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anyone try the e2 test kits from ez test that are supposed to test for mda,mdma, and all of the such?
did it work ok?
would you recommend it?
should one just stick to the first generation of kits?
 
ok first we have to define some terms:
EZ Test have recently released a second generation testing kit called the "EZ Test Supreme". This can, apparently, differentiate between MDA and MDMA/EA.
Chemical Generation released a few months ago their second generation kit called "E2: 2nd Defence". This can also show the diffence between MDA and MDMA/EA, but not as clearly, i think, as "EZ Test Supreme". "E2: 2nd Defence" can also indicate the presence of other chemicals such as PMA, Ketamine and Methamphetamine.
I can't comment on the effectiveness of the "EZ Test Supreme" as i havent had a chance to use one yet. I have used the "E2: 2nd Defence" a lot recently and have found it very effective in the indication of ketamine and somewhat effective in the indication of MDA.
oh and dont blame me for the confusion, blame whoever named them
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[This message has been edited by johnboy (edited 25 May 2001).]
 
well i wouldn't call it a "second generation" testing kit... the Marquis and Mandelin reagent tests are both very old and neither is really all that much better than the other. there are ways to fool both of them. Mandelin is certainly better at detecting ketamine and probably better at detecting MDA (but remember early Marquis test kits also claimed they could detect MDA).
both test kits used together (which is what they recommend) should provide fairly conclusive qualitative identification of a sample, particularly for a sample that has a positive result in both kits.
 
i should add it's highly unlikely that a simple test kit could ever be developed for differentiating MDMA and MDEA... not all that much of a problem since the two are almost exactly equal in synthetic difficulty and the demand for MDMA is much higher...
 
as a commercially available testing kit, packaged in this manner and aimed at these markets, they are a "second generation kit". i was just using the terms used by the companies that release them. remember in this forum we are first and for most talking about commercial products.
[This message has been edited by johnboy (edited 27 May 2001).]
 
no one said they've got an EZ Test Supreme yet... all comments i've made have been based on reading i have done about the particular agent that, i think, the EZ Test Supreme is (Simon's Reagent). I wont make any real judgement on that product until i get one to test for myself.
 
does someone know if the E2 testkit can be fooled when a pill for example contains 50-50 mdma-pma?
 
you probably wouldn't get 50:50, more like 80:20 at the most; the MDMA is basically a decoy.
you may be able to detect PMA if you're very careful. follow the "advanced testing technique" in the chemgen faq, watch everything closely, and assume that *any* green or orange color means PMA. still, a mixture of green and dark blue or purple would be difficult to detect.
TLC will separate the components, and there is a possibility that you may get some separation with chromatography paper, but i'd have to try it. MDMA has a molecular weight about 10% higher than PMA so it's *possible* you might get at least a thin line of green above the liquid front.
someone should try that btw.. i dont have a test kit because i don't *need* one.. but if the method works it's extremely simple.
 
ok chromatography paper? want to give one of your in depth explanations on that for us slow ones?
feel free to open a new thread on it, rather than post it in here...
 
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