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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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Thanks for the advice mate! Part of me is tempted to order the diclaz but that may just be the demon in me secretly wanting more benzos. Il keep my dose where it is and see if my body adjusts and if i find myself just going in and out of withdrawals everyday il just have to bite the bullet and wait it out i guess.

I have some valerian root which may help a bit. also phenegram for sleep.
 
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Il keep my dose where it is and see if my body adjusts .

Best idea mate. Your body will adjust, I used to take 250mgs of Diazepam per day now I'm on a script of 25mgs per day !

It can be done, you will shake, but you will get there ;)
 
thanks mate, wow thats some drop fair play! yeah id been dropping 1/4 off every week or week and a couple days and I'm impressed with how my body has adjusted so far. Only thing is on the last mile with short acting benzos when your trying to reduce the number of doses per day u soon feel it. But as you said, I will adjust if i can be patient enough to wait it out. thinking of using valerian root mid day to see if it helps because at this stage I'm needing a morning/night dose. I used valerian before when i had some minor trouble with diaz but weather it worked or was placebo il never know. Suppose if it helps at all its worth using especially as its a natural alternative which is safe.
 
If it's natural and safe then you'd be better to take it than to not cos it might just help, I know there are things like Phenibut that you can buy OTC that go for the Gaba-b receptors but from what I've read that is a problem and a half itself and something to stay clear of, I would try plain GABA, I'm actually thinking of getting some myself to see if it helps relax me because the dose I'm on now is fuck all to me, I'm still sourcing benzos elsewhere !
 
I read that GABA doesn't actually pass the blood brain barrier which leads to the controversy about if it actually works or if its placebo (same with valerian root), who knows I could be wrong. Phenibut probably would help but it could also just replace the addiction which i don't want. il try the valerian root mid day and keep my morning/night dose of pyraz and see if things level out. If so il wait a week or see how i feel and then try and replace another pyraz dose with it and so on.
 
Why do benzo people make the etizolam so blue dyed?
Why not just cover the chemical itself in a thin layer of easily dissolvable powder or something?
 
pellets get coated certain colours that's just the way it is lol, you can get uncoated diclazepam pellets or just buy the powder etizolam if you need it to dissolve ,

I've went and ordered 100 blue msjs now lol gna give them cheap and cheerful things a go again see if they're still as good :)
 
Rivotril Clonaz 2mg were great, used to be loads of those about this time last year. I also got some ones that tasted like bananas - was hilariously dodgy just having a benzo taste like bananas from a 10p mix up.

I've started to notice how warped my personality gets by the xanax now when I'm coming off it/on it, just do some seriously weird shit and my problem is it tends to always be something I write to other people or actions to other people as opposed to doing stupid things indoors by myself. Even on here I tend to start posting weird shit. Looking at the quantity that I've possibly consumed since around late December last year is actually fucked up. Definitely not the type of benzo I was after (comedown/sleep - clonaz/val would've been better, I thought the half lifes were too long) but now this stuff is so subtle when you can be on it I don't know when I am or when I'm not.

I find myself just looping around being on and off it on a weekly basis, like I'll take it for a few days, stop, it wears off - realize everything, then take it again, get back in the pattern, there we go wears off - realize everything (except for not to fucking take again). I hate the intolerable attitude they give me everytime they are wearing off and the lack of motivation to do anything except stare at the laptop.

Said this in another thread, find it mad how I have been on here for over 4 years and up until basically a year and a half or so ago it was all just fun drug use, then I started daily using ketamine, the clonaz, then got hooked on xanax since December, had seizures. The benzos just really fucked it up on me, not even having free access to oxy in the beginning had this impact.
 
It's amzing how different people respond to different benzos, Xanax is like a pure speeder to me, it motivates me to get up and get things done,

a Xanax bar in the morning is like a fat line of Coke to me with zero anxiety, like the anti-depressant of Benzos, same with Pyrazolam, the relief that shit gave me was just amazing,

every Benzo I've tried (10 at least) I've found very useful for something except Lorazepam wich I can't remember anything good about. And Oxazepam but I don't know if they were underdosed or not.
 
I find it like that at the start and during heavy use (because I don't sleep and am fucked without knowing) but my problem is I am dosing this stuff far too much without controlling it. For some reason can't just take one of these things before I know it in a complete cycle again. Do you not find they just make you do stupid shit if you use them more than a few days? I agreed to a meeting a week ago today and completely forgot about it, likewise with signing up to services, making agreements with people, etc.

Either that or my emotions go completely up the left. A lot of my posts are repetitions etc I feel like I make threads about things, forget, then talk about it at 3am 2-4 weeks later again. I've got a 9-5 job coming up in June, a really good one at that...the type that doesn't have time for getting on like this, really need to get it sorted.
 
So the valerian root seems to have helped me out today. I didn't feel as crap from around 5pm till the evening dose as i did the past few days without it. Don't know why i didn't think of using it, iv had it sitting around for a while and its helped before. Memory loss ?
 
Well we all know Benzos or GABAerics for that matter are famous for memory loss, when I stopped taking Gabapentin shit started coming back to me out of no where, crazy shit from years ago just popping into my head it was actually quite weird but wonderfull.
 
looking forward to that, and being more clear headed and energetic. I almost feel like iv been hibernating for the past 6 months.
 
Made a 1 litre etiz PG mix last night. Never made such a big batch before, but as its so difficult to weigh the stuff (it just coats the scales and clings like fuck) i just trusted that the vendors weight was as stated on the baggie. Only used honey pots or stout 0.5 litre measuring jugs for storage before. Now the solution is in a very unstable looking 1.5 litre tall, high, and wobbly looking plastic jug. I am a bit worried that i can forsee possible disaster with this jug somehow getting knocked over and spilled, either in the fridge or out of it, at some point before ive used it all. This jug seemed to be the best option when i bought it, but now that its 2/3 full of etiz PG solution im not sure that it is. There is a lot of money and enough etiz for a complete taper tied up in that emminently spillable jug.:\
 
Made a 1 litre etiz PG mix last night. Never made such a big batch before, but as its so difficult to weigh the stuff (it just coats the scales and clings like fuck) i just trusted that the vendors weight was as stated on the baggie. Only used honey pots or stout 0.5 litre measuring jugs for storage before. Now the solution is in a very unstable looking 1.5 litre tall, high, and wobbly looking plastic jug. I am a bit worried that i can forsee possible disaster with this jug somehow getting knocked over and spilled, either in the fridge or out of it, at some point before ive used it all. This jug seemed to be the best option when i bought it, but now that its 2/3 full of etiz PG solution im not sure that it is. There is a lot of money and enough etiz for a complete taper tied up in that emminently spillable jug.:\

decant into smaller containers which have lids?
 
Aye, good idea. I thought that i might somehow 'loose some' by decanting. But it is a very obvious idea now you've stated it. Could pur some into a honey pot, and / or other stout container. That way it wouldnt be the complete end of the world if the main jug does get knocked over. Worried about mould growth if its in a sealed honey pot for too long though. Dunno if that would happen. Maybe it would be better if i put a few air holes in the lid, i dunno.

I'm wondering if this batch of etiz isnt quite as pure as the vendors are claiming, or if by having to heat the mixture twice to get rid of floaters has fucked it a bit i dunno but my mind was a bit unruly last night, and i had to take more than intended early evening. Maybe its because this is the first time im trying to reduce etiz without having any opi agonists going on at the same tame, so it is gonna be more challenging. Fuck, I'll get there.
 
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Aye, good idea. I thought that i might somehow 'loose some' by decanting. But it is a very obvious idea now you've stated it. Could pur some into a honey pot, and / or other stout container. That way it wouldnt be the complete end of the world if the main jug does get knocked over. Worried about mould growth if its in a sealed honey pot for too long though. Dunno if that would happen. Maybe it would be better if i put a few air holes in the lid, i dunno.

I'm wondering if this batch of etiz isnt quite as pure as the vendors are claiming, or if by having to heat the mixture twice to get rid of floaters has fucked it a bit i dunno but my mind was a bit unruly last night, and i had to take more than intended early evening. Maybe its because this is the first time im trying to reduce etiz without having any opi agonists going on at the same tame, so it is gonna be more challenging. Fuck, I'll get there.

id suggest finding as many containers as u can like bottles/jars etc, sterilise them and put away the etiz. You probably have more chance of mould growth and contamination leaving it out in the open. good luck!
 
Cheers, im keeping the main jug in the fridge covered in cling film. I think i will decant some into seperate storage vessels. Do you think it would be better if the lids had some small air holes ? Ive had things like jam go mouldy on me in the fridge after being kept all sealed up for too long.
 
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