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DXM lover

I have not tried OTC solutions. I should look into that.

I'm not irritable any longer, and it turns out it was quite short lived, probably the result of coffee intake after a DXM crash and little sleep. The cravings have also passed, which I think is a great sign indeed.

I wanted to talk for a bit about what happened when I was on the DXM. I've had all this anger and shame stored up inside for some things that happened when I was a teenager and a young adult. I have been hiding from everyone because of those feelings. I had no idea that any of it was there; I thought it was just depression.

When I was on DXM--and I had been playing with it for some six months or longer--all of that came into my head again, and it was a shock to see it, frankly. I'm so much mentally healthier now that I quit the alcohol, but there was still more to uncover and deal with.

I was angry with my parents for ignoring me and leaving me to care for myself most of the time when I was a child. They were professors and just ignored some pretty serious stuff. I never bathed, never brushed my hair, had thick mats in my hair. My basic needs were pretty much neglected.

When I was a young teenager, I was messing around with one of my cousins, and my mother packed us up and drove us home in the middle of the night--four hours--and never talked to me about what happened. I know that we never went back again, and our relationships with my aunt's and mother's family were strained forever. I felt humiliated and badly punished, but it was all silent.

When I came out to my parents in young adulthood, they cut me off completely. I was doing activist work on campus and writing about my experiences, and my parents told me they wanted me to change my name.

So here's what I did:

I used basic CBT methods on myself throughout the process.

I forgave my mother. She is the daughter of a schizophrenic mother who committed suicide, and she doesn't know how to parent. My father is blind and doesn't know when I needed help. They were both trying to get tenure at the university.

They did many things right. They made sure we had great schools and plenty of books and verbal communication with them. They took us on vacations every summer. We had nice houses, a pool, lots of different after school and summer programs. We always had food and clothing.

I forgave myself for misbehaving. I apologized to everyone involved with the upset in my mother's family, and they all accepted graciously, but they all said "it wasn't your fault." I wrote my concerns on an anonymous blog and shared it with my mother who said, "This was a spat between your aunt and me. I was never mad at you."

I wrote on the same blog about my coming out experience but realized that both mom and dad had completely changed their tune. We are actually much closer than ever, and they have been warm and accepting of my partner. They were simply a product of their time, and just like everyone with any heart has done, they learned and grew. What more could I have hoped for?

I'm also seeing a counselor and being honest for the first time. I've had a lot of guilt for job losses before and during my alcohol addiction, but there have been other factors that I'm exploring with her. I'm hoping I can learn to cope with job losses better rather than wallowing in the guilt and shame.

I'd never have gotten to any of this had I not been on DXM, or at least not like this. As things came up, I talked them through, wrote about them, and made contact with those I needed to talk with, and I talked with them. My mother is now talking about her own mental health issues and her own doubts and fears WITH ME, something I never expected to have, her trust and interest.

I'm not hiding, not feeling shame, not manipulating, not using drugs to mask my pain.

You can read my blog here if you're interested, although there is nothing about DXM on it yet: http://lippablog.wordpress.com/. There are only about eight entries but there's more to come. I need to tie up the coming out story, but I also have a date rape I want to process, etc.
 
Thanks for sharing all that about you...you've done a lot of inner work to deal with the past and to move forward. I also use certain substances in a way that allows me to access emotions and thoughts that I've otherwise blocked out, so that I can properly process them rather than continue to avoid them.

"The Dark Side" is also a good place to discuss difficult life experiences, there are many caring people there.
 
Thanks, and good to know I'm not alone in the significant benefit department. I wanted to share this special feature.
 
:)

I am deffinatly a Dxm lover, When i trip on dxm this is what i take.

USE:I use the Mucinex DM medication when i robotrip.
Dosage:Anywhere from 9-30 1200mg tabs depending on my mood.
Level: When i take 9 it is usually a platoue 2 or 3 but when i take higher ammounts it usually ranges from platoue 3-7.

The Hardest trip experience i had was this.
Me both of my brothers and my friend connor had taken around 27 1200mg tabs and was the most horrific and intense,joyful trip i have ever experienced.
We took them around 9:30 pm and staryted feeling it around 10:30pm
still to this day i dont have to much of an idea of what exactly happened that night but all i know is that it felt like i met jesus. It inspired me and my life to pull through any hard times and was just a great source of insight on what i had become ever since my brother recently past away from cancer. The most intense part of the trip was when i went outside and was just standing there trying to figure out how to light a lighter for my ciggarette, i was just standing there looking at the lighter in my hand just dumbfounded by the technology that was put into the lighter... I know it sound rediculous but it was intense and i started to shed a few tears, and when my buddy connor lit it for me i took that first drag and it really kicked my ass and boosted my high. i was on plateou 7 no doubt. And when i went to sleep it just felt like i was on the edge of dieing but on the other hand it felt so good(ya know?) so i went to sleep around 5 AM and woke up around 8AM and i was still tripping i got up and i just felt like a million dollors so energized and excited for no reason. Then i had to go to a probation meeting and it eneded my excitement.

Thank you, Any questions, just pm me or ask away on this thread. i have tripped from 50-80 times on mucinex. So i know alot about dxm. :)
 
I am deffinatly a Dxm lover, When i trip on dxm this is what i take.

USE:I use the Mucinex DM medication when i robotrip.
Dosage:Anywhere from 9-30 1200mg tabs depending on my mood.
Level: When i take 9 it is usually a platoue 2 or 3 but when i take higher ammounts it usually ranges from platoue 3-7.

The Hardest trip experience i had was this.
Me both of my brothers and my friend connor had taken around 27 1200mg tabs and was the most horrific and intense,joyful trip i have ever experienced.
We took them around 9:30 pm and staryted feeling it around 10:30pm
still to this day i dont have to much of an idea of what exactly happened that night but all i know is that it felt like i met jesus. It inspired me and my life to pull through any hard times and was just a great source of insight on what i had become ever since my brother recently past away from cancer. The most intense part of the trip was when i went outside and was just standing there trying to figure out how to light a lighter for my ciggarette, i was just standing there looking at the lighter in my hand just dumbfounded by the technology that was put into the lighter... I know it sound rediculous but it was intense and i started to shed a few tears, and when my buddy connor lit it for me i took that first drag and it really kicked my ass and boosted my high. i was on plateou 7 no doubt. And when i went to sleep it just felt like i was on the edge of dieing but on the other hand it felt so good(ya know?) so i went to sleep around 5 AM and woke up around 8AM and i was still tripping i got up and i just felt like a million dollors so energized and excited for no reason. Then i had to go to a probation meeting and it eneded my excitement.

Thank you, Any questions, just pm me or ask away on this thread. i have tripped from 50-80 times on mucinex. So i know alot about dxm. :)

Seriously quit posting that you took "1200mg" tabs, you don't know shit. Do some research.
 
^Gotta admit i agree with tromps, your post is full of errors.

First of all stop calling them 1200mg tabs. We're talking about dxm are we not? Well theres not 1200mg of dxm in each tab so why would you say 'i took 27 1200mg tabs. 1200mg of what? You obviously didnt dose 32 grams of dxm did you.

Also its spelt plateau einstein, and there is no such thing as a fucking 7th plateau, it goes to the 4th, then the 'sigma' plateau which is totally different, this is attained by dosing i forget which amount every 3 hours for 12 hours...

Anyways if you're going to say shit, make sure it's right, and don't cry at someone who tells you to atleast go do some research. He's right you're wrong, so you should shut the fuck up not him.

So don't go around here claiming you know alot about DXM, when you clearly know fuck all, then have a cry when you get pulled up on it..
 
Mucinex DM is hard on the body

I am deffinatly a Dxm lover, When i trip on dxm this is what i take.

USE:I use the Mucinex DM medication when i robotrip.
Dosage:Anywhere from 9-30 1200mg tabs depending on my mood.
Level: When i take 9 it is usually a platoue 2 or 3 but when i take higher ammounts it usually ranges from platoue 3-7.

The Hardest trip experience i had was this.
Me both of my brothers and my friend connor had taken around 27 1200mg tabs and was the most horrific and intense,joyful trip i have ever experienced.
We took them around 9:30 pm and staryted feeling it around 10:30pm
still to this day i dont have to much of an idea of what exactly happened that night but all i know is that it felt like i met jesus. It inspired me and my life to pull through any hard times and was just a great source of insight on what i had become ever since my brother recently past away from cancer. The most intense part of the trip was when i went outside and was just standing there trying to figure out how to light a lighter for my ciggarette, i was just standing there looking at the lighter in my hand just dumbfounded by the technology that was put into the lighter... I know it sound rediculous but it was intense and i started to shed a few tears, and when my buddy connor lit it for me i took that first drag and it really kicked my ass and boosted my high. i was on plateou 7 no doubt. And when i went to sleep it just felt like i was on the edge of dieing but on the other hand it felt so good(ya know?) so i went to sleep around 5 AM and woke up around 8AM and i was still tripping i got up and i just felt like a million dollors so energized and excited for no reason. Then i had to go to a probation meeting and it eneded my excitement.

Thank you, Any questions, just pm me or ask away on this thread. i have tripped from 50-80 times on mucinex. So i know alot about dxm. :)

Regarding this post:

Maximum Strength MUCINEX DM: One 1200 mg guaifenesin/
60 mg dextromethorphan HBr tablet

I used Mucinex DM and its generic siblings for a little while, but this stuff is BAD FOR YOU. You are taking guifenesin with it, and dehydrating yourself horribly. My gums receded about a quarter mile when I was using it. LEAVE THIS STUFF ALONE!
 
Seriously quit posting that you took "1200mg" tabs, you don't know shit. Do some research.

Y'all shouldn't be so quick to judge. There is a max strength Mucinex DM that contains 1200 mg of guifenesin.
 
Dxm seemed profound when i was 15 years old.

7 years later, not so much...To say the least.
Thanks for your absolutely unhelpful and passive aggressively condescending post. 8)

Eye, I am impressed that you are able to recall the revelations that you have after the experience. I always suffer retrograde amnesia, in that I remember very little of the experience once I am out of it. But it seems like the things that you realize while tripping are always there--you revisit them each time, toying with the same concepts. I think I forget these things because it's simply too much to know or fathom when go from the depths of our unconscious, returning to the conscious and all of its defense mechanisms. DXM is a very useful tool for me too, but I just wish I could take more from it...
 
^Perceive my post how you want.

But i can't help but think you guys who think DXM is profound, don't have much experience with psychedelic compounds as opposed to dissociatives which are totally different, and quite truely do seriously lack the profoundness of real psychedelics, do you guys realise psychedelics are the complete opposite to what you're taking?

Psychedelics cause associative thought, not dissociative. Think about it.

Maybe you guys should experience LSD, Psilocybin, n,n DMT, Mescaline, 2c-xx. Then come and tell me how profound your dxm trips are compared to this.

And before anyone wants to claim otherwise i'm very experienced with DXM lol, so yes i am basing my posts on direct personal experience.

Anyways the OP is quite evidently abusing dxm for recreational as opposed to spiritual growth. I'm sorry but spiritual growth with drugs dosn't mean taking dxm in damaging amounts multiple times per week. OP will, if not already, regret this drug abuse. Would be better off to return to drink probably, if you cannot handle your own sober mind.
 
But i can't help but think you guys who think DXM is profound, don't have much experience with psychedelic compounds as opposed to dissociatives which are totally different, and quite truely do seriously lack the profoundness of real psychedelics, do you guys realise psychedelics are the complete opposite to what you're taking?

I happen to think dissociatives are much more profound & meaningful than traditional psychedelics and I have plenty of experience with both - DXM may be one of the less profound dissociatives but there are less profound psychedelics too, like 2C-I and 5-MeO-DALT. What's your opinion of ketamine etc?

And how are they opposites anyway? I'd say something like cocaine would be the opposite of a psychedelic in terms of the thought patterns they produce - to me dissociatives seem more like extensions of what psychedelics do, in that certain facets of the psychedelic experience that can be quite a struggle, like ego-loss, are effortless, even taken for granted on a dissociative...
 
^ They opposite in the sense psychedelics cause associative thought(i'm not gunna explain this to you learn it yourself if you dont get it), dissociatives do the opposite to this. And cause dissociative thinking.

Thats how i beleive they are opposites in that sense. You think dxm is more profound than ketamine? IMO i find dxm more profound. But still no where near psychedelics. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion, but i will tell you right now i think it's stupid.
 
^ They opposite in the sense psychedelics cause associative thought(i'm not gunna explain this to you learn it yourself if you dont get it), dissociatives do the opposite to this. And cause dissociative thinking

I'd be interested if you could explain actually, as I couldn't really find a solid definition of 'associative' or 'dissociative' thought anywhere. And why is associative thought more profound or important?

And no offense but describing dissociatives as causing 'dissociated thought' doesn't sound any more illuminating than saying stimulants cause 'stimulated thought'....

I'm just curious as to your opinions.
 
^No offence taken at all bro :)

Because of how we think, we are constantly connecting up different thoughts with ideas, memories and what not. Through associating one thought, idea, memory whatever with another. You get what i mean.

Also, when you think of ones mind and brain, it is constantly working to block out useless irrelevent information from being absorbed through the senses, or being acutely aware of these. When one take a psychedelic, associative thought is increased, the very mechanism of human thought is enhanced, you see what i mean? I know my articulation isnt the greatest. The very nature of our thinking, the mechanism, you could say, is to connect/associative shit. Emotions, ideas, sensations, memories ect. Psychedelic mindstate enhances this. Dissociatives suppress it.

When i take dissociative drugs, it causes the opposite effect, and thus leaves me in an utterly confused state of nothingness, rather than a rush thought branching off to a another rush of thoughts and ideas and so on, nothing is associated with anything in my mind, and all seems alien and new, i guess is the word, don't get me wrong, i find this feeling enjoyable, but i dont find it mentally beneficial at all.

When i take psychedelic drugs, my intelligence is not altered, yet my awareness is increased, not decreased like dissociatives, i'm able to notice things i would not have noticed without making my mind more aware. Dissociatives do not increase awareness, they do not enhance the very mechanism of human thought which is associating one 'thing' with another 'thing' in the mind. I'm sure you understand what i mean.

Anyways, thats why i said that. But i just want to make it clear that i dont hate dissociatives at all, i just see them as hedonistic intoxicants basically, like alcohol. Not really capable of assisting spiritual growth or enhancing onces creativity ect. Seriously, why dont you try and play some music on ketamine, dxm, pcp and tell me how inspired you get?

Maybe some people find dissociatives great for this type of thing but i honestly cant see what you guys are seeing in these drugs. When it comes to that.
 
Ahhh OK I understand completely, I think the usual term is latent inhibition, but I don't agree with you though (other than music being shit), and actually if i had to describe dissociatives with one word it would be association - may sound like a contradiction in terms but I mean mental association with past events, memories, people all while completely dissociated from reality

Dissociatives do not increase awareness, they do not enhance the very mechanism of human thought which is associating one 'thing' with another 'thing' in the mind.

imo they actually do so more than psychedelics, pushing you so deep into your mind that all the associations you make are of a very personal nature, rather than the universal lessons of psychedelics. Case in point, i took my first ever real dissociative trip, on moderate-dose 4-meo-pcp, right after watching the last ever episode of Lost, which really resonated with me in a way no other show has - on this trip I was able to see exactly how certain characters and events on the show tied in with people and places in my life, specifically how the time I spent bumming around equitorial Africa was my kinda 'Lost' experience. I became conflated with John Locke for a bit, haha. Sounds trivial maybe, but on higher doses i once briefly perceived how every single one of my thoughts, emotions and memories were interconnected in a big bundle, perceived what seem like overarching realities of an ontology drastically different to ours and had one experience that I could only reasonably interpret as the afterlife...

I agree though it's easy to use dissociatives hedonistically and they can be full of 'wtf?', frankly I don't know how much spiritual benefit they provide - I don't think I could point to a single 'lesson' i've learnt, I don't even know if a full interpretation of the dissociative experience is even possible, but they leave me feeling like my soul has been washed with pure spring water for a good while afterwards and I can't shake the feeling they have some deep significance that extends beyond that of psychedelics.

I'm surprised and saddened there are people who find no value in them though :(
 
Some people react differently to it and get a more dirty feel from it and less worthwhile experiences. I belong to that group of undervalueing people.

But there are also those who overvalue it and it can be pretty addictive. A good friend of mine certainly uses it too often and he too speaks of the help he gets from it. A good portion of the negative lasting effects were debunked a while ago I think, but still it makes me feel like doing this stuff too often is unhealthy in several ways and it can definitely bite you in the ass.

The fact that you drank a lot in the past is certainly not a good sign either. I would avoid it (more), just tone it down - you should be able to do that if you are not depending on it. If you have a problem toning it down that is a clear sign that you have a problem with it already.
 
Ahhh OK I understand completely, I think the usual term is latent inhibition, but I don't agree with you though (other than music being shit), and actually if i had to describe dissociatives with one word it would be association - may sound like a contradiction in terms but I mean mental association with past events, memories, people all while completely dissociated from reality



imo they actually do so more than psychedelics, pushing you so deep into your mind that all the associations you make are of a very personal nature, rather than the universal lessons of psychedelics. Case in point, i took my first ever real dissociative trip, on moderate-dose 4-meo-pcp, right after watching the last ever episode of Lost, which really resonated with me in a way no other show has - on this trip I was able to see exactly how certain characters and events on the show tied in with people and places in my life, specifically how the time I spent bumming around equitorial Africa was my kinda 'Lost' experience. I became conflated with John Locke for a bit, haha. Sounds trivial maybe, but on higher doses i once briefly perceived how every single one of my thoughts, emotions and memories were interconnected in a big bundle, perceived what seem like overarching realities of an ontology drastically different to ours and had one experience that I could only reasonably interpret as the afterlife...

I agree though it's easy to use dissociatives hedonistically and they can be full of 'wtf?', frankly I don't know how much spiritual benefit they provide - I don't think I could point to a single 'lesson' i've learnt, I don't even know if a full interpretation of the dissociative experience is even possible, but they leave me feeling like my soul has been washed with pure spring water for a good while afterwards and I can't shake the feeling they have some deep significance that extends beyond that of psychedelics.

I'm surprised and saddened there are people who find no value in them though :(

It's not that i dont see any value at all in them bro, and these were the first drugs apart from cannabis that truely did alter my perception as i tried dissociatives before i tried psychedelic drugs. So there is some very personal things i have realised due to DXM use.

I particularly like how you refered to psychedelics as a universal sort of teaching and dissociatives as being a pure leap into the sub-consciousness, free of any worldly associations in the mind.

I dont know, one thing i do know is that ones mind is their private sancuary. I can never feel what it feels like to be a musical genius, i can never perceive music as they do how could i ever feel what they feel? Words are said, but fail to convey the true experience. Insights, thoughts, memories and ideas for the most part are completely personal and private and for the most part impossible to be truely expressed by words or any other modes of communication alone.

So, i would never argue your opinion that dissociatives are of higher value than psychedelics, i 100% respect that, but politely disagree. But everyone is different, and perhaps just because i dont see the same thing in dissociatives that you do, of course by no means, means that psychedelics truely are more valuable as it's a purely subjective thing.

Sorry i can't really reply with something more thought provoking, or deep. But i truely don't see what else can be said, we both have our opinions and respect the other's. :)

I respect people who can have a friendly debate with someone who disagrees with them, without them getting all emotional and taking it all personal. You would be surprised how many people are like this.
 
I have more experience with dissociatives than psychedelics, but by no means am I inexperienced with psychedelia. They are two different classes of drug that fall under the same umbrella. To fault one for not being capable of doing the same thing as the other seems a bit silly to me. Both types of experience are very valuable for one who is looking for an entheogenic experience. And I am of the camp who finds DXM more profound than ketamine.

Either class of drug can be hedonistic if used with the wrong mindset.
 
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