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EADD Heroin thread v.XXIV -- welcome back, PinkPapaver!

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It's from the days of apothecaries where they pretty much did just mix a load of stuff together, I'm sure we've all seen the crazy medicines they used to sell just a century ago full of chloroform, cocaine, and opium sold as a cure-all for everything.

On that topic I'm planning a trip to the Royal Pharmaceutical Society Museum soon where they showcase all that old timey stuff and tell you about the history, should be very interesting for someone interested in drugs.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
It's from the days of apothecaries where they pretty much did just mix a load of stuff together, I'm sure we've all seen the crazy medicines they used to sell just a century ago full of chloroform, cocaine, and opium sold as a cure-all for everything.

On that topic I'm planning a trip to the Royal Pharmaceutical Society Museum soon where they showcase all that old timey stuff and tell you about the history, should be very interesting for someone interested in drugs.
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That sounds brilliant. I distinctly remember my mum taking a very young me to the chemists in the late 1960s. It was exactly like the pictures you see of the old apothecaries - full of dark wood shelving and glass fronted cabinets housing row upon row of Interesting jars and bottles, with the pharmacist visible at the back in his white coat and surrounded by brass balances, pestle and mortars and mysterious glassware. I knew then that I wanted to be that guy. Alas, it wasn't to be. I gave up chemistry in the third year of grammar school because we were expected to learn the whole periodic table without any explanation of atomic numbers, weights and valences. I've never been able to learn stuff by rote without a thorough understanding. It wasn't until much later when I took several chemistry modules in my degree that it all made sense.

In hindsight though, it's perhaps a good thing I never became a pharmacist - I'd either be dead or in prison by now... :\
 
Hey has anyone experienced a full on bad trip after injection of supposed H? Lasted 45 min was absolutely terrifying. Couldn't get out of my car.
 
Zombiemuerte666 said:
Hey has anyone experienced a full on bad trip after injection of supposed H? Lasted 45 min was absolutely terrifying. Couldn't get out of my car.
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By 'bad trip', do you mean an hallucinogenic experience or just feeling like utter shit? If the latter, then yes, many times. Used to be known as 'cotton fever' as it was thought to be caused by injecting fibres from the filter, but I don't think that has ever been proven. Symptoms I've experienced are an itchy rash, racing heart, profuse sweating, headache, nausea, fever and total dysphoria. I often thought I was overdosing, but it is qualitatively different to an overdose and passes after about an hour. I've no idea why it happens - whether it's due to a particular cut or just a 'bad reaction'. But it is very common.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Isn't Oxy terrible compared to heroin?
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That's purely down to personal preference. A lot of Yanks will tell you oxy is better than heroin. Personally I've had mixed results out of oxy, I find it plenty strong but not too euphoric in all honesty.

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ffs, that made me spit my fucking drink out & some came out my nose.
I just paid my last ?1.30 for this can of Monster too :\
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The price of Monster is a fucking shambles! The local supermarkets are charging ?1.80 for the fucking stuff! There's only one shop near me that's charging the reasonable price of ?1 but that's a sale that will surely expire.

You can blame the government's new nanny state sugar tax I imagine.

Just got back from the pharma museum and it was brilliant, highly recommend a visit for anyone around London. Lots of interesting historical medicines including cough drops containing cocaine and diamorphine, chlorodyne, laudanum, and a giant bottle of poppy pods. They also had more recent history like the original branded Valium boxes, Valium injection liquid, and Oramorph bottles, along with the really historic shit like bottles of bones that were mixed to create medicines like witches brewing potions.

All I can say is I wouldn't mind having a cough 100 years ago...
 
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That's purely down to personal preference. A lot of Yanks will tell you oxy is better than heroin. Personally I've had mixed results out of oxy, I find it plenty strong but not too euphoric in all honesty.



The price of Monster is a fucking shambles! The local supermarkets are charging ?1.80 for the fucking stuff! There's only one shop near me that's charging the reasonable price of ?1 but that's a sale that will surely expire.

You can blame the government's new nanny state sugar tax I imagine.

Just got back from the pharma museum and it was brilliant, highly recommend a visit for anyone around London. Lots of interesting historical medicines including cough drops containing cocaine and diamorphine, chlorodyne, laudanum, and a giant bottle of poppy pods. They also had more recent history like the original branded Valium boxes, Valium injection liquid, and Oramorph bottles, along with the really historic shit like bottles of bones that were mixed to create medicines like witches brewing potions.

All I can say is I wouldn't mind having a cough 100 years ago...
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Monster is a quid in my local Asda...

Isn't it funny how when opium, morphine, diamorphine, cocaine, cannabis etc. were freely available in every street corner chemist shop, we didn't have a 'drug problem'? No doubt there were many addicts, but as we all know, the most significant problem with addiction is intermittent and unreliable supply. These folk could consistently get what they needed when they needed it at an affordable price - until that yank cunt Harry Anslinger founded the 'war on drugs' to justify his position after the repeal of alcohol prohibition, putting pressure on the rest of the world to follow suit. We should have just told him to fuck off...
 
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Isn't it funny how when opium, morphine, diamorphine, cocaine, cannabis etc. were freely available in every street corner chemist shop, we didn't have a 'drug problem'? No doubt there were many addicts, but as we all know, the most significant problem with addiction is intermittent and unreliable supply. These folk could consistently get what they needed when they needed it at an affordable price - until that yank cunt Harry Anslinger founded the 'war on drugs' to justify his position after the repeal of alcohol prohibition, putting pressure on the rest of the world to follow suit. We should have just told him to fuck off...
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One of the most true things I have seen in some time & strange I only said 100% the same thing only a few days ago.

until that yank cunt Harry Anslinger founded the 'war on drugs' to justify his position
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That guy is pure evil in my view, what the American folks pushed into law after the Harrison Marijunana Tax Reform Act which caused the control of morphine etc was nothing short of pure evil, fuck it blame the Turks & the Egyptians & still toss blame at the Mexicans & blacks for giving the white women their "Killer Mahirujana" that makes them wanna go to be-bob clubs & dance the moves of Satan with the Negro GOD FORBID!!!

To quote from Dr John Dent who was the first to use Bupe to treat UK addicts back when legal scripts were around "What the American narcotic people are doing is bad, very bad"
 
Anyone on here had DVT before from way too much 2ml use?.........

1) If so how painful is it?

2)What is the worst thing that could happen to you?

3) How long does it take to fix up?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Monster is a quid in my local Asda...

Isn't it funny how when opium, morphine, diamorphine, cocaine, cannabis etc. were freely available in every street corner chemist shop, we didn't have a 'drug problem'? No doubt there were many addicts, but as we all know, the most significant problem with addiction is intermittent and unreliable supply. These folk could consistently get what they needed when they needed it at an affordable price - until that yank cunt Harry Anslinger founded the 'war on drugs' to justify his position after the repeal of alcohol prohibition, putting pressure on the rest of the world to follow suit. We should have just told him to fuck off...
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No Asda near me :(

And I couldn't agree more. You can easily look at Portugal and see that when you even just decriminalise drugs and treat addiction as a health issue not a criminal one, ODs and drug use itself both go way down.

If politicians gave a single toss about evidence based policy the data is right there showing the failure of the "war on drugs."

But they know this and don't care, the thing is wars against inanimate objects and vague concepts (drugs, terrorism) are useful political tools for establishing further control by pitting people against each other.

Today's real irony drugs-wise is the very thin line between medical and recreational use of pharmaceuticals. I'm literally prescribed speed for crying out loud. If anyone tells you that pharma speed doesn't get them high they're a liar. The NHS has no problem providing this to me. They've also given me opiates many times with no questions asked. But cannabis, oh no we can't have that, it destroys lives don't you know?
 
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Today's real irony drugs-wise is the very thin line between medical and recreational use of pharmaceuticals. I'm literally prescribed speed for crying out loud. If anyone tells you that pharma speed doesn't get them high they're a liar. The NHS has no problem providing this to me. They've also given me opiates many times with no questions asked. But cannabis, oh no we can't have that, it destroys lives don't you know?
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True. I really do question the validity of a medical system that prescribes potent amphetamines to children from the age of 7, only to completely cut them off at the age of 18 unless they can demonstrate adult ADD/ADHD. Furthermore, I question what doctors are actually taught...
 
a mate swung by like usual on his giro day to help me out till I am paid, I am sorted atm for a small while.

6 zopi's 7.5mg each for free :)
1 bag on strap though but it is nice gear, I still got a small bit stashed away for tonight.

I got a lick off the pipe when he arrived & scored again later on, instead of having another lick I decided to shoot this one, my god I think I will never smoke rock again as the IV route is just so nice compared to a smoke. (I am NOT telling anyone it is "better" or to let people think they should inject it also. I know this is for harm reduction so just because I am in love with this ROA I suggest others don't follow my example)

Damn.........

The same guy just rang me & we're going in 50/50 on 2 white & 1 b, today is gonna be a great day, some really clean white banged & then some decent b to smoke over a cuppa tea or two. Have a good day folks wherever you are at or whatever you're getting into.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
True. I really do question the validity of a medical system that prescribes potent amphetamines to children from the age of 7, only to completely cut them off at the age of 18 unless they can demonstrate adult ADD/ADHD. Furthermore, I question what doctors are actually taught...
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Not to mention we've only recently accepted that adult ADHD even exists in the UK. That's why even though Adderall was developed by a British pharma company, Shire, it was never sold here. When it was brand new, the US was beginning to accept adult ADHD so that lucrative market was there. It took decades for us to do the same. The same pharma company made Vyvanse and that got released in the UK, decades later, because we're now finally accepting adults can have ADHD.

In practice though good luck getting an adult ADHD diagnosis on the NHS. Hope you like long waiting lists. I couldn't even see a psychiatrist on the NHS when they thought I was about to kill myself. They don't give a toss about your inability to concentrate.

And even if they did, the psychiatrist you see must be an ADHD specialist, so your options are limited further still. There's a small number of ADHD specialists on the NHS and a long waiting list of patients to see them.

Private becomes the only real option.

Thankfully though once you do see a specialist the actual diagnosis isn't hard to get. But the whole ordeal is such a pain on the NHS that ADHD is in practice very under-treated in this country.

A fair few of my mates have read the ADHD symptoms, realised they probably have it, seen a specialist privately and got a diagnosis. And most of them didn't even know adults could have ADHD before I told them I had it.
 
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