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EADD Heroin Discussion v. XXII -- Brucey Bonus Beetles all round!

England- It was just me and 1 pharmacist at the time. She overlooked for a sec to see if there was any other CDs, then left me to it, to assist a customer. There was a brief window of opportunity when her back was turned but yeah.. I was on cam the whole time.

Evey- lol yeah I can see why you were curious! Working in a pharmacy deffo isn't the best place for a recovering addict. It just makes me chuckle how they asked me, I would never of dreamed of working there otherwise!
 
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The thing is any scam you can possibly think of has already been thought of and countered at some time even if you're not automatically aware of these measures...

Just not worth it.....

Having said that last year when CTing of 20 years of prescribed opiates for pain management I was disposing of a load of out of date morphine amps and remember it being tough....

Sense of achievement to know that you're strong enough not to act on these perfectly natural feelings.
 
Yeah you're right, tbh Im really enjoying the job and would hate to mess it up over a moment of weakness.
Ah gosh, that must of been hard! You did well x
 
BecomingJulie said:
@BCF, thanks. My window of opportunity for scoring closes soon, anyway, so no more chance till tomorrow. I'll try 10 mg. of diazepam a bit nearer bedtime. Might help me get to sleep ..... Just hope I don't wake up sweating again .....
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can you nip to a pharmacy? and get a box of cocodamol? a 10mg diaz and a cwe wil have you right as rain, have it a few hours before bedtime and youll wake up feeling great, trust me!
 
englandgz74 said:
The thing is any scam you can possibly think of has already been thought of and countered at some time even if you're not automatically aware of these measures...

Just not worth it.....

Having said that last year when CTing of 20 years of prescribed opiates for pain management I was disposing of a load of out of date morphine amps and remember it being tough....

Sense of achievement to know that you're strong enough not to act on these perfectly natural feelings.
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Wow good on ye, G x

kace said:
Yeah you're right, tbh Im really enjoying the job and would hate to mess it up over a moment of weakness.
Ah gosh, that must of been hard! You did well x
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Glad you're enjoying it. I hope it works out for ye. You seem pleasant enough - why not join our section more often? We have Gibz n plenty of non-drug based discussions, if you're concerned about being triggered.

Evey

F.U.B.A.R. said:
I admire both of you for your resolve. If I had been in your shoes I would have cracked and run off with the fuckin lot. Withdrawals are excellent at justifying terrible behaviour...
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This is why you're our rogue n on UK's most wanted list :D

Evey
 
God opiate withdrawals really suck don't they. Mine lasted almost 8 months....just got over them and had a week on mst and oramorph after my last op and suffered horrible WDs from that.

That was Easter and they've just subsided now. Next operation I'm doing without opiates as I now know my body just can't take them.

It is mind over matter though julie you've just got to be mentally strong.....after all the physical is perceived via the mental.

I know I'm odd but I rather like the feeling of overcoming hardship...like when you think "no way can I go to work today" then think fuck it and go anyway :)
 
Evey, thank you hun. Im going to show my face here more, have been a bit embarrassed too since I went a bit nuts in December and posted a load of crap on bl!
Thanks for the support/ responses guys :) my mad cravings have subsided. I was in a desperate place when I made the initial post and was contemplating driving round all night to try and score. Still in wds, but riding them out till tomorrow.

And yeah England, it's a massive achievement to do that :)
 
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Depends on the length of time you've been using but for most as soon as the codeine wears off your back to square one.

You've got to pay the piper at some stage if your withdrawing.
 
englandgz74 said:
Depends on the length of time you've been using but for most as soon as the codeine wears off your back to square one.

You've got to pay the piper at some stage if your withdrawing.
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tbh man ive been using for a number of years now, longer than i wish to admit but when i get past the 24 hr mark ( since my last dose of h) with codeine i feel fine, as long as i dose 300mg when i wake up feeling shite (bout 12 hrs since last hit) then again around 7pm (near 24 hrs since) then the following morning with another 300mg i am fine to sleep that night and wake up feeling ok the following morning, i can then take another dose to totally eliminate it but 9/10 times i can just ride it out n feel fine

As long as i've used codeine for the amount of time it takes for all the h to get out of my system i am generally fine, i wish someone else could try this out n see if it works for them because it really dose work for me, by doing this i have avoided needing to get on a maintenance script


BecomingJulie said:
I have some dihydrocodeine stashed for really dire emergencies. Maybe time to dig them out.

The tricky bit is not taking enough to shut my endorphin factory back down ..... else as GZ74 says, it's back to square one.
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Never noticed this 'back to square one' thing, i've never had that, its never prolonged the misery, its just made the suffering easier IME
 
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your method makes perfest sense bcf, i might try it when i really need to, do u think tram instead of codeine would work or not. If it works for me it would be a massive help.
 
breakcorefiend said:
tbh man ive been using for a number of years now, longer than i wish to admit but when i get past the 24 hr mark ( since my last dose of h) with codeine i feel fine, as long as i dose 300mg when i wake up feeling shite (bout 12 hrs since last hit) then again around 7pm (near 24 hrs since) then the following morning with another 300mg i am fine to sleep that night and wake up feeling ok the following morning, i can then take another dose to totally eliminate it but 9/10 times i can just ride it out n feel fine

As long as i've used codeine for the amount of time it takes for all the h to get out of my system i am generally fine, i wish someone else could try this out n see if it works for them because it really dose work for me, by doing this i have avoided needing to get on a maintenance script





Never noticed this 'back to square one' thing, i've never had that, its never prolonged the misery, its just made the suffering easier IME
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I tried the exact thing with the CWE codeine and while it did make me feel better once I stopped it was straight back into wds.

This was from methadone and fentanyl not heroin though and it was after a multi year continuous useage. It may be different if it's used after a binge following a period of abstenance. The exact nature of wds and what will help them various massively from person to person. When I was first prescribed them I could to on and off at will for about the first five years. Once I'd experienced my first rattle though that was it.....each time got successively worse until I just stayed on permanantly....(which is easy to do when it's prescribed). I honestly think 90% of my current mental problems and depression are linked to this...it obviously takes awhile for the brain to fully repair....for me anyway
 
da man said:
your method makes perfest sense bcf, i might try it when i really need to, do u think tram instead of codeine would work or not. If it works for me it would be a massive help.
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Tram would be perfect mate, any 'lesser' opiates will do the trick :) i really hope you give it a go n report back, I might be onto something here! and would save countless people from being dragged through the green handcuff system!
 
breakcorefiend said:
tbh man ive been using for a number of years now, longer than i wish to admit but when i get past the 24 hr mark ( since my last dose of h) with codeine i feel fine, as long as i dose 300mg when i wake up feeling shite (bout 12 hrs since last hit) then again around 7pm (near 24 hrs since) then the following morning with another 300mg i am fine to sleep that night and wake up feeling ok the following morning, i can then take another dose to totally eliminate it but 9/10 times i can just ride it out n feel fine

As long as i've used codeine for the amount of time it takes for all the h to get out of my system i am generally fine, i wish someone else could try this out n see if it works for them because it really dose work for me, by doing this i have avoided needing to get on a maintenance script





Never noticed this 'back to square one' thing, i've never had that, its never prolonged the misery, its just made the suffering easier IME
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When you say you've been using for a number of years, is that more off than on, or more on than off? I found it possible to just about keep my use in check while I was chipping, but when I crossed the line into near daily use, it just snowballed and there was fuck all I could about it except score. I don't know if you've had a full blown habit before BCF, if so then you know the risks. But if not, then be prepared to be shafted up the arse quicker than you can say "two bags please.."
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
When you say you've been using for a number of years, is that more off than on, or more on than off? I found it possible to just about keep my use in check while I was chipping, but when I crossed the line into near daily use, it just snowballed and there was fuck all I could about it except score. I don't know if you've had a full blown habit before BCF, if so then you know the risks. But if not, then be prepared to be shafted up the arse quicker than you can say "two bags please.."
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I have been using opiates on n off since i was 20, by 22 i was using them near daily ( codeine, dhc, oxy and tram) by 26 i was using heroin a few times a week, by 27 i was using heroin daily and have had a full blown habit since then, only the last few months have i pulled the reigns in and limited my usage to a few times a week but i have had a full blown habit for at least 3/4 years of daily use, the type of habit that if i ran out unexpectedly i would be shitting myself with every cough and needing 4/5 showers a day and would be changing my bedsheets nightly due to sweats followed by shivers

I've been right through the whole spectrum, I know how nasty they can be and i wouldn't wish em on my worst enemy!
 
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