A few years ago, I had been taking a medicinal dose of DXM for a cold. When I smoked pot on it, I suddenly began tripping as if the weed potentiated the DXM or vise versa. This lead to psychosis and ego death. I notified my mom because I was scared for my own sanity. After a few hours I seemed to sober up and fall asleep. Ever since this event, I would have a similar episode when I would smoke. It felt as though I wasn't real and that my body was on autopilot. I think this may have caused depersonalization disorder and even depression. Recently, I took 300 mg of DXM to trip. After a few days, I smoked and had the same experience. Don't ask why, It was a bad decision I know. I feel that I've gotten some form of nerve damage to my NMDA receptors. I still don't feel the same and it's sometimes difficult to understand what people are saying. Now volume-wise, but some word they say are perceived as a mumble. I am very concerned about my mental health and am about to start taking nootropics to maximize brain function. Money does not permit me to see any form of doctor/psychiatrist. I know that sometimes thinking you're crazy can actually make you crazy. But I honestly think that I've done some form of irreversible damage to myself. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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DXM Psychosis, very concerned.
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I've definitely noticed that hash seems to potentiate DXM experiences, but I've taken more in the range of 500+mg with a few bowls. I know what you mean about not understanding what people say, though you hear it. I can't say for sure if that's anything to do with DXM in my experiences. DXM and cannabis both seem to cause me to slur my speech within the days after use.
anarchogen
Bluelighter
you best notify your mother again.
Material541
Bluelighter
Lay off the weed. I have had a similar experience and weed always makes it worse. I put down the pipe for you, and you should consider doing the same IMO.
Just realize that you WILL get better. Being extremely concerned that you are going crazy is a symptom of an anxiety disorder, NOT of actually going crazy. Eat well, exercise, and try to keep your mind occupied on other things.
Get well soon!
Just realize that you WILL get better. Being extremely concerned that you are going crazy is a symptom of an anxiety disorder, NOT of actually going crazy. Eat well, exercise, and try to keep your mind occupied on other things.
Get well soon!
I kept trying to find similar experiences to my own and this is the best that i could find.
http://www.imminst.org/forum/topic/40675-healing-the-mind-from-dxm-induced-psychosis/
should i pick up some nootropics?
http://www.imminst.org/forum/topic/40675-healing-the-mind-from-dxm-induced-psychosis/
should i pick up some nootropics?
psood0nym
Bluelighter
It's almost certainly not the few times you've used DXM with cannabis that is the cause of your problems. Hundreds of thousands of people have used DXM with cannabis, and most find they complement each other. It would be extremely strange if you alone are susceptible to this drug combination such that it does great damage to your brain but not others. I for one have used it over 100 times to no discernible detriment. If you have a mental illness it is more likely that DXM and cannabis creates an experience for you that is similar in subjective effect to the effects of the illness alone. That is, your drug use merely coincided with and highlighted symptoms you would have had anyways. I recommend you take the advice given earlier and adopt healthy behaviors and stay grounded. Keep yourself busy with "normal" activities. Hopefully it is just a temporary episode that you will find your way out of. You likely are a poor candidate for psychedelic drugs, and for you they should best be avoided.
General Patton
Bluelighter
Well if he's part of the population that metabolizes DXM more efficiently than others, than it could cause a heightened reaction. But it does seem like there's some underlying depersonalization or other psychological condition the DXM is highlighting. Probably just staying off the pot for a bit is good enough, and if symptoms persist than maybe some nootropics.
BTW I'm the poster Ketaminous who posts later on in that DXM psychosis thread you posted. I feel fine now even though I've abused K and PCP, there's many here that have done the same and we're all still kicking around
Treat yourself and your body well and your problems will dissipate in time, there's nothing that can't be conquered with some positive attitude and perseverance.
BTW I'm the poster Ketaminous who posts later on in that DXM psychosis thread you posted. I feel fine now even though I've abused K and PCP, there's many here that have done the same and we're all still kicking around
Treat yourself and your body well and your problems will dissipate in time, there's nothing that can't be conquered with some positive attitude and perseverance.Well if he's part of the population that metabolizes DXM more efficiently than others, than it could cause a heightened reaction. But it does seem like there's some underlying depersonalization or other psychological condition the DXM is highlighting. Probably just staying off the pot for a bit is good enough, and if symptoms persist than maybe some nootropics.
BTW I'm the poster Ketaminous who posts later on in that DXM psychosis thread you posted. I feel fine now even though I've abused K and PCP, there's many here that have done the same and we're all still kicking around
much appreciated sir :D
psood0nym
Bluelighter
He says in his first post: "After a few hours I seemed to sober up and fall asleep. Ever since this event, I would have a similar episode when I would smoke. It felt as though I wasn't real and that my body was on autopilot."
This suggests he is a normal metabolizer of DXM.
even after the trip, i still feel like i'm on a small amount of dxm. my pupils dilate every now and then and i get that sensation when i stretch or yawn.
psood0nym
Bluelighter
^That sounds like depersonalization independent of drug states. If you lacked the enzyme you would've been plateaued for far more than a few hours, i.e. you wouldn't have noticed a decline at all during that time. Cannabis and DXM both have qualities of their experience that are similar to depersonalization. When you use them they're probably cuing you to focus on it. It seems like you're really stuck on paying attention to that feeling, such that every little alteration of sensation, like yawning, reminds you of it. The dilation of pupils is likely either a phenomena separate from DXM use or the power of suggestion affecting your perception of the size of your pupils. You certainly wouldn't expect fluctuations in size if the DXM were still active, rather you'd expect constant dilation.
General Patton
Bluelighter
Good bio-chemical sleuth work psood, I'm not familar with DXM's methods of action and duration so your input is appreciated. Dissociatives are the most internal class of drugs, I can attest to the fact that they can highlight crazy thought loops where you find yourself "watching yourself, watching yourself, watching yourself" But the good thing is that they're usually defeatable by identifying the state and it's triggers, and letting go of the offending thoughts.
Obviously stay away from drugs like that in the future, basically anything dissociative or psychedelic. I would also be careful with nootropics, it's not like a miracle cure for what has happened to you and toggling levels of certain biochemicals in your body may be bad for you rather than good. A nootropics regiment needs to be fine-tuned and I don't think you should be taking such a risk.
Perhaps a racetam like piracetam could benefit you but be careful with a whole lot of different stuff together (which ones were you thinking of?)
And I'm not an expert - though somewhat knowledgeable on the subject - indeed it sounds like derealization and/or depersonalization, how this falls into a disorder or not is for a professional to make a diagnosis of.
About the 'thinking you are insane can make you insane', well try not to worry yourself into a panicked state of confusion that dissociates yourself even more from the normal things around you - reality happening. But do worry enough to be responsible and not letting it go further than it has.
My advice besides seeking better help than ours here is to keep yourself away from uncontrollable confusing situations but don't lock yourself up in your room either! Instead go do some simple things like taking a walk with one person or have a relaxed discussion, try to focus on what you're doing and do your best to connect again if you feel like you have lost that connection.
Losing the connections even more can make you involute inside your own mind too much and simply living in your own head and own reality too much.
It's only psychosis if the connection is severely severed between what is in your mind and what is happening around you.
Perhaps a racetam like piracetam could benefit you but be careful with a whole lot of different stuff together (which ones were you thinking of?)
And I'm not an expert - though somewhat knowledgeable on the subject - indeed it sounds like derealization and/or depersonalization, how this falls into a disorder or not is for a professional to make a diagnosis of.
About the 'thinking you are insane can make you insane', well try not to worry yourself into a panicked state of confusion that dissociates yourself even more from the normal things around you - reality happening. But do worry enough to be responsible and not letting it go further than it has.
My advice besides seeking better help than ours here is to keep yourself away from uncontrollable confusing situations but don't lock yourself up in your room either! Instead go do some simple things like taking a walk with one person or have a relaxed discussion, try to focus on what you're doing and do your best to connect again if you feel like you have lost that connection.
Losing the connections even more can make you involute inside your own mind too much and simply living in your own head and own reality too much.
It's only psychosis if the connection is severely severed between what is in your mind and what is happening around you.
thank you very much. as far as nootropics go, i was thinking of sam-e and some kind of racetam.
melange
Bluelighter
cannabis synergises EXTREMELY well with dxm, probably better than anything else you would combine it with
Hey man, how's it going..I'm the one that started the dxm psychosis thread over at imminst that you linked in your previous post (my username on there is Spectre), I'm still dealing with mental issues..but I have noted that Piracetam has helped a lot and I feel a lot more normal than before since I've been taking it (it's been about 5-6 months since I started taking it). It's definitely helped to a degree but I'm not 100% where I would like to be..nootropics are definitely a good idea in my opinion though and I would absolutely recommend them in your case.
SAM-e helped a good bit as well, I plan on taking it again sometime soon. I have heard that taking phosphatidyl-serine is very effective at combating the negative problems associated with dissociative drug use. I plan on incorporating that into my supplement regimen as soon as possible. Keep tabs on my thread over at imminst, I will be updating it soon after I run the new supplements, and hit me up with any advice on this..I know how terrible it is to deal with a psychosis like this, it's the worst shit in the world in my opinion..the feeling of losing your mind is absolutely terrible..and I would like to help anyone else that is going through this, so feel free to ask me any questions and I will do my best to help you. Take care and good luck.
so glad you found this thread, ha. i'll check up on yours every now and then. i noticed that taking a xanax or any other benzo before going to sleep certainly clears my mind the next day.
pharmakos
Bluelighter
this kind of stuff happened to me when i first started using DXM. after awhile i found the new marijuana high to be very enjoyable, it just took me awhile to get used to how intense it was.