EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Megathread v. XV Pirate Flagship

[heerutosen]

btw. Just stick to small bumps to be safe and increase as you go.

I had a similar looking batch in the past a couple times. The yellow stuff usually felt milder on the comedown and a bit more serotonin/warm and less stimmy and commanding you to masturbate non stop.

Still had a good time on the stuff and dosing turned out to be around 250mg for full effect.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

You will know it's proper stuff after smelling the bag gently your looking for a pungent sweet cat piss smell

Nah. I wouldn't always go by smell. I've had stuff that smelt very meph-y but did very little. I've had stuff which didn't smell too strongly but got me proper fooked. I suspect the 'meph smell' is connected to a solvent or other chemical in the manufacturing process rather than meph itself?

 

[sulllyvan]

Damn, now THIS is addictive!

Eventually I snorted 50mg on the first day to make sure it's safe and effects are (preview of) expected.

The other day, for a full experience, we did 250mg and 150mg bombs.

Kicked in 30 minutes for me with a great rush of energy and horn, and MAN, this is exactly what I expected cocaine to be, but never got it. I'd say body effects are almost the same as with MDMA (with a bit less sensitivity maybe), everything else is cocaine, just more intense, energetic and, well, longer.

This is very narcissistic substance. We always do cuddling, hugging and kissing with my SO during rolls, and we love each other and the whole world. With mephedrone, I love myself, my body and I just want to fuck that bitch!

About fucking. I took 10mg of Cialis 2 hours before the trip, I got hard but it wasn't easy to maintain erection. Both for me and my SO, intimate parts weren't very sensitive, we fucked for some time but it was more of a filthy mental coitus than enjoying physical contact. Than I lost it and wasn't able to get it back by any means

And yeah, we redosed by snorting 50mg T+01:00, than another 50mg T+02:00. Overall duration was 3 hours followed by 1.5-2 hour long comedown which was not terrible but it was really tempting to do again and again while the peak lasted so that it would never end.

I definitely see how people get addicted to this, especially if there's some kind of depression and unresolved issues in their life.

Still had a good time on the stuff and dosing turned out to be around 250mg for full effect.

Saw this late but thanks for the advice - true.

 

[Wubb]

Wayyyy ! Glad you had a good time fella,

The addictiveness of meph is just pure evil, depression or not it takes hold very fast, it will turn the most honest man into a thieving junkie with a week
I've been (Happily) using crystal meth for about 6 months, even though you hear how evil and life destroying it is, it doesn't have anything on Mephedrone

 

[sulllyvan]

The addictiveness of meph is just pure evil, depression or not it takes hold very fast, it will turn the most honest man into a thieving junkie with a week

Definitely. I was thinking about that day practically all the time, constantly comparing myself to that euphoric, hyper confident state. Not feeling like shit as I am, just wondering how much different it was.

First thing I did the next morning was searching when the tolerance resets so that we can snort the remaining 250mg and have the same (but shorter) ride.

It'll be reasonable to buy 4MMC in small batches and only once in 2-3 months. Otherwise it can start controlling you instead of the opposite

I've been (Happily) using crystal meth for about 6 months, even though you hear how evil and life destroying it is, it doesn't have anything on Mephedrone

Whoa man. Hope you're able to keep your usage reasonable. After this video I'm kinda scared of crystal meth and don't think will try it even once.
Since you're familiar with both, how're they in terms of euphoria? I assume meth is more on a rough stimulation and focus side, while mephedrone is much more euphoric and hedonistic?

 

[Inso]

Never tried this stuff. Was not taking drugs during the boom.

How would you guys say it compares to cocaine? I've heard mixed opinions, that it's kind of halfway between MDMA and coke.

Thoughts?

 

[Wubb]

I assume meth is more on a rough stimulation and focus side, while mephedrone is much more euphoric and hedonistic?
^^ That's a pretty much word for word how id describe it

I could easily go nuts and lose a month or two, a job, girlfriend, accommodation, all my teeth, savings (meth is pretty awesome like that) I just do my best not to be a scum bag, I grew up around to many fuck heads to know that life isn't all about doing drugs, the way I see it drugs just make what ever you have going on much more enjoyable but should never the main focus. just depends if you like being awake for 30 hours a time and are somewhat resilient to psychosis I wouldn't give it to someone with mental health problems

Inso - I find it closer to MDMA than coke, Cocaine (and meth) I can do going about my day to day business and generally get stuff done without the overwhelming urge to throw some shapes.

I couldn't imagine going to the bank to discuss taking out a mortgage on Meph or MDMA (where as I did at the weekend on meth, got accepted too, woop)
Its much more of I cant hide the fact i'm fucked off my face drug than a functional stimulant

 

[Safrolette]

Never tried this stuff. Was not taking drugs during the boom.
How would you guys say it compares to cocaine? I've heard mixed opinions, that it's kind of halfway between MDMA and coke.
Thoughts?

Yes, I've heard the MDMA + coke paragon before but m-kat is different from both in my opinion. It's a unique substance in its own right. I don't have a lot of experience with coke but I have always found it somewhat too "subtle". That does not apply to 4-MMC.
Pre-ban mephedrone was unbelievably rushy, those intense waves of pure unadulterated pleasures are unforgettable... music appreciation was amazing, with certain genres more than others; music would induce wild rushing and the rushes would make music X 100 more enjoyable. The ego lift was something pretty powerful too (which is not necessary a good thing for certain people).
However, the most outstanding features for me were:
1) The fantasies you could create and live. I did meph mostly on my own, indoor, I liked it that way (and in that is quite different from MDMA), spending entire days dressing up and trying new looks and make-up. If I decided that I wanted to be Bianca Jagger at Studio 54 in 1977 all I needed was a coffee table book on disco fashion or Chris Von Wangenheim, my make-up beauty case, a pair of aviator sunglasses and platforms, et voila', a plug, a couple of lines and there I was, instantly transported in hedonistic '70s New York. One of the most democratic drugs ever - you could be in one of the dodgiest estates of some boarded up norther town and feel happier than a billionaire!
2) The way you could see certain sides of yourself, maybe your true self, even, I would say. See new possibilities, discover new angles. I miss that a lot. Often I wonder if the hipster phenomenon, a certain type of clothing, exposed skin, muscle and gym worship, tattoos, big lips, fake tans, lots of bling, that focus on looks and fashion which started around those 2007-2009 has something to do with the m-kat takeover.

 

[sulllyvan]

I just do my best not to be a scum bag, I grew up around to many fuck heads to know that life isn't all about doing drugs,

Stay strong! A good description of what meth is from someone on reddit:

Spoiler: quote

At first it'll be just a Friday night thing, then a weekend thing, then you'll use it to get more stuff done around the house. Before you know it you will need to have it when you wake up after those rare nights you actually made it to bed. You're not addicted though because you are able to go without it once or twice a week. Then one day a couple of months down the road at 4am you'll be installing a custom designed rotating toothbrush holder made out of hangers, brass fittings, a rc car motor, and 2 AA batteries that hangs from the ceiling of your bathroom. You'll hear the people that watch you from the vents in the ceiling talking about you and start flipping out only to realize you haven't slept for over a week.

Don't underestimate meth based on your experiences with cocaine, it is not the same drug.

So yeah, you definitely can't do your everyday activities on mephedrone, when pleasure is so overwhelming.

I don't have a lot of experience with coke but I have always found it somewhat too "subtle".

This. I've tried coke twice and thought maybe it wasn't very good, that's why I'm not feeling THE rush and THE euphoria. Mephedrone is way better in practically any sense.

And a big plus, you can't overdose on meph as easily as with coke, which is very important given such a more-ish nature of the drug.

 

[Wubb]

Hahahahahahah fucking love it, I know what i'm doing next time I get a bag of shard, my tooth brush holder is gunna be so dope, unfortunately i'm going through some personal shit atm so i'm not currently using anything (apart from weed) I believe that's the key to MY drug use at least, I never get high when depressed, again apart from weed.
Don't worry about me fella I've been a speed freak for 17 odd years, I've got it down to a t. Now then where did I leave my brass fittings

Stay strong! A good description of what meth is from someone on reddit:

Spoiler: quote

At first it'll be just a Friday night thing, then a weekend thing, then you'll use it to get more stuff done around the house. Before you know it you will need to have it when you wake up after those rare nights you actually made it to bed. You're not addicted though because you are able to go without it once or twice a week. Then one day a couple of months down the road at 4am you'll be installing a custom designed rotating toothbrush holder made out of hangers, brass fittings, a rc car motor, and 2 AA batteries that hangs from the ceiling of your bathroom. You'll hear the people that watch you from the vents in the ceiling talking about you and start flipping out only to realize you haven't slept for over a week.

Don't underestimate meth based on your experiences with cocaine, it is not the same drug.

 

[heerutosen]

Crazy strong stuff going a round. I just received bathes from 2 different vendors. Came back as 98 and 99 percent. Lowest i could find from them was 95%.

I have a massive tolerance, but still enjoyed myself also added a little bit of Methylone which was pretyy nice. Search and ye wll find. Too bad i lost 500 euro in scams, but this more than makes op for it.

Now if only i could keep my breaks longer . Feels like a waste using it this way. Tried adding NAC to stop the cravings, but minimal effect. Any other natural supps you guys know of that could help?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Damn heerutoson id love to get enough to have a bath of mephedrone, lucky bastard. That much meph must be making the whole neighborhood smell like that lovely cat piss smell.

?

 

[heerutosen]

Hahaha yeah it's an asault to the senses. How long do you think my break should be?

I started in 2006 en could last 5 hours on 125mg. I went about 4-6 thimes a year and after the first year all of a sudden i needed a lot more for the same effect. But the duration would be shorter.

Not a big fan of redosing all night, so i switched to the apbs en 4fa, but eventualy that dit nothing aswell. Drone seemed to be the only thing working. Also the only one where you somehow always do more than plannend lol.

Really have to put everything away once you stash for the evening is prepared xD

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

With these kinds of chems the only way that worked for me was to take out the amount I wanted to use then package up the rest and mail it to myself. Otherwise I'd use it all till it was gone. The package would have to be dropped in the mail before I begin otherwise I'd change my mind, rip it open and go nuts.

How long should your breaks between binges be? Guess it depends on what your trying to accomplish?

1)If you want to be a total druggie but still give yourself some delusion of being in control then take 1-2 days off.

2)if you want to party somewhat regularly but still attempt to live a normal life then breaks could be like 1-2 weeks.

3)better would be a break of like a month or more, addiction and other problems are so much less likely with once a month frequency. Plus once you do use again it is that much sweeter for having waited.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Ah I reread, you want to break for tolerance lowerage? Stim tolerance goes away pretty quickly usually but not sure with meph specifically because it does have some serotonin action right? But people seem to be able to go pretty hard on it frequently so I don't know. You said you used to use 4-6 times a year, yea? This seems like a good frequency if you ask me.

Unfortunately though you can develope some permanent tolerance to stims, so even with substantial time off (years) things never go completely back to the way it used to be...

 

[Safrolette]

Crazy strong stuff going a round. I just received bathes from 2 different vendors. Came back as 98 and 99 percent. Lowest i could find from them was 95%.

Very envious but at the same time pleased to hear that there is still some good pure stuff around, thanks for sharing the good news. Four-six times a year sounds like the perfect frequency to me (y)

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I'd still like to have enough to be able to take a bath in. Scratch that, I'd probably waste away...

 

[heerutosen]

I should've been a bit more clear. I've used MDMA 4-6 times a year in the past. It started like that with Meph at first, but it soon became every month and then every weekend atleast 1 day.

Fortunately i snapped out of that pretty quickly. Longest break i've taken since is 5 weeks and it barely did anything. So even though i know i will have a subpar experience i still have the urge.

So i have always taken frequent 1 month breaks, but in my case this does nothing for tolerance. After my holiday i plan to quit untill next year. Put it behind lock and key lol.

 

[Ganjcat]

Definitely. I was thinking about that day practically all the time, constantly comparing myself to that euphoric, hyper confident state. Not feeling like shit as I am, just wondering how much different it was.

First thing I did the next morning was searching when the tolerance resets so that we can snort the remaining 250mg and have the same (but shorter) ride.

It'll be reasonable to buy 4MMC in small batches and only once in 2-3 months. Otherwise it can start controlling you instead of the opposite



Whoa man. Hope you're able to keep your usage reasonable. After this video I'm kinda scared of crystal meth and don't think will try it even once.
Since you're familiar with both, how're they in terms of euphoria? I assume meth is more on a rough stimulation and focus side, while mephedrone is much more euphoric and hedonistic?

i never suffered from that nearly as much as my friends did the fiendishness crack like thing, I did notice diminishing returns the bigger line i had the even bigger one id have to have next but even then i just sniff bigger line if i know the partys still going on for 20 mins then go home, get changed and have some food I like the come down feeling you get it makes your legs feel heavy kinda like opiates oh btw i reccomend if your sniffing instead f having lines have tiny little keys or piles give it a minute and if its not doing it have another one trust me your wasting it sniffing loads

 

[sulllyvan]

A weird thing happened yesterday.

We've had 250mg of mephedrone left from the last time, so we've made two lines and snorted 125mg each. High was nice but short, and we were drinking alcohol along with it.

Once the effects were starting to wear off, we've decided to snort 12mg of 2CB (because, well, we didn't have more meph but wanted at least some high to continue). Aaaand we've felt... nothing. Yes, after 1-1.5 hours, "effects" were kind of like VERY weak weed, nothing like the 2CB we know.

How can this be explained? We've dropped 100ug of acid 3 days ago and acid does have cross tolerance with 2cb, but to the degree that we felt practically nothing from a solid dose of the latter substance?