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EADD Heroin discussion v.20 -- You've come a long way baby

I can't help you there but I'm sure someone will chime in..

Pretty sure you need to get all of the wax coating off them though otherwise you'll be left with some useless gloop... I don't think it's a good idea injecting pills anyway tbh, pretty sure they can fuck your veins up rather rapidly.



Like I said, I don't know so wait for someone else to chime in....
 
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BecomingJulie said:
So, I've gone 28 days with no opiates more interesting than a few Paramol. But Jess is coming up to visit this coming Friday, and that means a score is pretty much On The Cards. That will make it a total of 33 days (since I'll have to actually go and score on the Thursday night) unless I have the willpower to sit on it overnight without a sample.

The plan, such as I have, is to get just enough to be able to blast through it all on the Friday night; and then not only is the comedown minimal, but it will be easy not to have any more gear until after my filling in another fortnight's time.
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I've not been using regularly for the past year and have discovered that when i do,it is only worth getting enough for that first day/evening.after that it really doesn't do anything other than make your w/d harder.using for just one night,you may feel rough the day after or even 2 days after but sure you won't get a habit back.
I know a few people who are able to use recreationally like this.if you can do it,then kudos to you and enjoy!just for so many people,once they use they think they have fallen off the wagon and like,what the fuck?!
It doesn't have to be that way though.sure you know all this.

regarding MSTs,I am scripted from my GP for MSTs and also benzos and I never have to do drug tests.
as for injecting them,I have no idea.the 100mg ones that I get are in plastic caps with grains inside.
when i was in the hospital,i had a naso gastric tube,so anything i ate or drank would come right back out through the tube,so i had to open up the caps into my mouth and absorb it that way,which was quite nasty.
My guess would be that each grain inside the caps are coated so it would be pretty hard to IV and separate the coating from the grains.Just my opinion as I never IV
 
@rocktet89
Brown gear with black dots/ specks . Is it a hardish rock. Get that type myways a lot, normally it's really decent. You tried it yet?
Other day went to a 3rd choice Dlr , he had this really dark,almost chocalte powder colour gear. Opened it and felt sure i'd been ripped ( although this guy never has b4). It was not bad at all but just the look of it is so off putting
 
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Hi Kat

Well, Jess is coming to visit on Friday, and that means there will be gear on the go a couple of weeks ahead of my intended date. But I'm determined not to get greedy. My plan is to blast through as much of my stash as I feel comfortable with in one night, stash the rest and leave it until I'm properly ready for more; not just reach for the foil because it's there. About the only thing stopping me is the nasty media-fed idea that I'm once a junkie, always a junkie .....

Whereas if I can keep hold of the idea that it's me calling the shots and not the beetle, I'll be fine.
 
the new zealanders no everytrick there is for pills as they are so remote - they have access to A.A and make H out of MST.

Got this gear last week which is fine but making my throat fucked with almost chlorine type taste phlegm - anyone else had this (london)
 
blondin said:
the new zealanders no everytrick there is for pills as they are so remote - they have access to A.A and make H out of MST.

Got this gear last week which is fine but making my throat fucked with almost chlorine type taste phlegm - anyone else had this (london)
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yeah i've had this shit. i was hanging out with a mate's band and they said they knew a chemist who cooked them up some h. chased it and oh my god the fucking taste, i thought they were joking but they all smoked it and said it was the tits. tbf wasn't a bad high.
 
How do folks ...
had a little taste today, got .8 for 30 quid sound quality can't complain, not on the daily bag a day hunt anymore, only used twice in the 2 month Thursday and today. I have recently just came off subs after using them for two month to get the smack monkey off my back, I quit the junkie life style for others mostly my bird and my family it was a cunt having a habit but sometimes I think I was happier but the pain for others is enough for me not to pick up my habit again although as we all know that is easier said and done but I think if I can have one night a week having a toot I will be happier I wish I never tried smack but once you do you dont forget that happiness it maybe be a fake happiness but I enjoy it all the same , hard to tell that to my bird as great as she is and how she stood by me after me making her think she was going loopy because of my habit, but she doesn't truly understand as much as she tries, maybe that's why I am here letting it out who knows, I am going have a Lil ' toot and reflect on things, hope my fellow brass monkeys are well and not sick.
 
^ hang in there mate, you're doing well just having achieved that mindset. I'm currently on an extremely long and protracted methadone taper and am now down to 4mg/day. It's now at the stage where I often forget to take it in the morning and it doesn't even bother me - further proof that it's largely psychological at this dose...

Edit: having said that, my stimulant use (namely 3fpm) has increased significantly recently - as always happens at the tail end of an opiate reduction.....
 
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F.U.B.A.R. said:
^ hang in there mate, you're doing well just having achieved that mindset. I'm currently on an extremely long and protracted methadone taper and am now down to 4mg/day. It's now at the stage where I often forget to take it in the morning and it doesn't even bother me - further proof that it's largely psychological at this dose...

Edit: having said that, my stimulant use (namely 3fpm) has increased significantly recently - as always happens at the tail end of an opiate reduction.....
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Do you not find stims make you feel much worse?

You know what I'm currently going through so I wont re-hash it but even caffeine makes me feel terrible with the anxiety and horrible noradrenaline rushes.....i couldn't imagine how much worse jt would be with more powerful stimulants
 
englandgz74 said:
Do you not find stims make you feel much worse?

You know what I'm currently going through so I wont re-hash it but even caffeine makes me feel terrible with the anxiety and horrible noradrenaline rushes.....i couldn't imagine how much worse jt would be with more powerful stimulants
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Well to be fair mate you did jump off a 100mg/day habit - which to my mind is sheer madness :-) if you do it gradually then the physical withdrawal is minimal, but the psychological effects can still be a bitch. This is the stage when i usually start doing euphoric stims to take my mind off the cravings. Seems to work ok, but can result in a cycle of opiates/speed/opiates/speed ad infinitum.....
 
Your right of course it was/is madness.....

Its because your my friend though and I respect your opinions that I thought is ask as for me caffeine not only makes the anxiety much worse but makes me crave methadone (probably as I know I will releave the anxiety)...

I can totally see bow doing stims would lead to both a physical and mental craving for opiates. To my mind you've done all the hard work and just need to work on filling the gaps that opiates have left in your life and daily routine. I'm sure you can do that as you e done so massively well in getting to this stage.

You know how hugely proud I am of what you've done. Stick at it mate....you're almost there now :)
 
You still suffering mate? I've never done a methadone rattle myself, but ive heard it lasts 6 to 8 weeks - which would put you about half way there now..
You really are one tough mother.. :-)

Edit: as for filling in the gaps, the only way i know is by taking other drugs... Which i realise is sad, but after 35 years of self medication it becomes a way of life. As a certain beat combo once said.. 'Whatever gets you through the night, is alright..'
 
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I'm suffering BADLY mate....
My doctor has just retired though and I've been cut off as the remaining GP won't prescribe methadone to a pain patient (no I dont know why either). So my options should I want to continue tapering are find a new GP (I'm too busy) or go to drug and alcohol (they wouldn't take me as they don't take pain patients)....that's left me pretty stressed. While I do have a stock of a few thousand mg's kn the cupboard, its not enough to do a proper taper with. These WDs are quite nasty though and haven't really abated much although I don't know what day I'm on as I'm not counting.

I wouldn't recommend anyone else try this unless you're incredibly resilient (I'm not) or just incredibly stubborn (I am) :)
 
You would FUBAR mate.....

Its all just perspective really...... if you wanted off as bad as I do you would do the exact same thing. I've got a strong will bug I'm certainly nowt special. Not by a long shot.
 
I dont want to pry, but why were you so desperate to sack the meth? Its not like you were a hopeless junky like many of us on here. Tbh, i would probably have been happy to stay on a maintenance dose for the rest of my life if it wasnt for outside pressures...
 
Job really mate. It can cause issues with a job like mine when your on long term pain management of that nature and to that degree. I don't really want to go any deeper on that aspect though....i. sure you understand :)

The other big reason (and the most significant for me) is that I simply don't feel I need then anymore.... My back had improved so much since my last surgery and seeing a private physio (as oppose to the shit NHS one in my area). If my pain issues are resolved...or at least resolved to the extent that they can be managed by OTC non opiate mess then I don't need then. If I don't need them I simply wont take them:)
 
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