easiest way to get off hydrocodone without sub/bupernorphine?

[windtalkers1221]

Hi everyone, I need advice:
I am new to the forum & need help getting OFF hydrocodone, 325mg pills, down to 3 a day every 8 hours.
wondering if the rehabs are scams, living in mid-Florida, no surprise there, (crackdowns going on big time here, feds calling it an epidemic here) Anyways, I was on Methadone from a PM or CP issue, been using about 10 years; last week id had it, told my doctor no more, cause I knew I was getting toxic, not breathing right, nearly died, - waking up gasping for breath, etc.; so the doctor says " No, stay on it" after I appeared in his office because the pharmacy RAN OUT of the drug, & told me "we'll call you when we get it." -I went to over 10 pharmacies, NOBODY HAD IT! At that point I am thinking, I 've been cut off, or maybe they didn't have it? , thought:" I cant go on, this is bad really bad! I am getting real sick." So, I come home with the hydro, & of course went through the most miserable withdrawal alone in my apartment...lost 3 days, no memory, in total AGONY, unexplainable pain & I WAS STILL TAKING HYDROCODONE, & I think I almost passed through this last experience.-Yeah it was dumb to try that decrease of opioids, ALONE, but I knew I was toxic, I am really serious about getting off this junk.

Not only that, I am on Ativan, and some other lovelies, of which I ate through little avail through withdrawal, yes I know you aren't supposed to mix, but hey, those are small change at this point.

therefore; I am wondering, is there really a way off these pills? I am okay today, but if I go to rehab I really don't want to take the subs, as I've heard they are stronger than the hydro, any one have experience getting off hydrocodone, are there any medicinal homeopathic methods I could try? Any advice on good rehabs in Tampa Bay area, I know there's a Mayo clinic in Tallahassee, I've got insurance, that covers, luckily & can stand the withdrawal, I think if it weren't for the "kicks" that's the part of w/d I absolutely cannot tolerate, cannot tolerate, I'll jump out the f'ing window if I have to feel that thrashing of my legs again, and that butterflies on the bottom of the feet thingy/feeling. I am thinking maybe some ted hose or something would help?

-I used to be a nurse, (& hell no that's no how this started! I'd never take someone's dope, esp. in nursing home!)- I had an accident with my back, (hairline fracture, that's gotten worse over the years, started with Percocet) and then my BYF died, of alcohol poisoning (typical crowd for a nursing mind, we tend take in the sick & suffering) and then Satan decided to give me man that could have only come from the lowest gutters of hell, during my grief & loss of the love of my life, this new "friend" pretty much took advantage of the situation & basically ruined me; cause he had "pills for my back pain" ( & my grief). - blah, blah...

Now- 44 years old, alone, 10 years later & scared; jobless, broke, and wondering if withdrawal may not just kill me next time, my health is decent, but I smoke like a pig, probably have some heart disease and my pet guinea pig died last week.

I am thinking this is the end. I used to be such a benevolent loving spirit, and now I just can't tolerate people, so sad, a waste case.

ahhh- 8( sick of being sick,- wind.

Edited the size and color, small and red makes it difficult to read and you will get more responses this way, feel free to change the color again but making the entire post have incredibly small text will definitely make more people not bother reading it. -CaseFace

 

[pasha]

homeless -> sober living

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

First up, the 325mg refers to the amount of paracetamol in the pill not the amount of hydrocodone.

Three a day is a pretty small dose, if I was in your position I would probably amass some extra benzos and some sedative anti-histamines and just jump right off using the other meds to deal with the withdrawal. That's me though.

What you will probably find easiest is to just do a simple taper, maybe drop your dosage by half a pill every two days or something like that. You're going to feel a little shitty, but that's the nature of doing an opiate detox.

Whether you need or would benefit from rehab is a seperate matter to that of detoxing really. Not got time to go in to more detail now, but if I were you I would either do a quick taper and suck it up or just jump off from where you are and suck it up.

The fact you are addicted to benzos should be just as much of a concern for you.

Hopefully someone else will take up the thread with some more detailed info, I've got to shoot. Good luck.

 

[caseface99]

Originally posted by NSA - relevant advice for this thread. Here's a list of medications that will help you detox as well as some other info:

medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

In order to successfully kick and then being able to live an enjoyable and peaceful life in recovery requires that we plan for and address at least four things

1) Acute withdrawal
2) Post acute withdrawal
3) The addiction
4) The roots of our addiction

Have you thought about ways you plan on addressing all these areas. It is often really beneficial to come up with a strong plan while still on maintenance so we are ready when needed.

I'll write a more personalized response in a bit, no time right now.

 

[windtalkers1221]

Thanks to all people who replied: esp caseface!
UpDate: I am off all opiates and am on subs @ 8 mg a day, as for amount off opiates that one takes; I was just as addicted at 40 mg p day as anyone at a higher dose, I went through literal hell, along with The RLS of the worst kind! I tied socks to my feet to stop the kicks that lasted for days, which actually helped, have little memory of the whole thing but looking back, I'd follow case faces med advice, melatonin helps a lot, the Benzos helps w sleep but if I had to do again I'd go to rehab, it was pretty shitty. Anyways thanks for the posts.

 

[SAMCRO]

Thanks to all people who replied: esp caseface!
UpDate: I am off all opiates and am on subs @ 8 mg a day, as for amount off opiates that one takes; I was just as addicted at 40 mg p day as anyone at a higher dose, I went through literal hell, along with The RLS of the worst kind! I tied socks to my feet to stop the kicks that lasted for days, which actually helped, have little memory of the whole thing but looking back, I'd follow case faces med advice, melatonin helps a lot, the Benzos helps w sleep but if I had to do again I'd go to rehab, it was pretty shitty. Anyways thanks for the posts.

Just a small bit of advice but if you were taking hyrdro's you could probably be held by 1mg/day bupe. Most would say you shouldn't even use bupe for that habit but at least use a much lower dose which will have fewer side effects. Don't be hesitant to try cutting your dose in half and then in half again after stabilizing.

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

I second what is being said about 8mg..its way to much.im no doc but i know ppl who take 1mg-2mg a day and they came off huge oxy habits.its worth a try before u take all that sub for too long and those things are hell on earth to come off of

also,if u ever want something that might help u if/when u wana kick the opiates try lyrica or kratom they helped me out tremendously

 

[nygiants1313]

Just jump and deal with it for 4 days.