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EADD - The Healthy Living Thread

14 weeks later and I have completed my Fat Fighters course!

Did I lose weight? No, no I didn’t. I did, however, lose plenty of fat around my thighs and gained a modicum of muscle in the same area.

No flab lost around my gut, sadly :\

Got four weeks gym pass starting sometime next week that I’ll be making good use of, mind. Beyond that we’ll have to see how funds pan out…

Overall a great experience though: highly recommended!
 
Shambles said:
14 weeks later and I have completed my Fat Fighters course!

Did I lose weight? No, no I didn’t. I did, however, lose plenty of fat around my thighs and gained a modicum of muscle in the same area.

No flab lost around my gut, sadly :\

Got four weeks gym pass starting sometime next week that I’ll be making good use of, mind. Beyond that we’ll have to see how funds pan out…

Overall a great experience though: highly recommended!
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Glad you found it a great experience and had at least some gains. They do say that weight around the gut is the most difficult to shift. I think it can takes many months of calorie restriction and exercise to progress with that.

I have a slim build, and there's not much beef on my upper arms or thighs, and even less on my skinny forearms and lower legs. But I have a large and hideous mass around my belly!!

I've recently found out that I have a large tear in my abdominal wall, with not just one, but 2 hernias protruding through!! (And no doubt adding to the mass of my protruding pot belly, as well as the hernias having pushed through the tears, it seems possible that the tears are just weakening the muscular structure of my entire abdominal area, and so it's just not holding things in as well as it should be. I'm obviously no surgeon or anatomy expert, it just seems plausible though.)

I think this could be either good or bad news. If after I get the scan, and the hernias turn out to be consisting of fatty tissue, rather than parts of my intestines having broken through, then maybe I can ask the surgeon if those can be removed, rather than attempting to push them back in, as they often do, before they do the surgery to repair the abdominal wall.

I've seen some before and after photos of people's stomachs following hernia surgery, and they can serve to reduce people's bellies massively. Although the surgery is not meant to be for cosmetic reasons, I hope it will help in that regard.

I'm not saying you might have a hernia, I've just gone off on a tangent, as your post prompted me to relate my own experience. :roll eyes:

What do you reckon @LoginNotSecure if you see this post ? Do you think I could ask the surgeon to remove fatty tissue rather than push it back it in, or would that make the surgery more complicated and risky than it needs to be? Or might they just remove the fatty protrudences as a matter of course? I know you're not a hernia surgeon specialist, but you might have some idea from your medical training?
 
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Had my induction tonight at the local gym for my four week gym pass. Started me off very, very gentle (oh yeah, you get a personalised exercise plan too - bonus!) so flew through it.

Planning on upping the ante considerably and achieving the set goals well ahead of time expected.

Actually enjoy the gym - it’s the cost that scuppers me :! - but hopefully got a workaround for that incoming… we shall see 😎
 
I need to stop my post dinner, weed munchies, while the ADHD meds wear off, which I suspect is causing dopamine cravings, which are partially relieved by snacking on certain types of food.

(How many excuses do I have for being a porker :ROFLMAO: but I do think the weed is likely creating munchies and the snacking might be fiending for more dopamine as it leaves my brain. Apparently lots of people do gorge high fat and / or high sugar junk food for the dopamine hit as the main driver.)

I'll allow myself half or even full cartons of grapes, but the fattening snacks have got to stop.

It was oat milk and granola for a while, now it's full fat greek yogurt and honey, sometimes with granola.

I'm buying the yogurt for kratom consumption. Which is regular, although I am tapering off. And then when I have a fridge full of those yogurts its hard not to wolf them.

So I could either switch to the low fat / no fat version which tastes really bad, or get on with my taper. I tend to make solid progress on the taper during work days, but whenever I have some days off I tend to binge on the kratom, which sets me back every time :roll eyes:

Or once I've finished my taper I need no longer buy those yogurts and so wont have any tempting snacks in the house. I'll only have either shredded wheat, unsugared and unsalted, or toast and margerine, and neither are very appealing post dinner snacks.

Which is the whole idea.
 
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A lot to go on and i reducing the Marathon to 1/4 as goal.
Gotta keep it real, no realistic better that should be 10.54875 km.
Saturday 2 weekend s ago i ran 3.5 km first time going over a 1 km.
Since loooooong time. Felt great, smoothly as if been doing it every day.

No man with the hammer ? Next night i had a seizure.
But due to this Healthy living, not only was my endurance better.
The usual side effect s, muscle ache/ recovery time all were enhanced.
Only the seizure i don t get, maybe it is not related even.

The Creatine ! 👍:green banana::middle finger: Was a very good tip and probably the miracle.
In my stack along the Pea derived Proteins [contain s BCCA s] 💪. :heart1: it.
My supp s most bought in a 'action' corner. Preferable 50 to 70 % discount s.
What else 75 push-ups, started with series of 3 3x times @F.U.B.A.R. , serious.
Worked my way up slow & steady, endurance is Good too. To train Vigurously:wizard: !

Balance is what it s about :notacrook:, and having others do the dirty work preferable.
Like pre-fermenting your food s for extra s and better BA. By other s.
Missed Raw Veggie s and Fruit. Smoothies a life saver, nice balance between intake ease and amount consumed. Deep [or buy] Freeze fruit !

A dead meat eater. Or a sluggish pendant Vegetarian or worse a
PescisCukele Kuuuch. Was that i became Rastafarian who eat Ital, delicious.
Now i eat everything, can eat what ever but 50/ 70 % discount. Has priority.

eMKEe i eat what you throw away.
 
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Bleaney said:
Glad you found it a great experience and had at least some gains. They do say that weight around the gut is the most difficult to shift. I think it can takes many months of calorie restriction and exercise to progress with that.

I have a slim build, and there's not much beef on my upper arms or thighs, and even less on my skinny forearms and lower legs. But I have a large and hideous mass around my belly!!

I've recently found out that I have a large tear in my abdominal wall, with not just one, but 2 hernias protruding through!! (And no doubt adding to the mass of my protruding pot belly, as well as the hernias having pushed through the tears, it seems possible that the tears are just weakening the muscular structure of my entire abdominal area, and so it's just not holding things in as well as it should be. I'm obviously no surgeon or anatomy expert, it just seems plausible though.)

I think this could be either good or bad news. If after I get the scan, and the hernias turn out to be consisting of fatty tissue, rather than parts of my intestines having broken through, then maybe I can ask the surgeon if those can be removed, rather than attempting to push them back in, as they often do, before they do the surgery to repair the abdominal wall.

I've seen some before and after photos of people's stomachs following hernia surgery, and they can serve to reduce people's bellies massively. Although the surgery is not meant to be for cosmetic reasons, I hope it will help in that regard.

I'm not saying you might have a hernia, I've just gone off on a tangent, as your post prompted me to relate my own experience. :roll eyes:

What do you reckon @LoginNotSecure if you see this post ? Do you think I could ask the surgeon to remove fatty tissue rather than push it back it in, or would that make the surgery more complicated and risky than it needs to be? Or might they just remove the fatty protrudences as a matter of course? I know you're not a hernia surgeon specialist, but you might have some idea from your medical training?
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I’m not surgical and I’d assume any fix would be on the NHS? If so, pushed back in and a wire mesh over it to stop it coming back through, stitched and done. You never know, you might get a Dr who’s good at their craft and do more than the bare minimum. You roll the dice, you take your chances.

Privately, I’d expect you’d get the outcome you’re wanting for around £2,500.
 
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I’m not surgical and I’d assume any fix would be on the NHS? If so, pushed back in and a wire mesh over it to stop it coming back through, stitched and done. You never know, you might get a Dr who’s good at their craft and do more than the bare minimum. You roll the dice, you take your chances.

Privately, I’d expect you’d get the outcome you’re wanting for around £2,500.
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OK thanks, that's helpful and informative. Although that's not the answer I was hoping for, obviously it's better to have realistic expectations.

I might mention during my upcoming scan, if it does turn out to be fatty tissue, if there is any chance that any of it can be removed, rather than pushed back in. Nothing to lose by asking I guess.

Yeah I'll more than likely be having this done on the NHS.
 
Bleaney said:
OK thanks, that's helpful and informative. Although that's not the answer I was hoping for, obviously it's better to have realistic expectations.

I might mention during my upcoming scan, if it does turn out to be fatty tissue, if there is any chance that any of it can be removed, rather than pushed back in. Nothing to lose by asking I guess.

Yeah I'll more than likely be having this done on the NHS.
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100% ask, beg, plead your case. If the referring Dr thinks it's in your best interest, then better to have it down on paper. Don't forget you can always ask for a second opinion there and then. If you write down your case or remember it well, then you can rattle through a list of reasons pro/con in a precise manner without getting flustered.

Give it a bash, Dr. Pepper it. (What's the worst that could happen)
 
LoginNotSecure said:
100% ask, beg, plead your case. If the referring Dr thinks it's in your best interest, then better to have it down on paper. Don't forget you can always ask for a second opinion there and then. If you write down your case or remember it well, then you can rattle through a list of reasons pro/con in a precise manner without getting flustered.

Give it a bash, Dr. Pepper it. (What's the worst that could happen)
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Good advice!! Thanks! I will do that!
 
I've got a hiatal hernia too...took omeprazole 10mg for years and the 20mg for more years but seem to have managed it via diet changes etc and have come off the meds a year or so ago and only have a single gaviscon every week or so now. They seem to prescribe proton-pump inhibitors (like omeprazole) willy nilly for years yet guidelines say something like 2 weeks is best, heh. My fault for outsorcing sensibility I guess. I can still feel the hernia's 'presence' though and have to be careful (but often fail in that, y'know the score...same old...)

Anyway my point is that I'd be more keen for a hernia op if there was a chance of getting rid of some belly-weigh too! Not that I'm obese or owt but am definitely carrying more weight than is ideal (could probs do woth losing a stone maybe (havent actually weighed myself for, errr... ages)..it's all on the belly though, same as many men of a certain age it appears. Ahem. I put 2 stone on in the year after giving up baccy after being slim for my whole life and never really lost it (although there's been fluctuations).

Fucking don't like it haha gotta say - my self concept does not involve tummy fat. One is not young anymore though, but still.
 
LoginNotSecure said:
100% ask, beg, plead your case. If the referring Dr thinks it's in your best interest, then better to have it down on paper. Don't forget you can always ask for a second opinion there and then. If you write down your case or remember it well, then you can rattle through a list of reasons pro/con in a precise manner without getting flustered.

Give it a bash, Dr. Pepper it. (What's the worst that could happen)
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hmmm, so, if i went for op and said "heyy doc, this hernia op is all well n good n all but y'know what...if I don't lose three inches off my waistline I may well be off the nearest bridge or may dive into a massive bag of class a's for the next xxx years" you think they'd oblige?
 
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