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EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Pirate Flagship XIII v. So Shit I'm Gonna Throw It In The Bin

Never posted a picture of my Meph before but...

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Is that what you guys mean by yellow? I mean it's more off-white really.
 
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I used to have a stack of VIP cards for clubs & casinos that I used.

The Casino card definitely sums it up...;)

It's a love hate thing with Meph... It's worse for longer than it"a good but when it's good... it's amazing. Despite the fact my Meph seems almost up to Pre-Ban standards, I seem to have lost some of that magic. Feeling it much stronger after an 8 month break though.
 
Feeling extremely naive at the min. I've been reading through numerous threads trying to get a bit of info as I've been a weekend abuser of meph for 3 years on and off, I'll take months out then go back to 1 or 2 nights of use a week. I've got to a point where I'm bored of it now but it seems to be the only affordable stim in my area....what makes me feel completely naive is the amounts I polish away on a typical weekend, anything between 3-5 grams, sometimes more, sometimes less....I get extremely greedy with lines, it's only after last week that I read "less is more" did I actually believe less could be more.....I insufflated perhaps 150mg lines about 30 mins apart and got the same high from shoving half a gram up my poor nose. I have a friend who's a compete mess from injecting this stuff on a daily basis, he pins around 5g a day, when I read some of the posts on here about how 500mg is a maximum amount for a binge that anyone should take he was shocked. Also in my area it tested positive for crystal meth. Didn't even know that stuff was available, or is the compound similar?
 
was on the meph last night for the first time in a while, as pleasurable as it is, i still loath the stuff. I feel like iv been poisoned today and my nose is more fucked that it already was, need to go to the dr and get it sorted sometime :/
 
I've seen reports of people doing more or less just that. I've seen even more reports of 3-MMC use and they are uniformly bad reports. Nobody likes the stuff and is a tiny percentage given it's a drug in it's own right and a drug with a pretty high dose required to feel at all. The 3-MMC theory is bullshit. I strongly suspect much of the whole concept of pre and post ban being so very different is bullshit. It was the very same manufacturers making both until China banned meph a while back so not reason at all for there to be any difference beyond set and setting. I very much believe that is still the case. Lab results would appear to confirm this - meph is still meph, it's the mindset that's changed.

You're a million miles out.

If you think the 3-MMC theory is bs, go tell Fast&Bulbous.

Pre-ban meph is qualitatively different to post-ban. The only bullshit is from people CONSTANTLY saying "oh, it's nearly as good as pre-ban". There is no pre-ban and the stuff around now comes from chemists who apparently are more careful than the Chinese were so there are less impurities.

It has fuck all to do with set and setting. Meph isn't your drug, you constantly slag it off, and this post of yours shows you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to mephedrone.

That's not supposed to come over as harsh as it sounds Shambles, but I stand by what I say (if not the way I've said it)

Mephedrone has changed, it is far more of a straight amphetamine-like stimulant now and has lost that ecstasy like kick that people loved and gurned over about it.
 
Or its the other way around (from the decent stuff i tried awhile ago) no stimulant effects, lacking the rush, and kinda ecstasy-ish

Proper meph is amazing. someone i know has got decent stuff again
 
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You're a million miles out.

If you think the 3-MMC theory is bs, go tell Fast&Bulbous.

Pre-ban meph is qualitatively different to post-ban. The only bullshit is from people CONSTANTLY saying "oh, it's nearly as good as pre-ban". There is no pre-ban and the stuff around now comes from chemists who apparently are more careful than the Chinese were so there are less impurities.

It has fuck all to do with set and setting. Meph isn't your drug, you constantly slag it off, and this post of yours shows you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to mephedrone.

That's not supposed to come over as harsh as it sounds Shambles, but I stand by what I say (if not the way I've said it)

Mephedrone has changed, it is far more of a straight amphetamine-like stimulant now and has lost that ecstasy like kick that people loved and gurned over about it.

It does come over harsh considering Shambles is the soundest cunt on here, but i totally agree with the points your making albeit i think you could of phrased it in an easier sounding tone.

Pre-ban meph was a pretty special substance to most folk who had it. I have only ever had 1 lot of meph after the ban that hit the spot, but I believe it was leftovers from the legal days. Not had anything that comes close to preban for 2+ years. Not even had anything thats had that extremely distinct meph smell.
 
It does come over harsh considering Shambles is the soundest cunt on here, but i totally agree with the points your making albeit i think you could of phrased it in an easier sounding tone.

Pre-ban meph was a pretty special substance to most folk who had it. I have only ever had 1 lot of meph after the ban that hit the spot, but I believe it was leftovers from the legal days. Not had anything that comes close to preban for 2+ years. Not even had anything thats had that extremely distinct meph smell.

Aye I could, hence the mid-post apology

That's not supposed to come over as harsh as it sounds Shambles, but I stand by what I say (if not the way I've said it)

but as I say, and as you agree, the content if not the style is defendable. More than defendable. I'm right. ;)

And the tone kinda comes from, well, how can I put it nicely, I've always been tired of drug discrimination on this board. People come on here slagging off heroin, through ignorance (it's actually one of the safer drugs when pure) and because it isn't "their thing". And they rightly get told off for doing so. But ever since mephedrone came about it's been ok for the cool kids, even the soundest cunts on the board as you put it, to say meph is wank.

I remember F&B following, nay leading that line. And I also remember the PM I got off him when he'd finally got round/succumbed to trying a line. Blew his face off and he thought it was as special as everyone else who did it knew it was.

And I remember another top chemist, though his name escapes me (possibly began with V but not Vader, maybe it was, who knows) who constantly slammed mephedrone only to admit he had a secret agenda (which turned out to be correct) namely that what he was really pissed off about was that the explosion of mephedrone (which wasn't his drug) would lead to the banning of MDPV (which was his drug).

I don't come here to discriminate against any drug. There's a fair few I could but I'm not into drug snobbery. And that's what it is, drug snobbery. And maybe the style of my post would have been more forgiving if I didn't see the soundest cunt on the board (your words Swedge) constantly, constantly using the word mephedrone adjacent to the words 'wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick' (or whatever). Combined with a lack of understanding (through lack of personal experience) about the changing nature of mephedrone...well, it makes me angry of Tunbridge Wells.

But only for a second like. Gis a kiss Shammy. And let me stick some of this pre-ban up your arse.
 
Looks good man. Heard the yellow one is quality.
Never posted a picture of my Meph before but...


Is that what you guys mean by yellow? I mean it's more off-white really.
 
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You're a million miles out.

I sincerely doubt I'm quite that far out but will of course bow to actual experience over pontification as ever. It would seem that "preban/postban" is in somewhat similar situation to "tan/white" MDPV then. Early batches were tainted which provided additional perceived benefits over and above the later, purer form. That is something I can relate to for... what I just said.

I really can't see the 3-MMC theory being correct though. 3-MMC is univerally loathed by users and was only ever found in relatively tiny amounts in mephedrone. How does mixing what is more or less universally agreed to be a shitty excuse for a drug with what is widely accepted as a rather desirable drug equal a mindblowing drug? It makes no sense whatsoever. I am totally open to ideas of "dirty drugs" being potentially superior - at least subjectively - to purer forms as there are numerous examples of this being the case... but 3-MMC is dire by every account I've ever seen - almost all of which are from meph fans. Furthermore, people who have specifically mixed 3-MMC with 4-MMC trying to capture this supposed magic also report complete failure to do so. How does any of this add up to making a frankly bizarre theory "a million miles out"?

I am quite willing to accept I've been more than a little harsh in my comments in regards to mephedrone over the years. I'm also quite willing to accept I quite possibly overstated the health risks at certain times (although the jury remains out and none can be truly sure of that yet). I would continue to argue that my extreme adversity to this substance was brought about by a combination of partially personal dislike from my own use, but mostly as a direct result of what I saw it do to this community. It made EADD all but unreadable. It decimated this place. Aside from that all my personal issues in regards to faux empathy remain and those have always been what I have had the biggest issue with aside from my own experience of significant physical issues. I believe you mostly use meph as a sexdrug. I can see that. I can actually get that (not personally cos... acornism... but for those unaffected or able to find ways around have at it). That is not the type of meph use I've ever had a problem with nor spoken against. Given the ridiculous levels of use and popularity with barely a negative view ever seen around BL I don't think it unreasonable that I took against it quite so firmly. From my perspective it was making this forum a bad joke and is the only thing that's ever made me seriously consider leaving for good. Since there has been a more balanced picture around the place I have moderated my anti-meph talk considerably. It remains moderate but will retain honesty.

Pee Ess: Put it in my mouth rather than my arse and you may have a deal ;)
 
What is going on with this thread? Post count on main page says 619 but I can see 625 here.

Also the last two posts have been from Yoyo and Shambles and I can't see either of those posts here. Strange.
 
I noticed some freakery with post counts in threads earlier. Seems to have gone now but can only guess at it being some kinda weirdy-beardy issue that somebody with technical skills has been doing stuff with. Presumably stuff of vital importance. Or perhaps just faffing. Dunno but there was weird shit earlier in similar areas and has since gone so would consider it temporary.

My post was the tits - you should've seen it.
 
What's the issue with meph and here? Meph brought a lot of drug forums ALIVE. There must have been an increase in sign ups and posting during the meph years. I love looking back on those threads (on this forum and others) where people started discovering the Israeli stuff then meph. Crazy times, as the penny dropped that legal highs could be as good as illegal ones, and the best documention we'll have of when a drug (other than alcohol) became popular.
 
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