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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

Yeah I don't know you and I don't want to either as you have a cocky early 20 something attitude, I never claimed I knew everything and was giving advise and expressing my opinion -if you don't like it then get the fuck off of the harm reduction forum seen? The only people that are happy to be using are those that have written themselves off or have a life really not worth living, deep down every addict wants out and they are kidding themselves if not. I hope you wake up and smell the coffee before your attitude has you swinging from the rafters. I seen sooo many cocky youth with potential say the exact same things as you with the same attitude and they all live to regret it, it's sad to be honest. If you don't want to take check and think your a big man then be my guest and carry on as you are but you can not control smack, nobody can and the only reason you can chip at the moment is because you have not had proper kit before. I guess some people need 3rd degree before they stop fucking with fire, if you don't mind being scarred for the rest of your life then carry sunshine, it's no skin off my nose believe me -I tried to help.

Don't act like such a know it all. You literally know nothing about me.

So before you go all high and mighty acting like a know it all, ask questions first don't charge in spouting shite.

I know people who are using after 15+ and they are happy to be using, sure its got it shit times EVERYTHING does.
 
Yeah I don't know you and I don't want to either as you have a cocky early 20 something attitude, I never claimed I knew everything and was giving advise and expressing my opinion -if you don't like it then get the fuck off of the harm reduction forum seen? The only people that are happy to be using are those that have written themselves off or have a life really not worth living, deep down every addict wants out and they are kidding themselves if not. I hope you wake up and smell the coffee before your attitude has you swinging from the rafters. I seen sooo many cocky youth with potential say the exact same things as you with the same attitude and they all live to regret it, it's sad to be honest. If you don't want to take check and think your a big man then be my guest and carry on as you are but you can not control smack, nobody can and the only reason you can chip at the moment is because you have not had proper kit before. I guess some people need 3rd degree before they stop fucking with fire, if you don't mind being scarred for the rest of your life then carry sunshine, it's no skin off my nose believe me -I tried to help.

To be fair Dark I did manage to chip reallly good gear for 2 years before it got me by the balls - used to use it for comedowns after Id been out dancing - but you are right as well - it got me in the end and ever since Ive never been able to chip for more than a few weeks - im either clean and living my life or Im up to my neck in it
 
This is my point dude, chipping is just stage 1 of a full blown habbit. Chipping only lasts so long, I chipped for a good few years before it got bad -I thought I was in control too. I know people that chip for 3-4 years but it gets everyone in the end. I only say these things with the hope it helps others as once your habbit gets to a certain stage its very hard to come back from and its sad seeing people who are basicly going to give up everything in the name of smack. My use spans 2 decades and I have known a lot of users from many towns so I am speaking from experience, horrible debilitating expensive experience. There is no middle ground with a real habbit as its all or nothing like you say.

To be fair Dark I did manage to chip reallly good gear for 2 years before it got me by the balls - used to use it for comedowns after Id been out dancing - but you are right as well - it got me in the end and ever since Ive never been able to chip for more than a few weeks - im either clean and living my life or Im up to my neck in it
 
Ive had 11 years of this now, ruined a nursing career, worked my arse off to get clean and back on my feet and get another good job with a promotion soon after, settled down with the girl of my dreams in a nice little house and then as soon as things started to go wrong I go reaching for the smack like an automaton. During the latest nose dive I also managed to write off my car while high as a kite the morning after a rave last summer. Now im back under my mom and dads feet - in the meantime while living with my girl my mother had become mentally ill in my absense- and with the mess im now in I cant do anything to help get her sorted apart from help my dad babysit her. Now Im back at square one, all my friends have abandoned me despite the fact that Ive bailed alot of them out of scrapes time and time again and never fucked any of them over. Anyone else at my age would have learned some sort of lesson here but Ive sort of given up now im too much of a pussy faced cunt to do another cluck on my own - ive just started claiming jsa and even the jobcenter thinks that im on the wrong benefit, that im unfit for work and that I should apply for esa and prepare to get comfortable on the top of the scrap heap. I look like a tramp, the whole house is a shithole as my mother wont let my dad nor I do any housework as the noise disturbs her television programmes. When Im not trying to contain her frankly immature and sometimes dangerous behaviour Im just locked in my room doing smack to try and block it all out - the only highlights in my life at the mo is the occasional bag of weed I allow myself so I can have the odd weekend session on GTA5 and my 3d tv which is next to useless half the time when your in a semi permanant nod.

I blew it, I put everything into getting it sorted and then I blew it again. Id expect better behaviour from a 5 year old.

You've shown that you can quit and get your life back on track. You've done it before, that can only mean that you can do it again. You're sounding like your going through a bout of depression. I hope it passes soon, and that you can soon start to see things more positively again. It's not the situation, but how you see the situation that counts. Or so I've been told at least. I think there is some truth in it.
 
Please no potatoes my mum is Irish and she lived by the stereotype and we had potatoes EVERY day with our tea. When I left home it was amazing to not have them everyday.

Years later I'm still wary of them.
 
just a little comment . I really don't like scoring with other people. I'm a lone wolf bag head.
I know precisely what you mean. Just the more people you involve in a drug deal, the more complicated it gets.

I don't mind scoring for somebody else, if I was already going to score anyway and I have not phoned the order through; but I'd certainly expect them to wait while I went, even if they knew my dealer. Taking more people along only increases the probability of something going wrong.
 
Now I nearly always score with a buddy of mine. Score together, so I have to wait a bit for him to raise. Plus he has a car no waiting around all cold and wet!

I got a couple of numbers, the stuff is ok. So sometimes I get a bag then meet up with my mate. but the couple of guys with the best stuff are suspicious not of me, but because they are careful who they deal with.
 
I would never expect him to score FOR me.

However if he has already he will. He is a good bloke, he doesn't even get anything out of it. You know some people might expect a ten bag or not tell you about deals.

You know 2 20 bags for 35 where as other folk might say its 2 for 40 to get a fiver out of you.
 
a mate ended up getting a bag of white instead of the brown he asked for, foned the guy back and guy said it was china white, when he got back to me he told me and we both went "fentanyl", so went on our way back to test and he tried a bit first, water goes golden and near instantly disolves, hmmmm this looks very good acc, and boy was it =D

anyone else find this stuff? proper white/light silver, no trace of brown until the water hits it
 
fuckin typical been buying good gear for yeras now - and as soon as i get a chunk of dosh suddenly no ones phones are on or those that are only have 2nd rate crud...ahhhhhh wwhy cant it be like it was in the end of te 90's-2000's
 
Dare I say the drought is over although the quality is not on parr with what it was but it seems even the bash movers have a steady increase in quality and 8/10 times you can get gear you can get some kind of nod off. I knew as soon as I am not in a position to be using things would start improving a fair bit, catch 22. 0.7 for £30 and if you smoke about half you can get a decent nod on the go. I hate being clean and using as one night of smoking fucks me up for at least a week, 5 days of feeling like total shit followed by several days of general crappyness, rinse bank account and repeat. As much as I hated having a habbit and dedicating all my time and money to gear and rock, life was simpler as you are not torn between using or not using and feeling like shite is standard. Even if I giro junkie it and use bi-weekly I still feel like shit all the time. There is no middle ground with hard drugs, it's go hard or go home and those that think other wise are not deep enough in yet or are just kidding themselves and down playing the addiction.

Firstly ello everyone, glad to see some of the usual suspects still posting, hope u all as well as you hope to be.

DITP Eyup m8, now I know ur an oldschool poster and we might av a friend in common, so no offence but this and a few of your subsequent posts are really fuckin arrogant pal! You display a bit of an arrogant, ignorant and condescending attitude when you say the kind of things you say regarding whether or not an addict can be happy, can have a full life and especially when you say that there's no middle ground, and anyone thinking otherwise is either "not deep enough in yet or kidding themselves and downplaying the addiction."

I'm sure you've your own fair share of experience, and know many others who share your views, but the fact is there's at least 250,00-odd B addicts in the UK, and unless you've known each and every one of them, you can only be wrong making sweeping statements like that. My habits spanned 3 decades, and trust me I've been in plenty fuckin deep enough, yet the fact remains I am still using, I've maintained a job I've loved and excelled in for well over ten years, I have my own mildly successful business, a long term mrs, clean driving license, full set of teeth, clean bill of health, given up cigarette smoking for a year now, ok granted little spare money, but I'm as happy as I'd likely ever be despite having battled depression for fuckin years. I'd say the gears helped me, and that the almost singularly primary aspect that has fucked me up to do with my addiction is it's illegality. I've managed to maintain a habit without ever , EVER having stolen to fund it, or sold myself or anything in that bracket. I've also been on methadone for years, and see that as a fuckin godsend and wont slag it like most of my fellow gear heads.

If I ever meet you I'll tell you the same, and our mutual friend will at least tell you that he's got no reason to say I'm lying. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't recommend heroin (or rather brown) to any cunt, but I think that a lot of gear heads are or were well into the shit before they got on brown, and that the fact they develop a habit is circumstantial in many cases, and the drug gives them a perfect opportunity to blame everything that is or was wrong with their life, on. A scapegoat. And society will 100% back this up, from the absolute bullshit that the media has generated regarding drugs and their image. Every paedo, killer, psycho etc, probably gets their sentence reduced by blaming drugs. See Ian Watkins. Or any other scum cunt who blames drugs for the evils they've commited. Anyway I'm digressing. The only point I wanted to make is that you're wrong, and what you said is more than a little bit arrogant. But I mean no offense, feel free to try to tell me I'm wrong, peace.

Ello Brimz el matador, long time no see or speak I ain't forgotten ya!
 
fuckin typical been buying good gear for yeras now - and as soon as i get a chunk of dosh suddenly no ones phones are on or those that are only have 2nd rate crud...ahhhhhh wwhy cant it be like it was in the end of te 90's-2000's

Thought you got a chunk of dosh off mummy every week anyway Blondin mate?
 
Please remember that being a high-functioning addict is a form of privilege. It's like the exact opposite of an allergy: you are immune to something that is harmful to most people.

You might well be in control of your habit, and if so then good for you; but you seem to forget that this is a luxury that not everyone has. And it doesn't make you better than them. Don't blame the victims. Even if someone's bad experiences are all their own fault, you only stoop to their level by rubbing it in.

Think of the ability to take drugs and not turn into the media stereotype of a gibbering junkie wreck as a minor superpower. And we all know the rules regarding superpowers.
 
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