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"There have been studies, of, i mean experimental studies. Quite well controlled double blind studies.. Of whether 3rd party prayer, praying for; in this case victims of heart disease would get better if they were prayed for. It's quite difficult to design a double blind trial to do this because the patients are not allowed to know they're being prayed for. And the people doing the praying must not know who they are praying for so you are not allowed to say you are praying for john smith you have to diguise it a bit by saying you are praying for john S.

You will not be surprised to know that prayer had absolutely no affect whatsoever on recovery rates apart from the rather curious fact in which they did another trial where there patients were allowed to know that they were being prayed for. And then they got worse."

Richard Dawkings.

Reason being? If they knew they were being prayed for they thought they should be getting better.. causing anxiety.

GOGOGO Religion w00t.

This study was funded by the templet foundation.. which were trying to prove the opposite.
 
rickolasnice said:
More harm being caused by religion:

This is being taught to children in school..

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This image is now trying to be removed from facebook..
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Wait there's no way that's true 8o
 
Snopes says it is, though only traceable to one fundamentalist Christian school in North Carolina or somewhere.
 
Creationism/intelligent design is definitely taught in some states of the worlds most powerful country. Garry Trudeau does a brilliant satire on it in Doonesbury but I can't search the archives to find it.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how religious people (I'm talking Christians more here, as that's who I have had experience talking to) all seem to cherry pick bits and bobs from the bible, giving more importance to some bits than others. Practicing some things, not others. This makes it not the word of god (as if it ever was in the first place) but the word of man...who has distorted any meaning it may have had.

Also dislike the way a lot of Christians try constantly to weave their aging religious rubbish into their understanding of the world, brought to them by modern science... desperately trying to still cling to something so incompatible, full of holes and misinformation etc.

The power of upbringing as children/influence of parents & the society one is born into...

Quite shocking really.
 
Wow, had no idea that was still going on.
...I don't think there's much else to say about that.

Is this what you were talking about? :D

Edit: haha, great minds. I love Doonesbury <3
 
Ooohhh, Pagey. This could be love. You're the first person on here to know what I'm on about when I talk of Doonesbury.

Swoon etc. <3
 
Tangerine Dream said:
It never ceases to amaze me how religious people (I'm talking Christians more here, as that's who I have had experience talking to) all seem to cherry pick bits and bobs from the bible, giving more importance to some bits than others. Practicing some things, not others. This makes it not the word of god (as if it ever was in the first place) but the word of man...who has distorted any meaning it may have had.

Also dislike the way a lot of Christians try constantly to weave their aging religious rubbish into their understanding of the world, brought to them by modern science... desperately trying to still cling to something so incompatible, full of holes and misinformation etc.

The power of upbringing as children/influence of parents & the society one is born into...

Quite shocking really.
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Did you ever meet MisterSoilsBags?

You would've loved him. ;)
 
What is the most serious injustice based on religious bias you have personally witnessed?

https://www.facebook.com/RichardDawkinsFoundation/posts/10151595479280155

Some comments:

Joszef Bonomini never really witnessed anything but I remember in the news when I was a kid a young boy died after being denied a blood transfusion by JW parents and that really made me ask questions of religion at the time. I think he was only 5/6 years old
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Izabel Batshitcrazy Farrall being woken up by a vicar "excorising" my so called deamons, my mother was a total religous nut and i did not conform to the rules! So she got me while i slept. I was 16yrs old! I was not impressed to say the least.
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Joanna Chan I lived it also. Being beaten by my mother and forced to pray to God for forgiveness at the age of 7, because I made Lego characters that resembled "devils"
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Dawn Hicks My friend got badly beaten into a coma many years ago by his mother and father then he was disowned by them and left to die before someone found him because they found out he wasn't religious. He kept a lie saying he was so he could be a family. He is ok now after 2 years and he life actually have got a lot better without him being around parents like that. Sad to see
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Kath Wattam The torment a colleague and family is going through as their mother refuses an operation that could save her life but can't be done because as a JW she won't accept a blood transfusion. The miracle is how the medical staff have kept her alive for so long as they try to find a work-around, but she is getting weaker and sicker, and her sons and daughter are suffering the agonisingly slow loss of their mother, when she could have been home and well by this time :´(
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And over 1000 more..
 
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