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DXM freebase - exp - ER Bound

colors

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Last night i extracted aprox 600-700mg DXM freebase from syrup, using the tek from PD. Syrup was walmrt house brand (active dxm + guaf), ammonia was also walmrt non sudsy, solvent was besttest heptane. First time extracting DXM with this method, but have done a/b's before.

I'm pretty experienced with DXM, used about 20 times now. I have ventured up to 900+mg in the last year, using gels and extracted delsym. A few puke fests / blackouts, but nothing beyond the ordinary. Last night I experienced something very different.

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Extraction finished, dropped the crystals in a shot of jager, stirred, downed. Chased it with some orange juice.

t+1
First alerts. Seemed to be coming up quicker than usual. Anxious and queasy.

t+2
Definite DXM disorientation and slowness. Buzz feels typical. Getting itchy, bothersome because I was under the assumption that the allergic reaction was too the Hbr prep only. Oh well on with the trip.

t+2.5
Can barely get out of my chair, having trouble turning my head. Feeling nauseated and short of breath. Dramatic rise in pulse. Arms and legs are starting to go numb.

t+3.5
Arms and legs are severly numbed and throbbing. Pulse is banging at an all time high. Vision is at 20%, and there appears to be a flat black icey windshield type thing in front of my eyes. Hearing is at 10%, just ringing. Can't hear what my gf is saying to me even up close.

t+4
Crawl out the front door and lay face down on the cool cement trying to find relief. Gf hails a cab and we head to the hospital.

She props me up till we get to the admissions desk, then I collapse on the floor and blackout. Wakeup in a chair and they are trying to push me but my numb legs are in the way. Some has to restrain me as apparently I'm spitting and reeling around a bit.

t+4.5
They've got me in a bed with an IV and monitors. Say they've given me valium, gravol, something else I can't remember. Cold cloth on my head etc. Can barely talk and face feels numb, try to explain my case to doctor. They have to keep reviving me. The way my body and face feel, in conjunction with total lack of vision and limited hearing, I'm worried that I've been poisoned and am dying.

They take a blood test and tell me to keep still and sleep.

t+5
Say my blood is showing severe toxic levels. Of what idk I was too fucked. I ask if I'm going to be ok, and they say they will keep me under watch.

t+8
Wake me up to take a second blood test. I'm still tripping hard but my heart rate has stabilized and the numbness is wearing away.

t+10
Results from the blood test are much better they say. They give me fluids, and prop me up.

t+13
They get me up to walk around. Within 30min I am stable enough to go.

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This was my first drug related trip to the ER in 4 years of use. I've had bad trips, and bad reactions before, but this was pretty extreme. They said With the bp i had and the possibility of heptane poisoning, it was a good idea to get admitted.

By the time I left this morning I was so confused, I forgot to check for the results of the blood test. So at this point I'm not sure if it was just a bad reaction to the freebase, or if there was some poisoning from leftover solvent. The original doctor and nurses had left by the time I was conscious, and no one really told me what had happened. My Gf had left earlier for work and left a message.

There were elements of the trip that were familiar to other DXM experiences, but this was much more manic. The black sheet visual was similar to one i had another time, only this time i hallucinated that there was a mask or helmet type thing on my face, kind of like a planetarium attached to face every way i turned. They say I was clawing at my face a lot. Wish I could remember more ... I do remember dangling out of the cab window and the driver pulling my jacket ... the triage clerk bitching about OD's ... and that a nurse later on was asking me if I was a dealer and where I got the information for the extraction (of course I didn't say!). There was also a nurse who was giving off a strong sex vibe, and had a really cute voice with a Jennifer Tilly kind of thing happening (may have been the drugs haha), anyways that made things better. And of course my Gf being there meant a lot, she's good to me and for that I'm thankful.

So anyways today has been a time to reflect on the risk of the kind of stuff I've been dabbling in lately, and questioning where to go from here. Any input appreciated, thx for reading.
 
Glad you are alive! :D

colors said:
t+2 Definite DXM disorientation and slowness. Buzz feels typical. Getting itchy, bothersome because I was under the assumption that the allergic reaction was too the Hbr prep only. Oh well on with the trip.

I've done Dxm tons of times, and sometimes I get this, sometimes I don't. My friend seems to be more susceptible than me. As far as I know it's formication not fornication, but I could be wrong

Thanks for sharing.
 
Good to hear you made it through alright, why did you have such a bad reaction do you know? Was it byproducts of the freebase or what. I'm interested as I may try a freebase extraction in the future as the syrup had bad side effects.
 
thx guys.

someone mentions in the extraction thread that the freebase hits faster and harder. i was worried it wouldn't all get absorbed but maybe i should have taken less for the first experiment, because it seemed to be twice as strong as a dose of hbr.

i'm not sure about the poisoning but for evap i used a double boiler outdoors for 15min + a hair dryer for 10min during crystalization. it was definitely dry and there wasn't much residue in the original evap test.

i just remembered that they x-ray'd my stomach after the first blood test and i'm not sure what the results of that were. i don't remember any GI pain. they didn't really give me any answers as to what was going on ... and as i sobered up i felt like scum for being there for self-induced recklessness so i didn't go out of my way to ask for test results from the busy staff.
 
I remember when I saw your post in PD I was very hesitant to give any advice either way, however on paper Heptane looks to be safer the Naphtha in extractions. This page has a bit about heptane toxicity.
Acute poisoning in man due to hexane leads to excitement,
delirium hallucinations, tremor, acrocyanosis and addiction (Estler,
1939).
In particular the delirium and hallucinations effects would multiply with those of DXM.

It is difficult to draw any conclusions, but my guess would be the heptane, simply because you have taken 900mg before without issue. If there was *any* residue in the evap test you have to assume that however small, it is still highly toxic.


Very happy your ok, be safe! :)
 
Rogan,
That page also states
"Commercial "hexane" may contain up to 50% 2-methylpentane and
3-methylpentane as well as n-hexane and small amounts of various
pentanes, heptane, dimethyl butane, etc. Heptane is not a well defined and specified solvent."

... so why is it alleged to be safer than naptha?
 
Because naphtha is even less well defined, but on the other hand heptane has a higher boiling point - so it would be easier to say that neither are appropriate for use in a freebase extraction.
 
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