulemia is more than telling yourself you're being silly and that you're great the way you are. There are so many more factors involved.
Sometimes the empty feeling in your stomach makes you so giddy and proud its like a hit of your drug of choice and just as addictive and damaging. The intense rollercoaster of highs and lows on a daily basis is painful but sometimes welcomed at the same time. Like playing with a sore tooth, pushing harder and harder against it even tho you know its doing you damage and will eventually snap but you just can't stop. It won't let you stop.

Bit of a rant there for my first post in here but I just wanted to try and explain that its not that simple.

I agree with the above posts. I have tried to explain what anorexia is to me 4564 times, I wrote a novella about it, I have countless essays and journal entries… but I’ve never been able to get someone who doesn’t have one, or isn’t a psychologist/counselor who’s been treating people with EDs for a LONG time (and even most of the time they don’t really get it) to understand why EDs are so powerful… and why you can’t just snap out of it…

I guess in response to your post Ocean I would say it’s not about being beautiful, or being more beautiful than anyone else. Like Pillthrill said, it’s less about the way you look and more about the numbers. For me, my eating disorder brings a sense of meaning to my life. It may sound pathetic and sad, but the ED stops me from thinking about the things in my life that I hate by focusing on food. It’s the same way people get high, just a distraction from the rest of your life, and a way to bring some happiness into it. I once told my friend when we were talking about how we had both relapsed “and now I’m going back to the food, because it’s so much simpler.” And it is. It’s an easy way to feel like you’ve accomplished something, it’s tangible and dependent on you and no one else, and it brings meaning and fill up your life.

The importance surrounding the numbers is not linked to being prettier or more attractive in some way, but to so many misconceptions you have. You’ll think, if I lose ten pounds, things with my boyfriend will work out better/I’ll get a boyfriend. If I lose ten pounds, my parents will be nicer to me. If I lose ten pounds, I will get better friends. If I lose then pounds, my grades will improve. Your weight becomes linked to everything in your life (even though they have nothing to do with it) and you just think if I lose X I will be happier, but that never happens, because none of these things are linked to the weight, and so you just keep losing, and losing, and losing, and it’s never enough.

On top of that, the weight carries such importance that achieving that number becomes the thing that brings you the most pride, that shows you you are a strong and successful person. Losing a few pounds is equivalent to the best heroin high you could possibly have. And this how the disorder becomes debilitating… when you gain weight or eat something out of the plan, it’s like you got a F in a class that was supposed to be your best subject, your boyfriend broke up with you because he said you hurt him… but these things times 45734879653874. You’ll become so depressed and guilty that you won’t want to get out of bed and function, you’ll sit in a corner and cry because of what you ate… because it makes you feel like your are horrible, undisciplined, disgusting person, and you will never be able to achieve that goal of being happy.

However, all of the above is totally unconscious… you don’t realize you’re placing this importance on food in areas that are unrelated, while you’re in the ED, you just think being thin is all it’s about and being fat is the most terrifying and horrible thing you could possibly think of. But of course, in reality it has nothing to do with weight, but how you think/feel about yourself.

On top of that, nobody with an ED ever knows what they ACTUALLY look like. The image we see in the mirror is completely distorted, and that often never goes away, even after you’ve been in recovery for years.

It all becomes some rooted in your brain though that you may know all of this but feel powerless to change it. Literally, that is why girls die from this disorder... it had the highest death rate of any mental disorder (can't cite a source for that, but I've heard it from several doctors). Most that have an ED never fully recover, just figure out a way to function for the rest of their lives, but never have a normal relationship with food or their bodies.
 
I just thought I'd clarify that I've never suffered from an ED nor do I have any kind of training as a psychologist/counsellor (sp?). Altho I am glad to hear I was spot on with my post and not just rambling shite.
I do have many family members and friends who suffer from Anorexia and EDs not otherwise specified (Can't remember the appropriate acronym) stemming mostly from a bad case of perfectionism and sexual abuse.
I never fully understood what my sister was going through and used to think she was just being malicious and 'wouldn't just snap out of it'. I didn't realise at the time my actions and words toward her hindered rather than helped her recovery.
I was actually lurking in here when I saw Ocean's post looking for any advice I could take on board as one of my youngest sisters (10yrs old) has developed an ED that will probably grow progressively worse as she enters her teens.
I know there are no quick fix solutions but any help I can pass on to my mum that a doctor can't give would be much appreciated.
 
I just thought I'd clarify that I've never suffered from an ED nor do I have any kind of training as a psychologist/counsellor (sp?). Altho I am glad to hear I was spot on with my post and not just rambling shite.
I do have many family members and friends who suffer from Anorexia and EDs not otherwise specified (Can't remember the appropriate acronym) stemming mostly from a bad case of perfectionism and sexual abuse.
I never fully understood what my sister was going through and used to think she was just being malicious and 'wouldn't just snap out of it'. I didn't realise at the time my actions and words toward her hindered rather than helped her recovery.
I was actually lurking in here when I saw Ocean's post looking for any advice I could take on board as one of my youngest sisters (10yrs old) has developed an ED that will probably grow progressively worse as she enters her teens.
I know there are no quick fix solutions but any help I can pass on to my mum that a doctor can't give would be much appreciated.

My ED started at ten years old too. :(

Honestly, the only advice I would have would be to keep forcing treatment on her, keep forcing her to go to groups/nutritonist/doctor/therapist and keep forcing her to eat... I don't know anything else that would have helped me other than just forcing me out of it. Once it gets to a certain point this won't work, but if you catch it in the early stages it might.
 
Thanks guys.
I don't want my little baby sister to have to go through all the pain anyone with any kind of ED goes through.
The poor girl is being bullied mercilessly at school as well :(
Mum does have her seeing specialists and my other sister with an ED (recovering yay!) has been talking with her as well which seems to help.
I wish you guys the best of luck
xoxo
 
I wish that food did not exist.

It is the worst thing and the best thing in my life.

I find it very strange and scary that I feel more guilty about eating than I do about using crystal meth.

Food is bad shit.
 
mia, food is good, food is normal, we as humans need it to survive.
It's our relationship with food that is evil.
But we can learn!
I'm learning.
We can do this mia <3
 
I thought I was better than I was before. But apparently I've lost a lot of weight. The scale at Sean's today said 94 pounds. Thats the lowest my weight has ever been. what the hell?! I'm not starving myself or obsessing about food...
 
This might sound silly but were the scales at Sean's house wrong? Were they not tared correctly? I only say this because the scales at my parents' place are really off, and each time I go there it says I'm 5kg lighter than when I left my house!

Because if you're not starving yourself or paying any particular attention to what you're eating, it doesn't make sense that you've lost a large amount of weight...

Or perhaps it could be stress-related. Are you fidgeting, rushing around, stressing more than usual? Things like this can speed up your metabolism a little bit.
 
Well I try to stay away from scales so its been a long time since I've been on one. Although it is possible.
No I don't seem to be anymore stressed than usual right now. Had a lot of stress before but idk.
People always tell me I look sick, I know I look sick. Sean just gets this concern in his voice that just kills me. I want to be seen as attractive and I can't seem to get what to get what other people say is attractive and get me attention, and what I think is attractive. when I look how they like...I feel fat.
 
I and most guys I know find a "normal" body weight attractive, and we find underweight women unattractive.

i suspect that 90 - 95% of men agree with us. So why cater to that 5% minority, at the cost of physical and mental health consequences?

I have noticed that some women refuse to accept a compliment from men about their appearance. They dismiss it as some sort of sneaky ploy to get them into bed.

Is that what goes on with eating disorders? I am not being critical here, I am just being honest and trying to increase my understanding of this problem.
 
bulimia takes its toll

Oh girls, I did something the past ten days I'm sure you all have heard of.
I did the master cleanse, the lemon/cayenne pepper/maple syrup business....
I had had great results before, so I thought I would try again.
+Did I lose weight? yes....but....
10 years of ANA/MIA has caught up to my rotting TEETH! They are on FIRE! I think I may have worn all of the enamel off the back of one of my teeth, all because I was frickin obsessed with the binge&purge... for what?? A toothless mouth. I'm talking shooting pains in several teeth, not just one.
Stomach acid is one of the strongest acids, they say. So is lemonade. I didn't want to believe it would happen to me.I brush my teeth evey day. I floss.
GODDAMMIT but it felt soooo good to be in control last week!
 
Oh you poor thing. What a bad idea. But you couldn't have know that would have happened. The purging is awful stuff. You know that will kill you too dear <3
 
I haven't eaten any sugar the last couple days, and they're feeling a lot better (my teeth).
The tooth decay- It's just another reason to add to the LIST of reasons not to purge: grossness, shame & guilt, puffy face, becomes addictive, wreaks havoc on your body...
I've only been doing drugs the last couple years but I feel like I've been an addict for ten years, because I love the rush I get from it.
Fortunately the P-doc has me on adderall for my adhd, so now I'm hardly hungry at all, and when I do eat, it's greens or something sugar free...
 
Gld to hear you a better. Please take care of yourself. Feel free to PM me if you want to vent, complain or just talk. :)

I had 1 meal but it was half a baked potato with everything a a medium rare steak! OMG SO F-ing good!
I did pick up a 270 calorie shake to take my meds with so I wouldn't get sick. I want to get better at eating. I just need some help and don't know where to start. I know it sounds like a broken record :(
My mom got some yogurt and I did the protein shake, for some reason that seems to be easier to eat. I'm so STRANGE.
 
I found these the other day, and thought some of you guys might like to use them, or just appreciate them as I did. I don't come in this thread for a reason [massive trigger], but I wanted to share these. Forgive me for not checking in this thread after I'm done - nothing personal. We all have our little coping mechanisms - mine is currently blocking my metaphorical ears. :)

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