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DXM to feel the feelings of divorce

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thedawn

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hi all,
I just got divorced after 15 years.'
quite a shock.
I need to process these feelings and look at myself and the person
I want to be now.i'm a musician.blues 1920-50.
Blind lemon Jefferson,Son House,Robert Johnson and Skip James touch my soul.

now,I have just ordered some DXM which i know nothing about apart from'
that it's sacred in certain cultures,is a hallucinogen and like acid.

i ordered crystals,dont remember the mgs.i think 350.
I'm not lookin to party or do anything crazy.
I plan a day off,have ordered some new blues box sets from amazon
to keep me entertained.

i don't know anything about dosages.
should i just do a line and see what happens?
does anyone have experience?
I'm planning to do this DXM in about a week,waiting for information on how to be safe.

please,if you have experience w DXM,give a holler.

I look forward to tripping agin.it's been 20 years.
 
Hi thedawn. DXM may be exactly the right kind of thing for self examination after such a large event.
First things first though, it is not sacred, it is not a hallucinogen, and it is nothing like acid.
Dextromethorphan (DXM) is an active ingredient in some cough medicine preparations, it is a dissociative, and it is way more similar to something like PCP than LSD.
I have many years of experience with DXM, and I find it perfect for self re-evaluation and similar such things. The dose of DXM varies depending on your weight, so 350mg should give a solid 2nd plateau trip for someone around 75kgs. Dont snort it. Take it orally with a small amount of alcohol to increase absorption.
More info here.

www.erowid.org/dxm
 
I'm a recovering alcoholic and can't even taste it.so that's out.
I weigh 180 kilos,normal,350mg is becoming more likely.

is DXM known to cause psychosis in pre-disposed people?
 
what ^he said
btw where did you get the info that DXM is sacred?
definitely take it all at once, anything less will be underwhelming if you're looking for personal examination, maybe even 350 mgs won't be enough but IMHO it's up to you and your mindset during the trip
 
DXM isn't really the drug for what you're looking for.

and you've got dxm all wrong if you think watching DVDs on it is going to be entertaining. DXM shines most in the "inner world" like if you close your eyes and meditate while on it in complete silence and stillness and let it take you away. Focusing on the outer world on DXM (movies, other people etc) is just boring and you almost don't even get the hallucinogenic effects in that way. Its more about music and meditation while on dxm. and by mediatation i don't mean you have to really meditate, but just close your eyes.

I think MDMA would be best for helping you accept your life and divorce. maybe some mushrooms if you're feeling brave and really ready to be exposed to yourself in a brutal way.
 
thedawn said:
that it's sacred in certain cultures,is a hallucinogen and like acid.
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Where did you heard that? As far as I know, DXM has not that long history within human use. It was first introduced in 1949

Dextromethorphan was identified as one of three compounds tested as part of US Navy and CIA-funded research that sought a "nonaddictive substitute for codeine"; it is implied that the compound was first found to have clinical potential in this study.[41] It was first patented in 1949.[42] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved dextromethorphan as a prescription antitussive drug on September 24, 1954, and subsequently as an over-the-counter cough suppressant in 1958.
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From wikipedia. Erowid says 1958. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_timeline.php


I think MDMA would be best for helping you accept your life and divorce.
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This.
 
I also got DMT just a little bit.
would that be the same or different?

again,this is not for partying.it's for my soul.needs healing.

after reading BL i think DMT might b better.

yeah or no?
 
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Idk about the dmt, you need a good mind set and an optimistic outlook going into such an intense experience, have you smoked dmt before?
I'm not saying you'll freak out or anything but it could put some shit right in your vision that you don't want to see, given your situation

I'll echo mdma though, it would be the best for trying to accept this
Actually a sober mind would prolly be the best, even if you don't want to hear that
 
thedawn, sorry to hear about your divorce :(

First thing you should do is take a small dose (40-60 mg) to see if you are allergic or sensitive. Give that at least a couple hours before jumping all the way in. If you had more material to work with, it would help to increase your dosage over a number of sessions to get a feel for the drug.

elucidator said:
First things first though, it is not sacred
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A substance doesn't have to have 1000s of years of traditional use in order to be considered sacred. DXM is sacred to some.

it is not a hallucinogen
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It can cause hallucinations, so is it not an hallucinogen?
 
Sacred sounds like something like peyote being used by Native Americans or indigenous peoples' use of ayahuasca in South American amazons as religius or spiritual traditions which sounds kinda weird when it comes to DXM. My first thought was that maybe OP was confused and meant some other substance. Like an entheogen, and I wouldnt put DXM under the entheogen category.
 
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exists said:
thedawn, sorry to hear about your divorce :(

First thing you should do is take a small dose (40-60 mg) to see if you are allergic or sensitive. Give that at least a couple hours before jumping all the way in. If you had more material to work with, it would help to increase your dosage over a number of sessions to get a feel for the drug.



A substance doesn't have to have 1000s of years of traditional use in order to be considered sacred. DXM is sacred to some.



It can cause hallucinations, so is it not an hallucinogen?
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"Hallucinogens are a general group of pharmacological agents that can be divided into three broad categories: psychedelics, dissociatives, and deliriants." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen

Well, Benadryl (diphenhydramine) causes hallucinations, but it's a deliriant. DXM is a dissociative hallucinogen.

I didn't realize that hallucinogen was a term that covered all these - before digging in deeper as a result of this thread, I thought it was interchangeable with the word 'psychedelic'.
 
Bill said:
Idk about the dmt, you need a good mind set and an optimistic outlook going into such an intense experience, have you smoked dmt before?
I'm not saying you'll freak out or anything but it could put some shit right in your vision that you don't want to see, given your situation

I'll echo mdma though, it would be the best for trying to accept this
Actually a sober mind would prolly be the best, even if you don't want to hear that
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On that note, you may be interested in learning more about PEYOTE/MESCALINE/SAN PEDRO... incredible teacher/guide... MUCH better than DXM...
 
xammy said:
Sacred sounds like something like peyote being used by Native Americans or indigenous peoples' use of ayahuasca in South American amazons as religius or spiritual traditions which sounds kinda weird when it comes to DXM. My first thought was that maybe OP was confused and meant some other substance. Like an entheogen, and I wouldnt put DXM under the entheogen category.
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According to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entheogen


Main Entry...... entheogen
Part of Speech.. n
Definition...... any substance, such as a plant or drug, taken to bring on a spiritual experience
Example......... Entheogen is supposed to be a kinder term than hallucinogen or psychedelic.
Etymology....... lit. 'generating the divine within'
Usage........... entheogenic adj
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I think DXM has the necessary characteristics to be considered an entheogen. It may not have a long history of traditional use or come from a natural source, but it can facilitate spiritual experiences. It should be well-suited for thedawn's purposes.
 
exists said:
It can cause hallucinations, so is it not an hallucinogen?
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My apologies dude, what I should really have said, is that it is not sacred to any long standing indigenous culture, it is not a hallucinogen at this dose range, and it can be somewhat similar to acid but has many notable differences.

I realize now that any substance can be sacred for various cultures/individuals, and that myself in the past had held dxm as being somewhat similar to being sacred, so it was wrong of me to declare otherwise.
In my experience with dxm I have not experienced any legit hallucinations on the lower 2 plateaus. It can definitely become a hallucinogen at higher doses, but i have trouble calling low dose dxm hallucinogenic, in the sense of a hallucinogen being a substance that causes unreal things to be experienced as being 100% real.
I am sorry for any confusion that my original response to the op may have caused, and i would like to add a +1 to what lucidsdreamr said about how dxm shines most in the inner world, and that watching a movie on it would be pointless.
 
yeah,i'm planning how to take it now.

empty house.blues on the stereo.my guitars close by.

will start w low doses,then work myself up.
 
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