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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Whenever I've checked wedinos I haven't seen any fake Galenika stuff. Really hope the cunts with the kilos of SHITTY FLUBROMAZOLAM don't cotton onto it. I fucking hate fake benzos. Nowadays they almost all have f-lam in them. Worst benzonever imo.

I remember back in the day the fake valium that made your whole mouth vibrant electric blue still actually contained diazepam!!

Like MSJs I haven't seen those in a while. Might have a little look at the drug porn I'm wedinos...
 
axe battler said:
Ordered some diazziezzzzz and a couple of strips of zoppies for good measure. Really hoping the come tomorrow.

This is going to be a test of my self control. If I get them and black out for 2-3-4 days and end up with no pills (like has happened before!) I think I need to accept I can't do benzos.

Fairly confident I can stick to 10 or 20mg a day though...
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Does Zopiclone help you sleep?
 
maxalfie said:
Wedinos are still showing Bensedin as genuine. I just checked the Wedinos site and the first samples page had 4 entries of Bensedin diazepam which all passed the diazepam test.
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Yes, agreed.
Unfortunately Wedinos don't test for strength and I've suddenly encountered a lot of people reporting Bensedin and Ksalol aren't as strong as they were. I know this is contraversial because clearly the situation varies between plugs and some ppl are getting what they want. I'm having a bad feeling Ben/Ksa are being faked on a massive scale. If I'm right, the fakes are underdosed but contain the active ingredient to pass the Wedinos test.

I really hope I'm wrong about this.

BTW New account to BL, so I understand people might be suspicious of me, but I go back nearly 20 years.
 
anal_greed said:
Unfortunately Wedinos don't test for strength and I've suddenly encountered a lot of people reporting Bensedin and Ksalol aren't as strong as they were. I know this is contraversial because clearly the situation varies between plugs and some ppl are getting what they want. I'm having a bad feeling Ben/Ksa are being faked on a massive scale. If I'm right, the fakes are underdosed but contain the active ingredient to pass the Wedinos test
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There's been batches of underdosed bensidin galenika for years, you only have too Google it and loads of people are saying it on different sites, someone I know had some decent ones and put his friend in touch with the vendor he used and the vendor sent out a load with no active ingredient at all to his mate then blocked them both

My vendor wouldn't buy bensidin galenikas for ages because they was almost all underdosed fakes, I was having to buy prodes which are definitely not 10mg but passed the wedinos test, maybe its just me and I prefer bensidin galenika as they feel much stronger, then he got the new black font instead of blue with red bits on backs of blister packs of bensidin galenikas in and they are legit, I'm tapering though I need off for many reasons, including who knows when he'll run out, get busted or buy some that have been faked and he didn't know, it don't take long for the people who fake them to copy packaging of blister packs, soon the black fonts will be faked underdosed pills too, it's fucked up, it's getting worse I checked wedinos recently its bromazepam in alot of vallies and xanax, was flubromazolam a while ago, still getting those too on wedinos but I noticed more contain bromazepam, some even and caffeine too, wtaf why would anyone put a stimulant in a downer lol
 
Are there any giveaways that let you know you've got flubromazolam specifically?

I've read some people saying flubromazolam takes like >1hr to kick in fully, or that it's erratic and *can* be that slow. But in other people's descriptions, it seems to have a "normal" onset.

I've taken it, but it's been a few years and I never remembered my experiences that well to begin with.
 
Hippy Flower Fairy said:
There's been batches of underdosed bensidin galenika for years, you only have too Google it and loads of people are saying it on different sites, someone I know had some decent ones and put his friend in touch with the vendor he used and the vendor sent out a load with no active ingredient at all to his mate then blocked them both

My vendor wouldn't buy bensidin galenikas for ages because they was almost all underdosed fakes, I was having to buy prodes which are definitely not 10mg but passed the wedinos test, maybe its just me and I prefer bensidin galenika as they feel much stronger, then he got the new black font instead of blue with red bits on backs of blister packs of bensidin galenikas in and they are legit, I'm tapering though I need off for many reasons, including who knows when he'll run out, get busted or buy some that have been faked and he didn't know, it don't take long for the people who fake them to copy packaging of blister packs, soon the black fonts will be faked underdosed pills too, it's fucked up, it's getting worse I checked wedinos recently its bromazepam in alot of vallies and xanax, was flubromazolam a while ago, still getting those too on wedinos but I noticed more contain bromazepam, some even and caffeine too, wtaf why would anyone put a stimulant in a downer lol
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That's really interesting. Over the years I've tended to attribute many claims of low doses to squabbles between vendors and people not realising their own growing benzo tollerence - so I guess I'm late to pick this up. Everything I'd heard until relatively recently about Ksalol was about how they were strong (although obviously a legit pharma company shouldn't be turning out significantly overdosed pills). Conversely I've always heard stuff about Besedin being slightly weak or variable.

Apaurin have been my diaz of choice for over a decade and always thought them the best - as good as anything from a UK pharmacy. Guess I'm a benzo snob LOL :cool: Now I don't acquire anything from inside the UK partly due to fakes but also the amount of general bullshit involved - no offence to the decent vendors, it's just we haven't met. What made me suspicious of Galenika was I couldn't see how such massive quantities could be diverted from the system. I think I know where the fakes are coming from, but I'm not posting it because dangerous people are involved, plus I'm not doing LE's job for them.

Caffeine... WTF! LOL I quite like bromazepam, but see what you mean about it showing up in Kern Prodes, among others, with its RC sibling. I was a bit dubious of those too, not from experience but they were expensive and reports varied on their strength.

Good luck with your tapering. I know it's hard as I was trying before the pandemic. Fingers crossed for you.
 
anal_greed said:
Good luck with your tapering. I know it's hard as I was trying before the pandemic. Fingers crossed for you
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Thankyou I've been off and on benzos, mostly valium for years, I come off by going onto something to help me come off, it doesn't work or makes me worse, go back on vallies, it's really hard staying off, I don't even abuse them or feel high, I take for sleep, used to take them for anxiety too before this taper but they are making my mental health worse

What makes it harder is even though the vallies I use are legit, you're right they are variable, I chew mine I can't taste the difference sometimes, sometimes getting to sleep quicker than other, been using l theanine to help sleep, it's a supplement that works on gaba etc, but I need to stop it as I've had enough of the nightmares it causes, almost everything causes nightmares with me, antidepressants, sleeping pills that are prescribed and OTC, herbal stuff like valerian, even sodden lavender pillow spray and aromatherapy oils, everything apart from valium, I just get strange dreams occasionally with those
 
Just checking out some of the benzo analysis results on Wedinos and there seems to be a large surge in Benzos being identified as Bromozolam. THis is a new one on me.

This Week's Newest Drug: Bromazolam (May 2020)​

https://drugabuserecognition.com/bromazolam/

"Bromazolam (also known by the name XLI-268) was first synthesized in 1976, but it was never marketed. This is how most Novel Psychoactive Substances ( NPS) come to the market. It is often referred to as patent piracy. A chemist in China will find the drug in old research papers and then manufacture it in China and sell it on the open web."

"Bromazolam is a triazolobenzodiazepine. It has subsequently been sold as a designer drug, first being definitively identified by the EMCDDA in Sweden in 2016. It is the bromo instead of chloro analogue of alprazolam and has similar sedative and anxiolytic effects to it and other benzodiazepines." Wikipedia

Seems that it's an analogue of Aplrazolam. If the vendors would only openly sell it for what it actually is I'd happily try it. Xanax is already one of my preferred Benzos and a little tweaking could result in something that hits the spot even better. I wonder why, to the best of my knowledge at least, it never saw the light of day during the legal high boom of designer benzos in the mid twenty tens. I'm sure there would have been interest in such a substance and that it could have proved popular. I guess we know that not all analogues are as good as the original items so maybe it's a case of one of those.

And now it is being shifted through false advertising.
 
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With xanax all you have to do is taste it to know if it contains alprazolam or not, the taste is so distinctive. However you will not be able to tell dosage from tasting it. Its so strong tasting that you can easily detect 1mg or less in a pill the second it's on your tongue, just about. Diazepam has a certain bitter after taste also. Unfortunately clonazepam and some others, loraz maybe? Seem to be pretty tasteless. I know the galenika rivotril clonaz have a slightly sweet taste to them.
 
Bleaney said:
Just checking out some of the benzo analysis results on Wedinos and there seems to be a large surge in Benzos being identified as Bromozolam. THis is a new one on me.

This Week's Newest Drug: Bromazolam (May 2020)​

https://drugabuserecognition.com/bromazolam/

"Bromazolam (also known by the name XLI-268) was first synthesized in 1976, but it was never marketed. This is how most Novel Psychoactive Substances ( NPS) come to the market. It is often referred to as patent piracy. A chemist in China will find the drug in old research papers and then manufacture it in China and sell it on the open web."

"Bromazolam is a triazolobenzodiazepine. It has subsequently been sold as a designer drug, first being definitively identified by the EMCDDA in Sweden in 2016. It is the bromo instead of chloro analogue of alprazolam and has similar sedative and anxiolytic effects to it and other benzodiazepines." Wikipedia

Seems that it's an analogue of Aplrazolam. If the vendors would only openly sell it for what it actually is I'd happily try it. Xanax is already one of my preferred Benzos and a little tweaking could result in something that hits the spot even better. I wonder why, to the best of my knowledge at least, it never saw the light of day during the legal high boom of designer benzos in the mid twenty tens. I'm sure there would have been interest in such a substance and that it could have proved popular. I guess we know that not all analogues are as good as the original items so maybe it's a case of one of those.

And now it is being shifted through false advertising.
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Worryingly, the latest Wedinos result for Galenika Bensedin Diazepam has come back as Bromazolam, and Bensedins have had a pretty good track record of being legitimate lately

Galenikas in general have a good track record - the Ksalol Alprazolams seem to all come back as genuine, but unfortunately now there are Rivotril Clonezepams that are coming back as fake....
 
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Forever Changes said:
Worryingly, the latest Wedinos result for Galenika Bensedin Diazepam has come back as Bromazolam, and Bensedins have had a pretty good track record of being legitimate lately

Galenikas in general have a good track record - the Ksalol Alprazolams seem to all come back as genuine, but unfortunately now there are Rivotril Clonezepams that are coming back as fake....
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Shame WEDINOS doesn't report strength, and I can't really afford to pay Energy Control (especially when people are saying Galenika can literally vary pill by pill, so it'd require multiple tests to figure out).

For diaz I've stuck to KRKA Apaurin for years because they seem so consistent.

Anyone have an opinion on Helex alprazolam? Given that they are made by KRKA I'd hope they'd be decent (and properly dosed).
 
i have some genesis pharmaceuticals lorazepam and i fucking love them.

i've not really had anything recreational off benzos since i got out of rehab, which is for the best cos i abuse the shit out of them, but was also disappointed when i forked out for temazepam eggs and even they didn't hit the spot they used to.

this is my way of saying i might be posting some utterly incomprehensible shite later. mea culpa.
 
Yeah I only got my first batch of Lorazepams in the last few months. I like them too. I've not abused them recreationally yet, I've just used them for day to day elimination of that tiresome and tedious anxiety. And they sure are effective for that. I can imagine that they would be good recreationally by increasing the dose a bit, but I am trying to keep my tolerance as low as possible and increasing the doses for recreation isnt the best way to do that.

THis weekend again I have locked away my DHC in a safe and kept the keys at work. I do not have the self control to not bosh any goodies like that if they are immediately to hand. But I do fancy some different kind of head buzz so I may try some kind of mixture of etiz, pregabalin, soma, wine and whisky, and maybe a bit of modafinil to keep me awake in case all that combo does otherwise is send me straight to sleep! Might be ok.

I managed to get out of a works social do this evening. Very relieved about that as such things cause me a lot of anxiety and discomfort due to my Autism. I would have hated to have had some kind of shutdown in front of my colleagues. So am feeling relieved but also cant help feeling a little sad at times like this that I cant do the things that normal people can do. But that feeling is getting less and less all the time, and easier to deal with. Since my diagnosis I acn at least understand why I have the limitations that I do and dont need to let it destroy my mood and self esteem every time a situation like this arises. It's just become a fact that I cant do after work social chit chat. I have to own that and there is also no need for me to attach a load of negative emotion and self pity etc to that.

I was tempted to get the keys to my DHC safe ahead of teh schedule i have set for myself but no, I already know how quickly and easily any form of opis can become habit forming. Making it a regular weekend thing is step 1 of a slippery slope, so it has to be much less often than that in my experience.

Sorry for straying off topic.
 
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Bleaney, are you serious?

I've read some awful stories from you and I think ypu should reconsider combining all those drugs, especially with alcohol.

You're worrying us all now. :(
 
Do not worry BelleRed. I know what I am doing (as much as any of us do lol)

its only low doses of everything, like 150 mg of preg, half a soma, 1mg of etiz. That really is nothing to worry about. Trust me I've gone loads further than that and been fine. The main thing i dont want to do is to just fall alseep, but I'm feeling hyped up now after listening to The Futureheads version of Hounds of Love like 6 times in a row.
 
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