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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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So a couple people may have noticed I've been talking about Injectable Diazepam amps I ordered, Well I got a bunch of them , and hey hey , curiousity killed the cat, I've done loads of roids so not shy in injecting IM, and took an IM jag, nothing to report home about, except from faster onset, maybe a tiny bit stronger, I suppose it would be as it's not going through all shit in ur stomach, So Brimz was right on that 1 ;)

IV on the other hand not done that , I imagine it would be amazing, but I reckon that's something u put by for absolute emergency seizure time %)


Edit: I have taken 10mg Etilaam Etiz tonight with all my other usual meds and it is fuckin shit, how the fuck cunts find it euphoric beats me.

Again you will be underwhelmed .
 
Marmz
No, not at all.

Xanax is awesome for sleeping after speed. and Meth. I don't touch etiz and find it useless.

I recon the xanax is so good for sleep because it's so fast acting. And there's no fogginess/sleepiness in the morning either ... I feel clear and awake after xanax the next morning. It does build up in your system tho, and can affect your general dexterity, but that's a separate matter

Speed + xanax to sleep = perfect combo.

Doing em together like you were will probably affect the above and make it ineffective tho, so I'd avoid that like the plague (as I've said 1000 times already, I know)

Agreed on the sleep thing. Best sleeper ever for after amphetamines. Like I could dose say 150mg of very high purity speed in a day be functional and buzzing but 2mg Xanax a few hrs after the last dose and I'd sleep like a baby, no comedown because you've not overdone the amphetamine staying awake all night in a puddle of sweat and seamen.

The tolerance thing though is what put me off. And taught me a lesson. Xanax has little to no recreational potential at normal (ish) doses. You would need like 5mg in a glass of wine or something for any form of recreational buzz off it.

I can imagine it being the only way to consume meth with some form of sanity too. I want some meth myself but holding off ordering til new year time when I've more than a day or two off and will have Xanax around to sleep.

Brimz
Luckily u are alive more like , taking strong Opiates , Drinking & Tranquilisers . Lucky you spewed in the morning not when you were asleep.

Those three are like the Holy trinity of Death when combined .

I know man, very stupid of me indeed I was beating myself up about it the next day quite a bit. I'm done with oxy I think everytime I've had it I've shown it no respect consumed the whole lot in a night and wound up completely fucked. It was just the way I'd been in the pub and had no stims to consume but 5 oxy's at home so ate them instead, very stupid indeed.

In general I'm giving the prescription meds a rest and going to only use diazepam as far as possible for cases of anxiety/hangovers/comedowns.
 
Anyone else find Valium have a much more pronounced effect under the tongue, It always seems to have a much more narcotic calming feel. Since i been on taper i just swallowed them but today i decided meh and stuck a 5mg under the tongue its def more better then swallowing imo.

Anyone else agree, i always read so much conflicting reports but i honestly think Tongue > all
 
No I get a better hit swallowing them but I think that's just in my head. It is crucial to taste the first one under the tounge first though to decide whether it is actually diazepam you've been sold. I can usually tell straight away that bitter grittiness means they're good.
 
Waste of time dissolving em in your mouth, u defoe waste some of it and doesn't last as long, I used to do it when I was a mad Benzo Junkie, only time I'll take something sublingual now is if it's 2mg Xanax in a sticky situation, like if I'm going mad and losing the plot or heavy anxiety attack in a public place or something.
 
Waste of time dissolving em in your mouth, u defoe waste some of it and doesn't last as long, I used to do it when I was a mad Benzo Junkie, only time I'll take something sublingual now is if it's 2mg Xanax in a sticky situation, like if I'm going mad and losing the plot or heavy anxiety attack in a public place or something.

Is there any kind of marquis testing kit for benzo's to prove it is what it's sold as? I always just use the taste test cos I can tell if it's diazepam. And if you were to get piss tested would it differenciate which benzo's you'd taken?

I've wound up with that roches again. Dunno if they are right or not. They do give a hit similar to 10mg diazepam but I'm not entirely convinced it is really diazepam and not etizolam or some other newer cheaper benzo. After the weekends speed, vodka and 8 blues to sleep I woke up having sent a load of abuse to people I care about and no recollection of why I did it.

I think laying off the booze for a couple of weeks will help me avoid benzos so much aswell. Will only be using to chill after speed from now on. Couldn't get anymore of the cheap Xanax powder for the KO punch.
 
For what it's worth... I'm coming off a month of low-dose (3 to 6 mg a day) bromazepam (would be equivalent to 0.25 to 0.5 mg Xanax a day according to this) and I know, because I've already been there many times, that it would normally induce rebound insomnia for me. Like sleeping 2-3 hours a night the first couple of days, then 3-4 hours another couple of days, etc.

Again this time I went cold turkey 4 days ago and managed to get some sleep with the help of 10 mg Lexapro (escitalopram) before sleep. There are two caveat emptors though:
1) The sleep I got was shallow and I woke up about every hour;
2) Escitalopram is extremely sedating for me, to the point that I need to sleep up to 12 hours a day and then all I can think of is "must-go-to-bed". I know it can be activating for some people, so YMMV. Wildly so!
 
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As far as I'm aware piss tests will show up as benzos , or no benzos, not any specific benzo, but with etiz if ur getting tested for benzos youl pass same with Brotizolam cos they are Thieno's , a good way around it if they work for you I suppose, your Roches will be Diazepam mate, I think you are brainwashing yourself into thinking they are not, you spoke of they don't give you the same "hit", Diazepam doesn't give anybody a hit unless you have JUST started fucking with benzos and are taking stupid amounts, the day I realised that I couldn't get that old feeling back after taking 100mgs Diazepam and feeling nothing, I've never tried again since, nothing but medicine for people who really need them,

Right now as it stands I have allsorts of benzos put by and not 1 of them is recreational to me, I think the only way I could get some sort of "hit" from benzos now is if I smoked some quality weed with a heavy dose of some strong ass benzo, last time I felt anything recreational from Benzos was about a year ago from Temazepam and I had took handfuls of em 20mgs fucknows how many I took, was gubbing 10 at a time throughout the night , drinking and puffing as well, I was stressed at the time, If anybody knows of a recreational Benzo please share this info lol :)

Edit: I decided to give them Diclazepams another go, took a few tonight, more than a medicinal dose, feel nothing, gna try 5 of em tomorrow before I go out with no other Benzos to find out if they're worth getting the powder.
 
Your probably right there's just a funny taste off them. Regardless going to pick up 70 off a mate today, £50 ish so not too expensive. I seem to end up taking more when they're not uk script ones though and they make you more mongy fucked the next day.

Going to attempt to use these sparingly rather than eating them in a week.
 
Every 6 hours is my rule and I stick to it, respect Benzos or they'l cut ur throat when ur not looking, learned that a very painfull way, with the exception of Xanax, as and when required , even at that no more than 4mg per day to keep tolerance at bay, it's amazing how much I've lowered my tolerance over the last year.

Mind you I took 8mg Clonaz last night with a Joint and 2 Pint cans of TL last night for a kip haha

Tried them Diclazepams today with no benzos in me , took 5mg with my usual Gabapentin 300mg and ER tramadol 100mg, and there defoe alright benzos, a bit like Pyraz , no stupid sedation just a bit of anxiety relief, but out of all the RC's Pyraz is still champion to me, not tried this Flubromaz yet tho,

Gna order some 6mg Bromazepam and try them, think I'm just on a mission to try every benzo I can ATM haha, fuckit at least I'm sensible about it. :)
 
Im doing well on a scripted taper, from 50mg daily sometimes more, down to 14mg now. But fuck me, I now remember the reason I started taking the fuckers in the first place. All the acute anxiety is slapping me in the face. Im Dreading when im taking none. Back to square one.
 
maybe look into meditation HF. Thats what i intend to do when i start my etiz taper. Noah Levine is a guy who got into meditation after/during drugs problems, it can physiologically change your brain to make you calmer and happier. I was allways put off as it allways seemed kind of 'pie in the sky' and wtf is mindfullness etc, but Noah Levine promises to be a whole lot more accessable and down to earth, thats the angle i need to approach it from, not some abstract confusing intellectual gibbersih that i cannot grasp.

He has quite a few clips on youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=noah+levine&sm=1

but i think this is the one I'll start with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjhce63L0N4

theres a ton of related stuff on you tube

How Your Brain Can Turn Anxiety into Calmness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYJdekjiAog

i dont know yet which will be worthwhile, but the Noah Levine recommendation comes from a highly respected source.
 
HF well in for sticking it mate ;) I'll need to taper eventually but at the moment I've got myself down to a state where I can take 10mgs Diazepam every 6 hours from when I used to take 100+mgs plus every whenever I felt like it hours !

I'm in control now , they're not in control of me, bit at a time,

And that statement you made is the reason I tell cunts on here who take them for a "hit" to stay the fuck away, dancing with the devil , people fuckin with benzos who don't have anxiety and similar problems have no idea what they're getting themselves into.
 
It's been a long time since I read this thread. Even though I've found benzos recreational, in the past, with a few drinks, or whatever, I never use them like that now. I've taken them regularly for about 8 years, but they're purely medicinal for me (anxiety), or for coming down. I've been on a script for the last 3-4 years, with no increase in dose. I only take 15mg, every two days, and still feel every dose.

Alprazolam is by far the best benzo I've taken, because it almost instantly eradicates anxiety, and leaves me feeling amazingly calm (that's about as recreational as they get for me). Apparently, a small amount of people never get withdrawals from benzos (or alcohol), and I believe I may be one of those lucky people. I've been irresponsible, in the past (chronic alcoholic/benzo user), and not ended up in a withdrawing mess. I don't ever plan on testing that theory again, however.

As for sticking benzos up your bum (which I've never actually tried), I've just discovered that diazepam is actually available as a suppository, but has a bioavailability of 90%, as opposed to 100% orally (Wikipedia). You learn something new...
 
Well so far I've tried

Diazepam (scripted)
Librium
Alprazolam
Temazepam
Oxazepam
Lorazepam
Clonazepam
Nitrazepam
Pyrazolam
Diclazepam
Etiz (if u wanna count that)

And Out of that bunch I'll take Valium and Librium for maintenance, Alpraz for emergencys, Clonaz is good for sleep and that's it, I read an article 1 time about some woman who had tried every benzo under the sun and she said she always goes back to good old reliable Valium.

No matter what benzos I take If if I take Clonaz instead of Diaz I will still Crave Diaz, Diazepam, it's what my body needs, and combined with Librium is absolutely magic for me,

Not gna lie while I've got the chance I'm still gna try n have a bit a fun gna get some Bromaz, Midaz and Triazolam, looking for a right good benzo sleeper, and apparently Bromaz are nice wee pills much like Valium/Librium, I'll find out soon, but them Oxazepams 30mgs are total pish, unless they were highly underdosed or some shit, I tried 5 at once , nothing, just a wee tiny bit of childness.

Edit: Alprazolam is like an essential to me, I don't have any just now but when I have em I wont leave the house without em, and the Pyrazolams are back ups cos they're a bit like Xanax and water soluble so they kick in quick in moments of madness , 4mg down the hatch can calm me down a bit, 10mgs Diazepam every 6 hours with 2mgs Alprazolam as and when required, that seems like a sensible script to me, now just need to find a super sleeper, hopefully Triazolam or Midaz sorts it, there are loads more but heard that Midaz is strong shit.
 
I can't be bothered going through the list, and ranking the ones I've tried. However, if I'm going to pick the shittiest (well-known) benzo, then lorazepam wins, by a mile. I don't think I've ever been satisfied with any dose of it. It's as if it does absolutely nothing to me. As for combos; diazepam, clonazepam and alprazolam is pretty hard to beat.
 
I fucked up my taper these last few days, was supposed to be dropping to 5mg this week. thing is i got spare pills anyway today i had a job interview which is always a major cause of anxiety for me. Fucking ended up doing 2.5mg last night around 1 cos i couldnt fall sleep then this morning did a further 12.5 mg before the interview.

I got 2 hours sleep last night, without the Valium i would of been fked in that interview. But i did alright regardless but yeh messed up the taper pretty bad
 
I fucked up my taper these last few days, was supposed to be dropping to 5mg this week. thing is i got spare pills anyway today i had a job interview which is always a major cause of anxiety for me. Fucking ended up doing 2.5mg last night around 1 cos i couldnt fall sleep then this morning did a further 12.5 mg before the interview.

I got 2 hours sleep last night, without the Valium i would of been fked in that interview. But i did alright regardless but yeh messed up the taper pretty bad

It's not about how many times you fall down , It's about how many times you get back up , carry on where you left off soldier ;)
 
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