[DXM Subthread] First Time

[Solipsis]

You can get very dizzy from alcohol with dissociatives like DXM, I would seriously limit or exclude any drinking if you possibly can (it is your own choice I guess ).

100-150 mg shouldn't produce a whole lot of effects but can very well be enough to feel things from it. At around 300 though it seems to become enough to actually do anything with it so to speak.
There are quite a lot of people who do not react very well to DXM, and I am not talking about the CYP P450 2D6 enzyme deficiency - I am just talking general metabolism and reaction to it. It would be best to start off low (true for pretty much any drug though). If you do have the enzyme deficiency you could really feel like absolutely weirded out shit if you had then taken a larger dose.

If you have cough syrup or pills that contain DXM only you probably won't become nauseous, one possibility is from cough gells though - the gelatine from a high dose might make you nauseous.

Pure powder is certainly the best choice, again true for pretty much any drug (except some natural products perhaps), my friend told me it was less effective that way though because in antitussive (anti cough) formulae there is generally a carrier that helps your body absorb it. He uses PEG - poly ethylene glycol - to bind the DXM and help absorb it, he says it helps.

If you are in the UK, search around the web for the products that contain DXM that are available to you OTC. It could be that you are going to want to order this off the internet, but if you are doing that you might as well get the pure stuff. Oops am I reading that DXM is a controlled substance in the UK? That sucks, if you can't get it prescribed it is becoming almost as illegal as ketamine hehe.
No one post any website links though, thats unwanted.

Your thread is merged with this DXM subthread, for future reference if you want to find the appropriate thread right away go to the big blue link at the top of the main page of Psychedelic Drugs, the link to the Psychedelic Index.
In the index you will find DXM and on the DXM page you will find the subthreads.

Thanks!

 

[PROZ4C]

Just throwing in my 2cents about DXM...

I've noticed it really is for some people but not others. I think the experience / reaction is vastly different from one individual to another, and there is some scientific evidence to support why this would be the case. (DXM to DXO conversion ratio based on different enzyme levels)

I've had many LSD and Shroom trips before ever messing with DXM and oddly found it to be one of the most profound learning experiences from a drug.

I have noticed that set and setting have more of an effect with DXM than either shrooms or LSD, much more so actually.

I would say DXM is much more similar to shrooms than LSD but still very much its own experience.

Anyone who thinks DXM is not a legitimate drug or is in some way inferior to other traditional psychedelics must be one of the unfortunate ones who gets bad / useless trips because in some ways I might even say I enjoyed it more than LSD or shrooms.

DXM has a very unpredictable and strange tolerance effect... For a short period of time it was actually my favorite trip, but something changed and the experience is not the same for me anymore... some call it "losing the magic" I am not sure how this really happens but even with extended long term breaks form it the "magic" has not came back and I really don't enjoy it anymore. Quite a shame because I got about 5-6 amazing trips from it before that happened.

***** If you want to get the most out of DXM you should really look into potentiation by drinking large amounts of grapefruit juice leading up to a trip and then taking the DXM on an empty stomach!

Honestly never messed around with a 1st plateau dose but many many many 2nd plateau doses... some amazing 3rd

Then I spent 3 days low dosing, then dropped a 4th plateau dose and came down into sigma for the next 3-4 days...

Quite an amazing experience but since then like I said it "lost the magic" and I have had nothing be crappy trips even waiting a year later

 

[catfish swiming]

Just drank 200mg of dxm 20 minutes ago. for the first time. Is this a good first dose? It only has dextromethorpan hydrobromide. is this the best one?

 

[mooms]

i took a 150mg test dose 5 hours ago which had absolutely no effect. im mostly looking for a more euphoric or drunk/stoned high rather than a trip. i would prefer not to reach 3rd plateu and possibly freak out my GF.

im thinking 450mg tomorrow. does this amount seem appropriate?

and, should i wait 3+ days for the 150mg from today to wear off instead of dosing tomorrow?

ive been using the Plateau Calculator at http://dextroverse.org/whatis.html <-- i weigh 75kg

 

[seanm83]

for me 150 would be enough to feel drunk/stoned and slightly trippy, and I'm 200 lbs. I guess because I've done it so many times I know the effects and what I'm going for whether it's low or high dose. double that and I'm tripping pretty good, but not too intense, very euphoric and spacey. Then double that and I barely know what's going on, it's still fun, I have only had one bad trip my first time I took too much and went to see a movie, it freaked me out and walking around the mall like a robot made me extremely uncomfortable when my other 2 friends were sober. but over 300 to me is a pretty good feel for a higher dose experience like I said, Most of my trips weren't really bad, if anything they were just kind of like purgatory rather than hell (compared to mushrooms for example) I guess because it's a dissasociative, i'm so numb I can't really contemplate a bad mood, and it gives me a great body high almost like mild exstasy or shrooms, combined with a nice mindfuck sort of like acid I guess (only done it 1 time weak acid) but not anything like any of those being that it's mind numbing rather than enhancing

 

[seanm83]

I'd say if 150 didn't work, try something between 200 and 250 and you should feel it pretty good, my first few times I didn't, but after I did too much I was almost scared to do it again, but I said what the hell and drank a bottle of robo cough suppressant, just dxm, and it hit me pretty hard for such a low dose, it was very hard to figure out the effects, but after 2, I knew I was tripping, it's a weird trip, but feels good very mellow and I notice ordinary things seem a lot more interesting, I stared at a fish some guy had caught at the pier, it looked like a fish and all, but for some reason the fish and the fire seemed "perfect" and relaxing in a strange way a nice mellow glow

 

[seanm83]

the come up is smooth to me now, I start feeling spaced out and lost, then the peak is kind of ecstatic in an anti-ecstatic way, the come down is introspective but interesting, and the next day I feel good but spacey, the only bad thing is during the trip I can move around fine and do things, but it's hard to make certain movements (that's why it's called robo-trippin) so you would probably look bizarre in public but u wouldn't care, and it's hard to follow a normal conversation from point a to point b, i sort of conceptualize everything and ask a lot of "so you're saying this or that" when if i was sober I wouldn't have to ask because it would be understood simple stuff anyway, enjoy 200 you should be good even 250 you wouldn't be out of it, but might look funny in front of your girl moreso than usual, but not completely bizarre, you could still function relatively speaking

 

[seanm83]

oh yea and you get a lot of bad gas and uncomfortable bowels on the come down, i don't really notice it as i'm still trippin, but it's sort of a negative side-effect nonetheless

 

[whataboutheforests]

so I have a bottle of robitussin cough long lasting syrup. It's 15 mg in each 5 mL tsp. If the bottle is 118 mL, i calculated it out to contain 354 mg dxm in all. Is this correct?

I have never tripped on dxm or done any dissassociatives before, what is a good starting dose?

 

[pharmakos]

i took a 150mg test dose 5 hours ago which had absolutely no effect. im mostly looking for a more euphoric or drunk/stoned high rather than a trip. i would prefer not to reach 3rd plateu and possibly freak out my GF.

im thinking 450mg tomorrow. does this amount seem appropriate?

and, should i wait 3+ days for the 150mg from today to wear off instead of dosing tomorrow?

ive been using the Plateau Calculator at http://dextroverse.org/whatis.html <-- i weigh 75kg

450mg might be a good spot to start, but if i were you i'd try 300mg first. since you didn't feel much from the 150mg dose, you could probably get away with dosing again tomorrow.

 

[mooms]

450mg might be a good spot to start, but if i were you i'd try 300mg first. since you didn't feel much from the 150mg dose, you could probably get away with dosing again tomorrow.

i ended up dropping 420mg before seeing your reply. it turned out ok though. was dizzy, restless and slightly nauseous 30-75 mins after dosing. didnt like that. it mellowed out after 75min and felt pretty good for about 90 more mins. had a few ciders on the way down to keep it going.

 

[bignbrown]

I done DXM about a year ago but only managed to do a very low dose and dont remember much of it, i got a gram of pure powder here in the mail this morning and im wondering what it is like in 250mg doses, what should i expect, side effects?

I remember i only dosed around 200mg last time, felt like i had done a small line of ketamine but more energetic. I know this drug gives alot of people bad side effects so if i try it will only try it in small doses and work my way up.

I heard nausea and other side effects is a problem but thats mainly with OTC products/syrups, not the powder?

any tips appreciated thanks

ps: I had 100mg 5htp about 24 hours ago, by the time i do the dxm it will be around 30 hours, should be safe yes?

 

[Flickering]

^^ Personally I'd leave at least three days before and after trips where one of them is DXM, but of course it's up to you. Worth noting too that most recommend leaving two weeks between DXM trips, or one at the very least.

Interesting you got powder in the mail. I've thought about extracting it because the 66% of goop that makes up the syrup is a waste and not pleasant to drink (though apparently raw DXM is worse) and probably part of why it makes people throw up. But the methods for extraction involve such things as amonia, and having absolutely no experience in chemistry, I decided not to toy with that shit. In a similar sense, I'd question how safe pure DXM powder is if you buy it online. Probably fine and better for you but, be careful.

250mg sounds like a smart starting dose, especially for the reason I mentioned above. If that works fine, maybe try a high plateau 2 trip next?

Personally, I got nausea both times I used DXM, but it was far worse the first time (120mg, and nausea was pretty much one of two features of the experience). The second time, I made sure to lie down and not move. The nausea was slight and passed quickly. I think part of it was my body acclimatizing to the stuff, part of it was the nasty syrup, and part of it was motion sickness. If I'm right, you can counter the first with a small starting dose, the second with extracted powder, and the third by not moving from about the first hour in through to the second.

When I did dxm, I chugged the rest of my medicine bottle because I wanted my cold to be gone once and for all, afterwards I looked on it and saw it had DXM and some minor stimulant in it. In like 15 minutes I was violently throwing up the oranges I ate not long ago, then I had to go to school tripping mildly..

Thought I'd comment on this. Dextromethorphan is a cough suppressant. It does absolutely nothing to make your cold go away. It gives you relief from coughing for six to eight hours, by literally turning off the part of your brain that coughs. Which sounds like a bad bad idea to me, especially because it's in paediatric cough syrups. But whatever.

 

[pharmakos]

I done DXM about a year ago but only managed to do a very low dose and dont remember much of it, i got a gram of pure powder here in the mail this morning and im wondering what it is like in 250mg doses, what should i expect, side effects?

The DXM FAQ by William White, section 5.2 -- Overview of the Lower Plateaus

I heard nausea and other side effects is a problem but thats mainly with OTC products/syrups, not the powder?

The powder will still produce nausea, just not as bad as OTC products.

ps: I had 100mg 5htp about 24 hours ago, by the time i do the dxm it will be around 30 hours, should be safe yes?

you'll be fine.

 

[YaniCZka]

female, 56kg, no tolerance. tried 135mg (2,4mg per kg of body weight) of pure dxm (mixed in water) to achieve 1st platau but felt nothing. no euphoria or stimulation or visuals, just a bit slowed down i am not interested in tripping but was after "being drunk on stimulants" feeling which is said to be 1st platau...

 

[pharmakos]

female, 56kg, no tolerance. tried 135mg (2,4mg per kg of body weight) of pure dxm (mixed in water) to achieve 1st platau but felt nothing. no euphoria or stimulation or visuals, just a bit slowed down i am not interested in tripping but was after "being drunk on stimulants" feeling which is said to be 1st platau...

try taking 15 robogels instead of 9 next time.

 

[treezy z]

first time you should dose something tiny like 60-100mg to make sure you're not enzyme deficient, then head over to dextroverse.org, click on what is dxm and use the dxm calculator to find out what your second plateau dose is, then take that.

 

[Shaman_RN]

First (only) time consuming this substance:

-Took too many hypnotic benzodiazepines (had no idea I would be consuming DXM later that evening due to this 'hypnotic-induced' craving [some may know what I'm talking about here])
-Consumed the DXM with a friend around 07:00 in the morning.
-Went to sleep ... (this was a mistake, but unavoidable)

The experience was ridiculous -- I can relate to the descriptions several have mentioned about how some drugs feel 'dirty' -- or the next day you feel 'I did not treat my brain well last night.'

Long story, short: Tripped throughout sleep cycles -- waking up in a confused rustle every now and then to rummage down the house hallway, into lavatory, and then back to bed. I felt like there was some 'social gather' occurring downstairs but I couldn't (for the life of me, in the mindset I was in) get to that gathering no matter how hard I tried (obviously there was no 'gathering')

I remember having an 'ego-death' which I confirmed by waking up and asking my other friend (who had not consumed the substance) - "Who am I? Where am I?" - something to that nature. I woke up around 14:30 that afternoon with exophthalmos, which means these kind of eyes O_O.

This was all the result of poor judgement. If you're going to consume DXM - don't do it in this manner.

 

[YaniCZka]

Cheers for info guys. But I really wanted 1st platau, second one has some tripping involved which i am not keen on. 1st one is described as "mda with alcohol" which is really cool...

 

[pharmakos]

First (only) time consuming this substance:

-Took too many hypnotic benzodiazepines (had no idea I would be consuming DXM later that evening due to this 'hypnotic-induced' craving [some may know what I'm talking about here])
-Consumed the DXM with a friend around 07:00 in the morning.
-Went to sleep ... (this was a mistake, but unavoidable)

The experience was ridiculous -- I can relate to the descriptions several have mentioned about how some drugs feel 'dirty' -- or the next day you feel 'I did not treat my brain well last night.'

Long story, short: Tripped throughout sleep cycles -- waking up in a confused rustle every now and then to rummage down the house hallway, into lavatory, and then back to bed. I felt like there was some 'social gather' occurring downstairs but I couldn't (for the life of me, in the mindset I was in) get to that gathering no matter how hard I tried (obviously there was no 'gathering')

I remember having an 'ego-death' which I confirmed by waking up and asking my other friend (who had not consumed the substance) - "Who am I? Where am I?" - something to that nature. I woke up around 14:30 that afternoon with exophthalmos, which means these kind of eyes O_O.

This was all the result of poor judgement. If you're going to consume DXM - don't do it in this manner.

i've had very similar things happen. temazepam was the trickster for me.