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EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

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Avoid, I have done it a few times, I think it is actually 3-CE but I am not 100% on chemistry.
It lasts way to long & your body feels like you have been run over by a truck, I ignored the Shulgin write up about body issues & went ahead, it's not a nice experience in my view.

I would go back to it one day but in no great hurry to do so.
 
I expect MXE & opiates is probably really nice generally though no?

Sadly not in my experience, if I did mxe first I wouldn't feel the heroin in the right way & vise versa, I know mxe has effect on some opiate part of the brain but in my many tries with it results were poor.

Sorry double post btw.
 
How well will SSRis mix with 4-FA?

Extremely badly !!!! That combo gave me the worst headache of my life. I thought i was going to have a brain haemoridge or something. Almost dialled 999 but emptying my stomach through puking solved the problem without needing ambulances and then probably an inevitable police follow up. I bet many drug users are worried about dialling 999 when they get into difficulties for that reason. Its scary when things go badly wrong; i mean if id taken a bigger dose and not puked nor dialled 999 i could have died. Maybe im being over dramatic but theres no doubt a headache of that severity was a sign something was going very badly wrong.

SSRIs and meph was great though. I dont think Meph fucks around with serotonin levels too much, or if it does its only indirectly. I got through at least 17 grams of pre ban meph whilst on an SSRI and never had anything but the desired effects, so i think thats safe enough. In general i think stimulants affect the dopamine receptors, release or re-uptake or whatever (i dont understand neuro-chemistry in any depth) but 4fa is unusual for a stimulant as its all about the serotonin.
 
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Avoid, I have done it a few times, I think it is actually 3-CE but I am not 100% on chemistry.
It lasts way to long & your body feels like you have been run over by a truck, I ignored the Shulgin write up about body issues & went ahead, it's not a nice experience in my view.

I would go back to it one day but in no great hurry to do so.

Im not really into trippy stuff as im prone to anxiety, so id have to preload on benzos which limits the experience. Ive only done mxe 3 or 4 times and its been over 20 years since i did LSD and mushies. Ive not done any of the xCx chemicals, and i dont plan on doing any time soon.
 
just about every one in here the was a point a few weeks or a month or so ago every one was raving about it may try it again but with the other free sample i can get for my normal score it maybe awhile
 
Sadly not in my experience, if I did mxe first I wouldn't feel the heroin in the right way & vise versa, I know mxe has effect on some opiate part of the brain but in my many tries with it results were poor.

Sorry double post btw.

Aw really? Shame, I was thinking that could be a killer combo :(
Gonna try out that opiate RC tomorrow night I think, AH-somethingsomething, hope it's good.
 
Also, its a shite opiate, no euphoria or warmth and just a cold empty nod at higher doses, plus it fucked me up the next day, started nodding off at work and felt dizzy & shit with none of the niceness..

Not worth the risk of fucking up for that.
 
Why? You've done so well sacking the gear, why risk it all on a dodgy RC opioid that could take you right back to square one?

Please reconsider....

Check out the heroin thread, I've already messed it all up with gear the whole week, I've kinda given up :(
Think I'm gonna try to get on subs soon.

Also, its a shite opiate, no euphoria or warmth and just a cold empty nod at higher doses, plus it fucked me up the next day, started nodding off at work and felt dizzy & shit with none of the niceness..

Not worth the risk of fucking up for that.

Really? I heard a few good things about it

yer its only good for come downs pagey really is not worth it better off even then with a bottle of vodka

read this first http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/689803-The-AH-7921-Side-effect-and-withdrawal-WARNING and this one http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/612116-The-AH-7921-(Ah7921)-Megathread-(v1)

Eh, I already have it, only have one dose anyway so I'm just trying it once. It's not as if I'd ever get a habit out of that, if I want opiates I have all the heroin I need, it's just out of curiosity. Thanks though :)
 
i was just saying its crap really and was just thinking best for you not to if you have had a smack habit all ready and kicked it :)

thing is ive gone through grams when i first came out got nothing off it at all and that's with no tolerance another crappy rc form a certain vendor that had very bad run of snyths last couple of years if you going to mess round with them try w15 even though i dont think thats meant to be much better

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/667316-W-15
 
Sorry to hear you've slipped Pagey. Hope you're not being hard on yourself, IME (and I'm pretty good at it) it's usually a self-defeating thing. Maybe it's different for different people, some people seem to thrive on self-criticism, I did for a long time, and if you're in good spirits it can be useful, I think it has to have something to feed off, so if you're already at an emotional low it won't spur you on to better things, just the opposite.

I found AH7921 pretty nondescript at first, but with perseverance it can deliver. Not a sensible thing to persevere at and the hidden costs might outweigh the apparent benefits in the end. YKWIM ;)
 
Personally I wouldn't pay my money for RC's along the opiate line, I will stick to what I know as atm I am still onto the good stuff.

Pagey - Ye God's I know we don't know each other very well but for all it's worth don't slip back, I remember you saying you were new9ish) to gear but take my word for it don't go back I mean it. I have lost nearly 11 years of my life to it. You have a good job & life etc, believe me you will loose everything you have & more. I am not a single voice on EADD, anyone with long terms use of it will say the same. For all it is worth I wish you luck, my positive wishes are with you :)
 
damn it thanks jesus love that stuff as well so may have to get some any way tried 3-meo-pcp but the pricing is to high for my tastes really like 4-meo-pcp though damn it im drooling now :)

I've been wanting to try both for a while now, I think I'll go for 3-MeO-PCP in the end though because I've just seen such a mixed bag of reviews regarding the dosage and effects of 4 that I feel like every vendor has a different product and I'm worried I won't get the real thing. That and with the prices for both being pretty high I feel like the 3 might be better value for money given the even-lower-than-MXE dosages.

Hey Pagey :) I just wanted to say, no need to give up :) I think that's the biggest think blocking you (and many other people) from stopping, you've adopted the attitude so many people have where "shit I slipped up/relapsed" is the same as "it's over, I failed" - you slipped up and that's it, doesn't mean you have to stop trying, just means you didn't do as well as planned..

Don't you think a break with a slip up is better than having just been on the gear the whole time anyway? Even if you slip up again, and again, you're giving yourself much needed breaks and I'm willing to bet each time will be longer and closer to kicking for good. Keep at it rather than giving up <3 you can do it! Look at the progress you've made, rather than seeing mistakes along the way as failure. :)
 
4-meo-pcp is a <3 of mine.
Sadly the vendor I was getting it from quit & I haven't had any for a while but I liked it more than mxe, dxm or Ketamine. I have had some of my most deep trips on 4-meo-pcp BUT it has a very dark side to it I will warn you now.

I used to abuse it a bit I will admit, I could do 200mg + in a day which is dumb really, the point came when 2 things happened, the 1st was being naked at 5am crashed out in the grass cutting heap & the 2nd was coming round in the kitched bin.
I will never, ever forget my trip on it where I saw the robot Geisha people that spoke in Binary, if that wasn't some kind of direct link to some kind of God's I will eat this PC, out of all my trips that one really changed my view on dimensional travel.

I have never used 3-meo-pcp myself but the 4 position I hold in very high regard, I would go so far as to call it a "God chemical"
 
Dimensional travel and dissociatives are nuts and bolts, can't have one without the other! :D it's what makes me love them so much in the first place, I don't really know or care whether I'm escaping the rules of normal perception or just delving deeper into them but the stuff I've seen and experienced is bloody wonderful (and crazy) either way.

A couple of my favourite weird occurences include me and my friend both seeing ourselves out of each others eyes at the exact same moment for a few seconds, and a Groundhog day type experience where I lived out a whole normal week in the K hole, seeing how my current life would lead to everything going dramatically wrong if I didn't make changes, and then woke up and realised it had just been a trip and I was back to day one - got the chance to make those changes and make sure everything went okay. :)

You given Diphenidine a try yet? I've heard it compared to 3-MeO-PCP by a few, though only having tried Diphenidine and not 3-MeO I can't really say if this is a good comparison or not. I wrote a report though here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ed-with-dissociatives-Caught-up-in-the-clouds :)

I do love my dissociatives, maybe it's about time I get 4-MeO or 3-MeO after all.. or at least just get some more MXE in or something :D
 
Dimensional travel and dissociatives are nuts and bolts, can't have one without the other! :D it's what makes me love them so much in the first place, I don't really know or care whether I'm escaping the rules of normal perception or just delving deeper into them but the stuff I've seen and experienced is bloody wonderful (and crazy) either way.

A couple of my favourite weird occurences include me and my friend both seeing ourselves out of each others eyes at the exact same moment for a few seconds, and a Groundhog day type experience where I lived out a whole normal week in the K hole, seeing how my current life would lead to everything going dramatically wrong if I didn't make changes, and then woke up and realised it had just been a trip and I was back to day one - got the chance to make those changes and make sure everything went okay. :)

You given Diphenidine a try yet? I've heard it compared to 3-MeO-PCP by a few, though only having tried Diphenidine and not 3-MeO I can't really say if this is a good comparison or not. I wrote a report though here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ed-with-dissociatives-Caught-up-in-the-clouds :)

I do love my dissociatives, maybe it's about time I get 4-MeO or 3-MeO after all.. or at least just get some more MXE in or something :D

I agree 100% with what you said on Dimensional travel, I find dissociatives give me far better trips than anything else & I can take the bits I learned from the trip into my daily life & change things, I remember the morning after my 1st mxe trip, I felt as if I had been reborn in some way & my "soul" felt clean, I had a new spring in my step & just felt a new person.

A couple of my favourite weird occurences include me and my friend both seeing ourselves out of each others eyes at the exact same moment for a few seconds

Had the same thing happen to me with my ex, well me & her had alot of very strange things happen on mxe together, it was from the mxe trips together that I knew I had known her in a past life & though not together now we still call each other our soul mate.

Never heard of Diphenidine, I am just about to have a look into it, sadly the vendor I use now is out of mxe till around the 20th of this month as I wanted to do some more but I will have to wait.
I know some people think K is the best but imo I find mxe alot more of a semi religious experience, I rate "mexxy" way above K but each to their own.
 
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They bored amazing and special, crazy times on them. enlightening

DMT trips as well, ive tripped with people and it feels like we're tripping as one
 
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