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EADD Heroin Discussion V18 - Wax on-Wax off-Beetle-down-Beetle up (Hiyer zaramorph)

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Yesterday we buried my uncle-he died from liver failure after many years of heavy drinking
never really knew the guy as every time we would go to see my aunt and my cousins,he was off down the pub-even on christmas day when we visited
It is a horrible way to die-slowly and painfully
just to make it even more traumatic,we had to open up the grave of my cousin(his son)to bury them together
he(the cousin) had been 18 when he died 11 years ago-had been sitting on his driveway in a car talking to a mate when two drivers racing their cars from one pub to the next came by-one guy lost control and demolished a bus shelter before ending up embedded into my 18yr old cousin.
The whole event was very strained as there is a lot of in-fighting between all the different families.
I was only really upset because of reopening the grave and having to remember the kid and his awful death.
More than any of the people involved,whether drink-driving or drinking yourself to death-I can't help but blame alcohol.It is a deadly and costs this country a fortune-A&E on a fri/sat night is just rammed with drunks-as is the police station.You don't see many drug admissions-Gear ODs only requite a narcan jab which can be done and usually is done by paramedics at the scene-other drugs have their own dangers but alcohol is by far the most costly incidence for the NHS-whether it be drunks in A&E or chronic drinkers in clinics waiting and hoping for someone prepared to not pickle their own liver and offer it for someone else to use to save their life.I have heard it said here before and I know a lot of yous enjoy a can or 2 and I too have a few wines on the weekend,but it is nuts how it is fine to advertise alcohol openly-and the whole culture here promotes alcohol.At christmas time and your place of employment arranges a night out drinking-or you visit a relative and they all offer you alcoholic drinks-binge drinking(what we used to call getting pissed/lashed),comes into it's own at christmas.Advertised on TV,billboards-everywhere-there is no escape and I always think it must be so hard to try and quit drinking if you are dependent-you only have to nip to your corner shop for some milk for your cuppa and it is there,pushed right into your face.The demon drink is a plague on this country and (sorry if this sounds racist) IMO one of the few things the muslim law has right.
 
ive come off the gear again. was on for 5 weeks or so. Today is the end of day 7 and im feeling much better. Only problem is my stomach hurts like hell started yesterday morning.. Im not sure if its acid indigestion. Rennies seem of little help. I had been eating fine until day 5. Now this pain is keeping me awake. I ate a lot of tablets this week., 16 D5s, 10 D10s and 28 zopiclone. Could this have fucked my stomack lining?

im worried ibuprofen will aggravate the stomach problem. any insights please?

hope everyone well.
 
Omeprazole might help? Not sure if that is only available from Doc? Probiotics might help too even in Yoghurt or drink form. I've never tried the big H but from various other serious health and stomach type problems I have had (in the past) I was prescribed Omeprazole to protect my stomach lining from the vast quantities of Ibuprofen and other meds. It on it's own helped my problems too-worth a look at?

Ibuprofen alone and in quantity will certainly effect stomach lining/make current possible probs worse.8(

(was just interested in this thread sorry if this info is useless as I have no experience of what your going through)
 
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inflorescence said:
Omeprazole might help? Not sure if that is only available from Doc? Probiotics might help too even in Yoghurt or drink form. I've never tried the big H but from various other serious health and stomach type problems I have had (in the past) I was prescribed Omeprazole to protect my stomach lining from the vast quantities of Ibuprofen and other meds. It on it's own helped my problems too-worth a look at?

(was just interested in this thread sorry if this info is useless as I have no experience of what your going through)
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Thanks for the idea. i think my father has a script from fucking up his stomach with too many nuerofen plus.

Would 1 a day for a few days be a good idea that might help some?
 
Tryptamite said:
Thanks for the idea. i think my father has a script from fucking up his stomach with too many nuerofen plus.

Would 1 a day for a few days be a good idea that might help some?
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I really don't know. I was on them for ages and popping them like smarties with high dose Ibuprofen and occasional oral morphine for my medical problems a while back. Thing is you need to put the 'good' bacteria back in yer gut too so was taking probiotic tabs after...yakult/yoghurt with it in -crazy as it may sound may help neutralize acid and help??? Wishing you better however you proceed.
 
it gets worse as i lie down. i wake up with the pain. thanks dude ill try both and see if it helps!!
 
omperazole...little known specific potentiator of etizolam (and some other opiates and other benzos) ;)

aside from that it is life-saver for many people I know
 
Tryptamite said:
it gets worse as i lie down. i wake up with the pain. thanks dude ill try both and see if it helps!!
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I get this every time I do a rattle
heartburn when i lie down
the doc also gave me Omeprazole but I think it has to be prescribed
1x20mg tablet a day should sort it and they work pretty much right away
an extra Rennie here and there can help too
I think it is just pre-existing stomach probs that the gear masks but when you stop using,it comes back
 
KKat that was an excellent post you made about Alcohol .

THe 2nd bit not your family's woes .

chronic drinkers in clinics waiting and hoping for someone prepared to not pickle their own liver and offer it for someone else to use to save their life.
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This line in particular .

I haven't drank for a few months now probably the longest period in my adult life n feel so much better for it .
 
brimz said:
KKat that was an excellent post you made about Alcohol .

THe 2nd bit not your family's woes .



This line in particular .

I haven't drank for a few months now probably the longest period in my adult life n feel so much better for it .
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I have gone through months of time drinking heavily (half a case of super ciders,2 btls of wine and 1 btl of vodka every day),and by rights,I should have been addicted,but somehow I have managed to keep control of it.Whenever I have wanted to,I have just said to myself 'that's it for now' and quit for next 6-12 months or so.
I know I have been very lucky as I have alcoholic friends and I have seen them go through hell trying to quit-in fact the ones that I know who have quit have usually traded alcohol for gear and vice versa.I think the alcohol is more dangerous and cannot be 'banned' by the government cos of the enormous amount of revenue it creates.Oh the taxpayer sire has to pay his dues if he wants to drink,alright.Imagine if they taxed gear?I suppose that of they did,at least there would have to be a reliable and controlled(so you know what you are getting) supply-sounds lush but anyways.I have seen that alcoholics get priority in terms of access to detox and that this is because coming off gear you sure feel like you are going to die,but it is unlikely-coming off alcohol means you may well die so needs to be supervised and have access to medical care.As I say,I have never suffered alcohol detox but I am told it is horrific-I just cannot imagine anything being worse than a gear rattle.
 
I had a black mercedes after the blue fiat ( one extreme to other) bloody estate it looked like a hurse. After that it was a blue estate, the sisters of mercy owned it before me.. when my dad told me that i thought he meant the band but it was the nuns.
 
So I'm over my gear withdrawals. Also off the pregabalin, which was easy to jump off at 100mg whilst on the gear as heroin cures all, as we all know.

But now as the build up of Valium is leaving my system I fear I'm in for some benzo WD or rebound effects. I can't sleep and have GI issues. I had quite heavy amount of Valium and zimovane for 7 days straight. I've had benzo WDs before after a long binge and they were horrible and drawn out.

I took a 200mg pregabalin today and feel a bit better. Obviously that's not an option tomorrow if I want to avoid dependency again.

I am thinking to buy a few Valium and do a fast taper? Probably not possible to get them until Tuesday. Should I just stick it out? I am so close to being not dependent on anything and really want to be free whilst continuing to use drugs responsibly.

I could have phenibut by Thursday or even Wednesday. It's gaba b I know but I think I'd rather let my GABA alone for a while.

Probably a 150-200mg codeine CWE would be stupid @ 10 days off the gear???

Any other options?

Btw I am going to experiment with recommended doses of tianeptine for anxiety and "depression". It had no effect orally while i was on the gear. Even IV I had to take huge doses to feel it. Like 300mg. Don't worry it wasn't pills I was shooting!

Will be interesting to see the effects orally without an opiate tolerance.
 
Tryptamite said:
So I'm over my gear withdrawals. Also off the pregabalin, which was easy to jump off at 100mg whilst on the gear as heroin cures all, as we all know.

But now as the build up of Valium is leaving my system I fear I'm in for some benzo WD or rebound effects. I can't sleep and have GI issues. I had quite heavy amount of Valium and zimovane for 7 days straight. I've had benzo WDs before after a long binge and they were horrible and drawn out.

I took a 200mg pregabalin today and feel a bit better. Obviously that's not an option tomorrow if I want to avoid dependency again.

I am thinking to buy a few Valium and do a fast taper? Probably not possible to get them until Tuesday. Should I just stick it out? I am so close to being not dependent on anything and really want to be free whilst continuing to use drugs responsibly.

I could have phenibut by Thursday or even Wednesday. It's gaba b I know but I think I'd rather let my GABA alone for a while.

Probably a 150-200mg codeine CWE would be stupid @ 10 days off the gear???

Any other options?

Btw I am going to experiment with recommended doses of tianeptine for anxiety and "depression". It had no effect orally while i was on the gear. Even IV I had to take huge doses to feel it. Like 300mg. Don't worry it wasn't pills I was shooting!

Will be interesting to see the effects orally without an opiate tolerance.
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Actually I'm gonna go to the doc and get some knock outs like zispin or amitryptiline so I can sleep, then stick outr the rest.
 
Thanks mate. I'm really close to being not dependent on anything, I took a lyrica last night but I've been off them 3 weeks now so I doubt it'll fire up old pathways.

I don't want to be drug free, I just don't want to be dependent, take a wee break and then go back to using responsibly medically and recreationally.
 
I got 7 x 15mg mirtazapine Zispin. With the option to get more if needed. Hopeful my benzo WD symptoms will clear up in a week or so. Can't imagine a week on them no matter how heavy is going to cause a long drawn out recovery.

Zopiclone is probably more addictive than Valium from what I see around here.
 
Payday tomorrow. Doctor's appointment in the early morning where I'm pretty certain to be given lithium, in which case my boss has told me to take a couple of days off to get used to any side-effects.

Can you see where this is going?
 
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