This is not a real scientific anatomical discussion, more of a "Hey that was really interesting, I wonder if.." discussion. Recently, I was on a three day journey with varying doses of DXM and I, being a naturally very dizzy person with an odd inner ear, could barely walk straight because DXM accentuates that inner ear issue. But nearing the end of my journey, I noticed I could walk just fine, even though I knew nothing had changed. I was not cured, I was just adapted. I thought this was just so cool, and it hailed back to a scientific experiment that was conducted where this scientist had special glasses on 24/7 that turned his vision upside down, but after several days, his upside down vision with the glasses on righted itself, and when he took the glasses off, his vision naturally was that upside down vision. Anyway that was very cool, so I wanted to share it, and see if anyone else had a similar experience.
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DXM & The Brain
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Yes the brain is very good at correcting anomalies or changes. Another example that I think is appropriate is visual adjustment. If you look at a red screen at point blank for a while and then look around you, your visual field compensates by making everything green. It works the same with light and dark and even with motion, if you recall the black and while spirals you can watch to induce wobbly distortions.
This seems to be an innate competence, that I guess extends to any information the brain processes although on conceptual levels it might become quite difficult to imagine. By that I mean that in sensory and motoric systems it can be 'calculated' how to compensate whereas with cognitive systems this might not be possible the same way.
Also there are limits to what can be compensated. I think that there has to be some constant or static to the change, otherwise if it is too dynamic the brain keeps on trailing a few steps behind.
That is why I think that what happened to you is either compensation of a balance problem that has some regularity, or tolerance that developed to a part of the DXM effects but not all of them.
Considering that you imply that you are generally sensitive to vertigo I suspect it is the latter, since you seem unable to fully compensate for any physical inner ear issues when sober.
It would be a far-fetched possibility that DXM would enhance your coping and compensating abilities after first making it worse by complicating the same matters.
And yeah stuff like this is cool IMO - and the upside down glasses experiment is awesome. I assume then that you know that visual information sent by the eye is initially upside down naturally (basic optics / physics theory) and the brain naturally flips it which is another demonstration of information manipulation and adjustment happening in healthy individuals.
This seems to be an innate competence, that I guess extends to any information the brain processes although on conceptual levels it might become quite difficult to imagine. By that I mean that in sensory and motoric systems it can be 'calculated' how to compensate whereas with cognitive systems this might not be possible the same way.
Also there are limits to what can be compensated. I think that there has to be some constant or static to the change, otherwise if it is too dynamic the brain keeps on trailing a few steps behind.
That is why I think that what happened to you is either compensation of a balance problem that has some regularity, or tolerance that developed to a part of the DXM effects but not all of them.
Considering that you imply that you are generally sensitive to vertigo I suspect it is the latter, since you seem unable to fully compensate for any physical inner ear issues when sober.
It would be a far-fetched possibility that DXM would enhance your coping and compensating abilities after first making it worse by complicating the same matters.
And yeah stuff like this is cool IMO - and the upside down glasses experiment is awesome. I assume then that you know that visual information sent by the eye is initially upside down naturally (basic optics / physics theory) and the brain naturally flips it which is another demonstration of information manipulation and adjustment happening in healthy individuals.
lazydullard
Bluelighter
I think DXM heals your brain, but I'm crazy.
DXM, when I was new to it, would distort my balance for a few days afterward after a heavy binge. Now after like 5 years of heavy use it doesn't affect my balance sober or high.
I now only get double vision when I book it above 12mg/kg, but not every time? And being high on DXM, and for a day or sometimse 2 days afterward, greatly reduces my light sensitivity in my eyes. It's the difference between squinting when I'm outdoors and not squinting.
DXM, when I was new to it, would distort my balance for a few days afterward after a heavy binge. Now after like 5 years of heavy use it doesn't affect my balance sober or high.
I now only get double vision when I book it above 12mg/kg, but not every time? And being high on DXM, and for a day or sometimse 2 days afterward, greatly reduces my light sensitivity in my eyes. It's the difference between squinting when I'm outdoors and not squinting.
Medicineman94
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DXM (polyesterex) always really messed up my ability to focus my vision and to coordinate my motions. It was so severe thati did not attempt to get up out of bed. One time when i took off my shirt i literally punched myself in the face. Not my proudest moment haha. And i always felt really stupid a couple days after i took it. I dont think DXM will cause legions in your brain, but i dont see it impacting the brain, or my conciousness in any positive long term way.
TheAppleCore
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Very interesting observation indeed. 
I found something vaguely similar with MXE -- at first, MXE would almost completely mute my intellect, but after prolonged usage of MXE, my intellect seemingly adapted defenses to the drug's assault, and I was able to problem-solve while high.
Anyway, my conclusion is that one should be very wary of DXM's long-term cognitive effects, even moreso than MXE -- I always seem to suffer penalties to my cognition after even a single DXM trip, the most obvious of which relate to memory. Often, in the week following a DXM trip, I will "blank" on really obvious or simple words during conversations, or suddenly forget things that I should easily remember, like the entirety of the previous day, or something along those lines. It has pretty much frightened me away from ever tripping on DXM again.
I'll probably be able to count the number of MXE trips I have henceforth on one or two hands, due to entirely different worrying symptoms, like long-term apathy and anhedonia. It seems that NMDA antagonistic dissociatives are nothing more than the apple of Eden, for me. A trip that is tenfold as magical and beautiful as I imagine even the strongest opiate glow to be, but always some sort of devilish catch.
I found something vaguely similar with MXE -- at first, MXE would almost completely mute my intellect, but after prolonged usage of MXE, my intellect seemingly adapted defenses to the drug's assault, and I was able to problem-solve while high.Anyway, my conclusion is that one should be very wary of DXM's long-term cognitive effects, even moreso than MXE -- I always seem to suffer penalties to my cognition after even a single DXM trip, the most obvious of which relate to memory. Often, in the week following a DXM trip, I will "blank" on really obvious or simple words during conversations, or suddenly forget things that I should easily remember, like the entirety of the previous day, or something along those lines. It has pretty much frightened me away from ever tripping on DXM again.
I'll probably be able to count the number of MXE trips I have henceforth on one or two hands, due to entirely different worrying symptoms, like long-term apathy and anhedonia. It seems that NMDA antagonistic dissociatives are nothing more than the apple of Eden, for me. A trip that is tenfold as magical and beautiful as I imagine even the strongest opiate glow to be, but always some sort of devilish catch.