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DXM Potentiation of psychedelics

TheSanityAssassin said:
i used to do dxm a fair bit, i had some great times on it. i haven't done it in years, till the other night. maybe i just don't like it anymore, maybe i'll try it again sometime, sans lsd. and yes, i'm 100% sure it was lsd, i've eaten many, many hits from the same sheet before, and has a blast.


It seems that using DXM as a preload for other chems is highly subjective to the persons previous experiences with the drug and their overall feeling for the DXM. Like I said earlier in the thread, I seem to be one of the exceptions to the rule.;)
 
Anyone have more positive experiances with dxm and ??? to add to this thread??
I got alot of negative feedback, but very little good.
Lets change that!!
 
I hear only about a third of people who try it like it enough to do it again. Of those people, many stop liking it after x number of doses. I still enjoy it on rare occasion. I can vouch for the salvia combo; the dxm really trims the salvia monsters' claws. Like you, I also tried 5-meo-dmt with dxm. I was hoping for an extreme dissociated state. I got it. It was my first time experiencing ego death rather than mere ego dissolution. It was like vacuuming oblivion inside out. It was bizarre and very unique, but a one time deal.

I assume the reason it makes some psychedelics more comfortable body-wise is just because it's a dissociative, which 'isolates' the mind from the body. I imagine this is why it potentiates the mental aspect of psychedelics as well, though the same is/might be experienced more safely in a sensory deprivation chamber (e.g. John Lilly). That stated, those psychedelics that that have a strong cerebral component and don't rely on the 'sensual' for their effects as much as some others (in your own experience), are probably the best candidates for a dissociative combo, dxm or otherwise.
 
psood0nym said:
I hear only about a third of people who try it like it enough to do it again. Of those people, many stop liking it after x number of doses. I still enjoy it on rare occasion. I can vouch for the salvia combo; the dxm really trims the salvia monsters' claws. Like you, I also tried 5-meo-dmt with dxm. I was hoping for an extreme dissociated state. I got it. It was my first time experiencing ego death rather than mere ego dissolution. It was like vacuuming oblivion inside out. It was bizarre and very unique, but a one time deal.

I assume the reason it makes some psychedelics more comfortable body-wise is just because it's a dissociative, which 'isolates' the mind from the body. I imagine this is why it potentiates the mental aspect of psychedelics as well, though the same is/might be experienced more safely in a sensory deprivation chamber (e.g. John Lilly). That stated, those psychedelics that that have a strong cerebral component and don't rely on the 'sensual' for their effects as much as some others (in your own experience), are probably the best candidates for a dissociative combo, dxm or otherwise.




Very well said psood0nym. I am not after just a body buzz when I do the dxm combos. 4-ho-dipt is a perfect example, but there were hints of toxicity with that combo.
 
I like DXM very much on its own and I am quite experienced with LSD
I plan on trying the combo this weekend.
I plan on taking like 400mg DXM and two hits
I'll post my results!
 
untaMe said:
I like DXM very much on its own and I am quite experienced with LSD
I plan on trying the combo this weekend.
I plan on taking like 400mg DXM and two hits
I'll post my results!


I would suggest only taking 1 hit to begin with, the intensity is much more marked with the DXM in the equation;)
Be ready to be entirely overwhelmed if you do go through with it.
 
your probably right but i dont want to be dissapointed and usually what is okay for other people is never intense enough for me. ill prolly play it safe tho.
how much stronger roughly, would you say the intensity is opposed to just two hits?
 
I was considering combining a lowish DXM dose with mescaline-containing peruvian torch cactus powder. Both induce nausea so I would have to probably take the DXM first (I know when the nausea goes away better).

I do not think it would be physiologically unsafe beyond the normal scope of either drug, and both are intensely introspective (for me at least). I think it might one hell of an introspective trip to the very depths of my psyche.

Would anyone outright advise against this?
 
Infusion said:
I was considering combining a lowish DXM dose with mescaline-containing peruvian torch cactus powder. Both induce nausea so I would have to probably take the DXM first (I know when the nausea goes away better).

I do not think it would be physiologically unsafe beyond the normal scope of either drug, and both are intensely introspective (for me at least). I think it might one hell of an introspective trip to the very depths of my psyche.

Would anyone outright advise against this?


I think it would be a very introspective trip, though I have yet to combine cacti and dxm. I have had good luck with dxm and 2c-c, 2c-e in combination with it though. Keep in mind, however, that I have dosed the mescaline through san pedro, and I dont think I would be able to drink the sludge with the dxm in my system.
 
untaMe said:
your probably right but i dont want to be dissapointed and usually what is okay for other people is never intense enough for me. ill prolly play it safe tho.
how much stronger roughly, would you say the intensity is opposed to just two hits?


Visually, with lsd there is about a 3x intensification. Mentally, I will not be able to gauge, as I respond mentally to dxm in a much different way than most. I would not notice a huge change in the overall headspace from the lsd, just that I am much more comfortable in it with the dxm in my system. Physically, It truely varies from person to person. It is hard to convey the overall change in the lsd space when the dxm is combined with it. I would still highly recommend that you still take 1 hit with the dxm (and only if you are comfortable with the trip so far) and see how you feel about the space, before fully commiting yourself with 2. You can always take more some other time. Dont underestimate the intensity that can be created by the combo.
 
Here's a short experience report from the DXM FAQ at Erowid for LSD in combination with DXM. I honestly cannot wait to try this combo! Of course, I love DXM by itself, so again (like someone said earlier) if you don't care for DXM you probably won't like this combo.

Anyways that day I had been up about 18 hours when I took the lsd. After doing some fingerpainting and noticing how the visuals were pretty good for only 1 hit and just having recently tripped I decided to give the dxm another whirl. So I took 300mg.

At first I felt slightly out of it a bit drunk. As I sat in the chair however I began to feel like I was sinking deep within myself. It became very hard to focus on anything so I closed my eyes. Whew-wee what a mistake. The visuals were *intense* blinding lights, zooming, it was unlike anything I had ever seen. I opened my eyes and when they couldnt focus I began to feel horribly sick. So I went and threw up it lasted about 30 seconds and after I threw up (instantly) I began to feel incredibly fucked up. I was very depersonalized. I felt like I was nothing more than a dot inside my head. Focus on anything was next to impossible and my eyes began to shift a lot. The vertigo was immense if I looked at any repeating pattern. Enigma was playing on the stereo and it sounded so full and deep it was hard to listen to. I layed down and closed my eyes and began another rushing trip. This one was much more intenst than the first so intense that my brain began to feel very overloaded. I suddeny had to throw up again becase of the *music*; it was just too much to handle.

At this point I felt incredibly horrible. My head felt like it was pulsating, as did my whole body. It was as though I was showering the room with excess energy. The music was turned off and I gained some composure. This time after thorwing up (just water) I felt wonderful. I relaxed and layed down again and then it began. The most wonderous experience of my life. There just are no words to describe the nenxt 4 or 5 hours. I would close my eyes and the visuals were so lifelike. It was like a waking dream where I had full control. Soemtimes it was hard to tell if my eyes were close or open. When they were open I was having mass hallucinations. Walls with paintings that werent there etc... It was just incredible...to sum up the pros and cons.

Dont do lsd+dxm if your not VERY stable. The possibility of a bad trip is easily much higher than the possibilty of a good one. Dont do dxm+lsd if you've ever had a bad trip due to repressed memories. Dont do dxm+lsd if your afraid of seeing wierd shit when you puke (if you puke on dxm) this I see as being extremely tramatic for a number of people. Dont do dxm+lsd if your worried about it. You will at time prolly feel like you are dying/or dead (the upside is you feel so content you dont really care).

Do dxm+lsd if you can take it and want the trip of your life. Quite simply I have never seen anything else that even came close to comparing. Will I do it again? I doubt it. I achieved what I was looking for in the whole trip thing; complete and total fooling of my mind.
 
I dont get the violent nausea, but the rest of the description as far as the headspace without the nausea and panic (I know, not a little difference) goes, the report has the overall headspace right, though I dont get most of the side effects.
I find the combo with psilocybin to be much more friendly overall, there is much less of a body component to it.
 
Infusion said:
I was considering combining a lowish DXM dose with mescaline-containing peruvian torch cactus powder. Both induce nausea so I would have to probably take the DXM first (I know when the nausea goes away better).

I do not think it would be physiologically unsafe beyond the normal scope of either drug, and both are intensely introspective (for me at least). I think it might one hell of an introspective trip to the very depths of my psyche.

Would anyone outright advise against this?


Any updates on this combination, Infusion, I am very interested in hearing how it went. Pm me if you only have some basic details;)
 
My experiences mixing dxm with p. cubensis have been very positive and synergistic as well as ridiculously intense. Probably the most intense experiences I have ever had excluding those involving salvia divinorum.
 
psychedelicious said:
My experiences mixing dxm with p. cubensis have been very positive and synergistic as well as ridiculously intense. Probably the most intense experiences I have ever had excluding those involving salvia divinorum.


Care to elaborate on these experiences with a little more detail?
 
Sure. I dosed the dxm in gelcap form [400-550mg] and then ate mushrooms [1.5-3g] about an hour later. Noticed the mushrooms in five or ten minutes. The trip was wildly psychedelic and the headspace was incredible. I've never done ketamine, but I imagine that this is what a k-hole is like. Complete dissociation and entry into one's own mind. The ability to choose a reality out of an infinity and live it for as long as you choose. I would put on some good music with lots of complex patterns and strong themes, like excepter or the olivia tremor control and they would help guide the trip. I saw god, died, all that jazz. You know, the usual hippie bullshit :D But these trips were very humbling. That I could create in my mind such existences as complex as this world was a sign that I needed to appreciate my own reality, my relationships, abilities, etc more than I was at the time.
 
[QUOTE/] Complete dissociation and entry into one's own mind. The ability to choose a reality out of an infinity and live it for as long as you choose. [/QUOTE]


This is exactly why I love to use dxm as a launching pad for most psychedelics. It gives me a much more maleable experiance than I get without it. I feel that more people could greatly benefit from this experience as it allows the lowering of all ego defenses, while leaving the ego intact. Have you ever combined any other psychedelics with dxm??
 
I've smoked salvia many times while on dxm. The salvia always completely blows the dxm away for the few minutes it is in effect, then the dxm is back with perhaps a different tone as a result of the salvia experience.


I did a low dose mescaline/dxm trip once which never got dissociative in nature but was still very fun and bouncy from the dxm. I prefer to take mescaline sans dxm or anything else, however. It's my fav.
 
I am still waiting for an opportunity to try 500mg dxm followed with a brew made from 18inches of san pedro about 2 hours after taking the dxm, to get into a good plateau before the mescaline.
 
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