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EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...

fairnymph said:
I actually use a nasal solution (made daily). I used to use a nasal spray bottle but it was constantly getting clogged so now I just use a dropper.

Morphine was the first pain med my NYC doctor prescribed me, and because I didn’t want to become physically dependent, I only used it every third day. But after less than three months on it, I developed hyperalgesia, which unfortunately has never gone away. But that’s crazy that morphine has no effect on you! There are a lot of drugs, especially OTC, that have no or very little effect on me - but not any of the opiates. Alprazolam is not remotely sedating & almost gives me a panic attack though. I wonder why morphine is the only strong analgesic on hand in the UK. Is it typical for their only to be one on hand in every country? I have no clue.
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No, there is an 'exciting' selection of opioids listed in the BNF. But for various reasons it was concluded thay my options were oxycodone or methadone (tablets).

-Patches won't stick
-Buprenorphine causes severe anxiety and ended up with my suffering a seizure
-Codeine - not strong enough
-DHC - ditto
-Tapentadol not recommended for people with epilepsy
-Hydromorphone is a morphine derivative & doesn't work

There are a few short-acting opioids but above is the list useful for chronic pain.

Funny how we are noting that many older medicines are still better than the new ones. Morphine and diazepam is likely much safer than alprazolam and fentanyl.
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fairnymph said:
Jinx! So you experience hyperalgesia but only when you take it at high doses? Can you go into more detail as to how and when you develop it? How long does it take to go away or do you just need to go down in dose or what? I think that my intermittent use of morphine is why developed hyperalgesia (there’s research supporting this) & likely it is playing a role in your case too.

I assume that mine is permanent because I’m always getting some morphine since h converts in solution.
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Well, I do not take high doses of opioids, but I have taken small doses for years. I do it for mood more than pain but I appreciate the pain relief. When I say small, I mean 2.5 mg of hydrocodone or oxycodone like once or twice in a week. I mean, I have taken higher doses (5 mg) at times but not really high. I think most of the more experienced drug users on BL would sneer at my doses, but I actually get a very pleasant little high from what I do and it takes the edge off my pain and depression.
What I have started doing over the past year, though, is to take Kratom pretty regularly, several times a week on average, but weeks more often and then abstaining from all drugs for a few weeks or more. Again, my kratom dose is pretty low, like around 2.5 g. Lately I realized that I can get a nice feeling just off of 1 g, though, so I'm cutting back.
Anyhow, I switch it up between these different drugs and I don't see any tolerance increase, but I have persistent pain in my knees and may end up getting surgery. And, you know, I'm older, I've abused my knees, I have some arthritis, so it makes sense that I could have pain. I just don't know if my opioid intake has made it worse
But this is a problem that could apply to many people even if it may not to me.
 
4DQSAR said:
No, there is an 'exciting' selection of opioids listed in the BNF. But for various reasons it was conclude thay my options were oxycodone or methadone (tablets).

-Patches won't stick
-Buprenorphine causes severe anxiety and ended up with my suffering a seizure
-Codeine - not strong enough
-DHC - ditto
-Tapentadol not recommended for people with epilepsy
-Hydromorphone is a morphine derivative & doesn't work

There are a few short-acting opioids but above is the list useful for chronic pain.

Funny how we are noting that many older medicines are still better than the new ones. Morphine and diazepam is likely much safer than alprazolam and fentanyl.
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Oh God, I hate bupe. Absolutely intolerable stuff. Also hate tapentadol, tilidine, tramadol, and other such weak, weird synthetic opioids. All of those give me really nasty side-effects without doing much for pain.

How does hydromorphone not work but oxycodone does?! They are both morphine based. Have you tried heroin?

Yep, and Prozac is still the best SSRI! Benadryl still seems to be the most useful all-around antihistamine, though it’s one of those mysterious drugs that has no effect. Maybe all the low hanging good fruit has been picked, at least with the current dysgenic IQ decline.
 
chippermonk said:
Well, I do not take high doses of opioids, but I have taken small doses for years. I do it for mood more than pain but I appreciate the pain relief. When I say small, I mean 2.5 mg of hydrocodone or oxycodone like once or twice in a week. I mean, I have taken higher doses (5 mg) at times but not really high. I think most of the more experienced drug users on BL would sneer at my doses, but I actually get a very pleasant little high from what I do and it takes the edge off my pain and depression.
What I have started doing over the past year, though, is to take Kratom pretty regularly, several times a week on average, but weeks more often and then abstaining from all drugs for a few weeks or more. Again, my kratom dose is pretty low, like around 2.5 g. Lately I realized that I can get a nice feeling just off of 1 g, though, so I'm cutting back.
Anyhow, I switch it up between these different drugs and I don't see any tolerance increase, but I have persistent pain in my knees and may end up getting surgery. And, you know, I'm older, I've abused my knees, I have some arthritis, so it makes sense that I could have pain. I just don't know if my opioid intake has made it worse
But this is a problem that could apply to many people even if it may not to me.
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Yeah, that doesn’t sound like hyperalgesia to me. I don’t claim to be an expert on it but for me, it’s quite obvious. But I do think it’s possible that you have it because I was taking max 45 mg of morphine daily every third day when I developed mine. I wonder if maybe hyperalgesia would be less obvious to you because you get pleasant effects from the drug even without the pain relief?

For me one way that it’s obvious that I have hyperalgesia, is that if I take more, the pain gets even worse. That doesn’t seem to be the case for you. What have you tried for inflammation? I really recommend trying black seed (nigella sativa) oil with the highest percentage thymoquinone that you can find. It is miraculous for inflammation and any type of microbial infection. It’s better than ibuprofen ime! Give it a go. I also technically have been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, since the age of eight actually, but as far as I can tell I don’t actually have any symptoms and I think that’s because I have such a powerful anti-inflammation diet & lifestyle.
 
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Thanks for the tips. I don't really know what black seed oil is, I'll have to look it up. I've been going with fish oil and turmeric/ black pepper lately. Dunno yet but I've been feeling better. Of course I also started with the naproxen.
 
chippermonk said:
Thanks for the tips. I don't really know what black seed oil is, I'll have to look it up. I've been going with fish oil and turmeric/ black pepper lately. Dunno yet but I've been feeling better. Of course I also started with the naproxen.
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You can get it on Amazon. Fish oil is great, but most brands use rancid oil. They’re very prone to oxidation alas. But Carlson is legit - I’ve personally tested it. Turmeric/piperine is powerful, but black seed oil is even better. Just make sure to get the highest percentage thymoquinone because that’s the active ingredient. And only take it on a full stomach because it can cause nausea or diarrhoea otherwise. It doesn’t taste great so I always eat something right after or brush my teeth. Just taking it occasionally has completely eradicated in my menstrual cramps which used to require max dose ibuprofen every three hours and that still didn’t completely get rid of the pain. I’ve used it to treat dental abscesses that a week on antibiotics didn’t cure, severe ear infections, cellulitis (nasty deep tissue skin infection), UTIs…
 
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fairnymph said:
You can get it on Amazon. Fish oil is great, but most brands use rancid oil.
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Oh, don't. My grandparents insisted I swallow a tablespoon of cod liver oil every day. The taste, the odour, the fact it's oil taken from the liver of a fish.
 
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Oh, back in the day we didn't have those fancy pants capsules - it was like every kid was performing a Jackass-like stunt each day of their childhood.

Once tated, never forgotten.

Lemon seems an odd choic. On reflection, I guess it's no more odd than any other flavour they could have chosen...
 
4DQSAR said:
Oh, back in the day we didn't have those fancy pants capsules - it was like every kid was performing a Jackass-like stunt each day of their childhood.

Once tated, never forgotten.

Lemon seems an odd choic. On reflection, I guess it's no more odd than any other flavour they could have chosen...
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Yeah, kids were actually given hardship endresponsibility instead of coddled into mental and physical weakness.

Doesn’t actually taste or even smell like lemon - I think it’s just a nice strong flavour (and a naturally occurring essential oil) to counteract the fishiness. Pretty sure all the fish oils I’ve seen that are flavoured are citrus. And I’m glad because I love citrus. Peppermint flavoured fish oil sounds gross. Cinnamon sounds gross. I mean all fish oilsounds gross but doesn’t citrus somehow sound better than those other options?
 
Thanks for the input buddy but I think it’s the ritualistic nature of the whole little routine I have had since my early teens (mid 90s) which started with chico then E then back to chico (forgot about the speed at high school too) And up until I was almost thirty I actually thought what was the point of taking painkillers or other legal prescription drugs recreationally when you could take a real drug like E and Shrooms and LSD. Then one day I started working with a guy who became a best buddy a guy could have (God rest his soul) pulled out a huge matchbox full of 30mg codeine tablets which we spent the rest of the day sniffing tabs and taking some hot skanks a cruise in the work van to the beach. That day was a blessing and a curse for me as it started a very long friendship with both him as a best friend and the whole wonderful new world of prescription opioids and benzo. Amazing times we had the job was a holiday that you actually wanted to go to and have a laugh getting wasted with your buddies working heavy plant and causing carnage while getting a good wage for it for about nine years
So I suppose you could say it’s part nostalgia and part habit these days but I swear I enjoy them more snorting. I never sniff benzo or gabapentin though as I see it as near pointless
Sorry for the long winded answer but it’s the first Iv ever given it much deep thought
Plus I’m higher than a pilot’s lunch box just now llh
Peace out brother
Nightraver
 
4DQSAR said:
Snorting heroin - that is SO old school ;-)

Everyone is different. Morphine has no effect on me. That's why I was prescribed oxycodone. But in the UK, the only strong analgesic available to paramedics is morphine. I know; found out the hard way. Surgery followed by no analgesia, not fun.
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I’m old so 💁🏼‍♂️
 
Very potent gear, been ages since I had something that I felt tingling in my face after the first line.
Made my legs flick out from the initial rush feeling, well impressed with this gear.
 
That Motherfucking Cunt who's been selling this Benzo cut Heroin got me sick as a Dog with Rabies right now.
Back HURTS like I been swinging a Pickaxe all day & I am SOAKED in Sweat under my jumper by my armpits, those cold shocks keep coming up & down my Spine which make you nearly twist outta your skin.

Nose is literally RUNNING snot like a broken tap, it's not dripping it is literally streaming outta me & my eyes ain't much better, this fucking sucks!!!!!!!!!
 
If he didn't have a guy to keep his boys in order who goes by the name John Wick I'd deal with him myself.
This is bullshit, I need someone who's called John Wick too to deal with this Fucking Cunt, I'd have him dealt with before 6PM tonight.
 
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