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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

THECATINTHEHAT said:
Not really, it's a strongly amnesiac hypnotic benzo with a very short half life so pretty diffferent really. It's also one of the few water soluble benzos.

I have no 1st hand experience though.
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all you say is true, except it IS a nice benzo. quite euphoric. very nice if you can be arsed to prep for IV safely, but just taken sublingually, theyre quite wonderful. you definitely know ylure on em!
 
It didn't say it wasn't a nice benzo. It's at the heavy duty end of the hypnotics which for me suggests it would be up there with the most recreational.
 
I think a ban must be on the way I have no hard evidence for this just a feeling. The danger being many people have been thinking the same way for a good while in my experience and have been hoarding, stocking up and just ended up banging more and more and more which defeats the initial object and in turn means that more people are becoming reliant, tolerant, addicted? to them...and then of course a ban is felt to be required.

I know someone who takes about 12 a day and manages to work through the day..don't touch the sides. I also know someone with real genuine diagnosis of social anxiety and they genuinely help and they take small doses and perhaps that may be healthier if kept under control in small doses rather than drinking themselves stupid in order to be able to socialise and function-Etizolam as a genuine functional medication...is it not actually prescribed in is is Japan? (hmm off to google).

Rarely take them (etz)anymore..for comedowns they are ok but as an aid for sleep..which is what I need they do allow you to get to sleep sometimes and or more quickly but the sleep is non REM sleep..zombification inducing and tolerance in my case did build it up pretty quickly. Diaz are useless, xanax not much better -zopiclone seem to have given up the ghost and I once thought were an insomniacs literal beautiful dream..but again...that kind of unrested, dead sleep....ampitriptaline seems to work and someone suggested lyrica but hmm ,melatonin don't work anymore...I just give up. Have a few diclazepam but took one and again just etz like and someone warned me they are dodgy as fuck for black outs so.

Tried everything pretty much for sleep..I really find no recreational pleasure from benzo/z/thenzo drugs...I get no euphoria from I just love stims always have...

Current wiki states this regarding legal status

Legal status

United States

As of August 2014 Etizolam is not authorized for medical use in the U.S. However, it currently remains unscheduled and is legal for research purposes. As its closet derivative is a Schedule IV drug under Federal Scheduling Guidelines, it does not fall under the Federal Analog Act, which only applies to Schedule I and II drugs.[19]

The state of Arkansas has proposed listing Etizolam as a Schedule I drug under their drug scheduling guidelines.[20] Along with the state of Mississippi [21]

Germany

Etizolam was controlled in Germany in July 2013.[22]

Poland

Etizolam may be scheduled under the Act on Counteracting Drug Addiction and the State Sanitary Inspection -Article 27c

United Kingdom (U.K)

Not controlled as of July 2013.[citation needed]

I dunno..any way stranger waves at FG...<3
 
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I have quit all benzos, but with a highly likley ban coming in, I am gonna take full advantage of this ridiculously cheap etiz. If I stock pile some now its gonna be there for comedowns for the next decade.
 
Where can I look to see evidence House of the likely ban..there seems a lot of anxiety (oh the irony) about it but I haven't been able to see any suggested government ban..just murmerings on other drug forums etc..Can you link me anything?

Edit=people rarely talk about using Promethazine as a comedown drug...easily available and actually does knock me out good and proper but no use to me in the longterm as the groggy 'hangover' I get is worse than taking large doses of etz..Phenothiazine usually sold in uk as an antihistamine under name Phennegran? phenegan? is also used to treat insomnia...so where is the panic about the etz ban...well obviously there is real panic and worry. But everything effects people so differently ..never been so scared in my life as the time camphetamine (spelling?) interacted badly with the etz I took to slow my fucked heart down..never tripped like it and for so long..thought I had snapped my mind..lasted a week..banged on about it many a time but really was with the exception of the booze and vast twofar 'incident' terrifying..
 
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There isnt any lit online about a ban (that I can find anyway). I am just assuming theres gonna be one because of what the vendors are doing, selling super cheap and not restocking. Its one of if not their best sellers, something must be going on, for them to do that.
 
aghh interesting, had no idea about that...I being one of those mass hoarder types not bought any for a looong time.Quality,dosage control being so unstable in the loose pressed ones of many shades of blue to turquoise meant I just bought intas...but surely if they 'the vendors' know something we don't it would make more sense to push prices up for the panic buying??? rather than selling cheap.

Did some digging apparently a new etz like drug coming on market as a replacement..hmm still makes no sense with no real talk of a real ban..maybe this is just something they can make more money on...but from what I read in those 'other' forums people say it's not even that similar..sorry mods a bit fucked would like to quote some bits but suspect as they openly in general discuss vendors not allowed or is it?

All a bit odd..if it aint broke, it aint banned and there is demand for etz as a product why?????
 
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inflorescence said:
aghh interesting, had no idea about that...I being one of those mass hoarder types not bought any for a looong time.Quality,dosage control being so unstable in the loose pressed ones of many shades of blue to turquoise meant I just bought intas...but surely if they 'the vendors' know something we don't it would make more sense to push prices up for the panic buying??? rather than selling cheap..
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Same, when I was addicted to the little blue bellends, I would always buy Intas and Etilam. Vendors all used to sell blisters, then for some reason blisters were much harder to procure, so vendors pressed their own. By the time that happened I got a diaz script to taper. It took nearly a year of tapering to stop. On the price thing, Ive never known the price to rise before a ban these vendors carry tons, so if a ban is coming in they need to just get rid of all their stock asap-otherwise its getting binned or they will be in possesion of a comercial amount of illegal drugs.
 
Ahh good point well made...they kept al-lad to the very end though stayed at non reduced prices..although maybe there was in hindsight just less actually about..?thinking a little fuxerated...but hmm curious and curiouser...really need to go back to beginning of this thread and read it all properly...suspect I am just gibbering about what has already been said but much less articulately...
 
no ive had them before heads just zappy and foggy at the minute ill be ok

not to sound off but best that could happen is that i have while i sleep and know nothing about it would solve a lot of problems
 
HouseFever said:
I have quit all benzos, but with a highly likley ban coming in, I am gonna take full advantage of this ridiculously cheap etiz. If I stock pile some now its gonna be there for comedowns for the next decade.
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yeah judging from whats available from the well known vendors it looks like etiz is definately on the way out, that's really quite worrying. It's going to either force me to stockpile or to get cracking with a taper.
 
foolsgold said:
no ive had them before heads just zappy and foggy at the minute ill be ok

not to sound off but best that could happen is that i have while i sleep and know nothing about it would solve a lot of problems
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PLEASE go to A&E or get some form of GABA Agonist / releasing agent.

Having a fit while sleeping could find yourself waking with blood all over yrself n a knash in yer tongue (at best)
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Overdone the vallies a bit i think, been feeling pretty bollocks the past few days
 
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