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DXM - First Time - WTF?!

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yemil

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I had tried morning glory seeds before this. It was an amazing experience and one of the best times of my life other than the hours of pain and waiting to throw up beforehand (and why I will most likely never do the seeds again). Because of this I am now very interested in pursuing other psychedelics. DXM is very easy to obtain and seemed like another great chemical to try. I wanted to be pretty deep in it and I have taken DXM before in cold medications and whatnot so I thought I was fine and had none of the enzyme deficiency I have read about so i tried 600 mg which is about 10mg/kg.

I had an extremely crazy experience and I am trying to figure out it it's because of the high dose or if maybe I really do have the enzyme deficiency. I took 1 dramamine II for nausea/itching then the 40 pills maybe 20 minutes after and 45 minutes later I started feeling flushed and extremely nauseous there was no way i could prevent the torrent of vomit that was about to come. I felt slightly better after but I still threw up two more times and the last time was really violent. I wasn't feeling top notch but it was definitely bearable. 45 minutes cannot be enough time for all of the drugs to absorb can it? This is another thing that leads me to believe in the deficiency I may have only gotten some of the dose and still been really tripping.

After all the vomiting I was laying on the couch at a friends house with two other sober people there. They started a movie and I was fine then I started feeling something. I closed my eyes and just felt like I was being pulled through some event that I was supposed to stop at but I was too deep for that. It was extremely confusing and I didn't know what was going on. After that I didn't really feel like I was in my body. It was there but I just called it my vessel and I was just an entity controlling the vessel. Pain didn't affect me at all. I pinched myself and told the other two that pain is just a human feeling and that I have no emotions(my entity isn't human apparently, hah). My time perception was FUCKED. I would think hours had passed, asked them if the movie was over yet and they said you just asked that 6 minutes ago. I then decided time didn't apply to me and this made sense. I had my friend start one of my ipod playlists for me so I could see what music was like. It seemed like the lyrics were words spoken to me and I would focus on just that rather than the whole thing as a song and it seemed really slow. I guess that was another affect from my time perception being skewed.

Any time I wasn't talking or actively thinking about something I don't remember. It's like it didn't even happen. My vision was so bad I was seeing double and triple of things I just kept my eyes closed most of the time. When I decided I wanted to try walking it was a really cool event. I know I probably looked like a senior citizen with a walker but it was fun. When I looked at my destination ( the couch about 10 feet away) it seemed miles away but as soon as I stood up and started walking it was like I was instantly there. I felt like I had teleported. I think the peak was over after about 5 hours and I still felt really intoxicated but probably not tripping. I still felt disassociated but my thoughts were not as abstract as before. I then went and layed down with my friend and we talked and layed there but I'm not sure if I fell asleep or just blacked out.

The next day around noon I 'woke up' and still had that very intoxicated feeling. My vision was still much blurrier than usual but not nearly as bad as at the peak. If I had been in a social situation it would have been extremely obvious that I wasn't sober. I went home and slept for a few hours and when I woke up I went to hang out with the same guys again feeling exactly the same. I got home around midnight and layed in bed for hours. At 3 a.m I felt normal. It's like I was thrown back into reality or something.

So I dosed at 9:23 PM(wrote it down) on thursday and I finally felt like I had came down at 3 AM saturday morning. Do you think I was just experiencing a really heavy afterglow from a large dose or could I be enzyme deficient? Please keep in mind that I threw up 45 minutes after taking the DXM. I really hope I am not deficient because I really did enjoy myself despite it being a very intense experience. I don't think I really had much control over myself at all.

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I think that you were just tripping real good and alot of the DXM got absorbed in those first 45 minutes. And as far as for the length of the experience I think you were just feeling the afterglow from the DXM , sometimes I get really powerful afterglows from it that are almost better than the initial trip itself. What I would do the next time you wanna trip is take a 100 mg's and wait like 2 or 3 hours and see how you feel just to rule out any possibility of you being enzyme deficient. And I would suggest you smoke some pot in the first hour so your stomach doesn't hurt and you can hold the DXM down. Happy Tripping =D

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Thanks for the advice. If I take 100 mgs and feel alright then redosing with more will work? Also how do you think weed would affect the trip if any at all? I have only smoked once and that was very recently because I wasn't ever very interested in it, heh.
 
Yeah you can redose with more after you take the 100 mgs I would just do that to be safe. I find marijuana and DXM to be one of the nicest drug combo's out there I'm a huge fan of the experience. It adds a little more to the visuals and takes away the nausea when you smoke pot on the come-up. It's really the only way to do it in my opinion :D
 
I will definitely be trying it then! Something else I just remembed is I couldn't get any CEV'S at all! It was just darkness. I remember really wanting to 'travel places' in my mind because I had read about a lot of people doing that on DXM and being very disappointed because I didn't get to go on a journey with my mind.
 
yemil said:
I will definitely be trying it then! Something else I just remembed is I couldn't get any CEV'S at all! It was just darkness. I remember really wanting to 'travel places' in my mind because I had read about a lot of people doing that on DXM and being very disappointed because I didn't get to go on a journey with my mind.
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some people just don't get that effect. i have done DXM many times and have never experienced the crazy CEVs that many people have reported. with eyes open, i only get the blurrines and, on high doses, really bad double vision. i find you can close one eye to eliminate the double vision. it's not practical for the entire trip, but it's very helpful to read a clock for example.

regardless, i still find DXM to be a worthwhile psychedelic drug. i like the the feelings of intensity and significance it produces. also, the removal of emotional response makes it a great drug for personal introspection. it's nice to be able to think about things that would normally be emotionally difficult, and gain a new perspective.

low doses have pretty cool tactile sensations too. i find dancing, or just stretching even, feel amazing on 1st-2nd plateau trips. weed definitely enhances the buzz. i dont really take DXM without it.
 
Definitely smoke some pot with it next time. At high doses of dex it always kicks starts the hallucinations for me :D
 
Sounds pretty much like my first time at that level.

You should work up to that. 10mg/kg is really confusing and strange without prior experience. I had like 3 trips under my belt when I went that high and got knocked on my ass.

Give it a few runs around 6-8mg/kg. Its much more functional. Truthfully you can still write/read/talk coherently around 6 yet experience great CEVs and floating feelings.

I find it really isnt good to do socially at that dosage either. You're way too dysfunctional.

Second stirfry on the tactility. Its very unique.


And if you were truly deficient you'da been way more jacked up. People who are low on the enzyme get bombed at like 200mg.

And I have had LONG afterglows. One time, I tripped on a friday night and was still a lil loose into monday morning. Happens more early on. Enjoy it.

PM Me if you have any other questions, as me and Dextro are good buds
 
I will try a dose like that next time delsym. Hopefully within a few weeks. I don't have time for it right now and it's not something I just want to do on a whim. Also it wasn't really socializing more of they were there cause I didn't want to be alone.
 
i have been reading about dxm and was wondering for a first timer what is a good starting dose im 52kgs and is it readily available otc
 
I have a love/hate relationship with DXM afterglows. They tend to last for about 24 hours after originally dosing and can be quite pleasant if enjoyed outdoors or somewhere comfortable, but if you have shit to do the next day it is a bitch and a half!
 
elz said:
^how does one determine that they dont have the cyp enzyme deficiency? and is that u drink the whole 200ml bottle??
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start with a low dose (100 - 150 mg) as a trial run. If you find the effects to be really strong for an extended period you may be enzyme deficient.

i drink the 200mL bottle...first couple of times it'll go down ok (ime). you have to get that shit down your throat fast.......and don't be surprised if it comes back up an hour or so later :\

having some good weed onhand is essential too imo.
 
rocknroll714 said:
I think "WTF" is the only way to properly describe a 3rd plateau DXM trip.
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I think "WTF" is the only way to describe any DXM trip.

Tolerance is a bitch, I had some great trips... I've always wanted to do it again, but I've done it so much that I've built a very strong (and yes permanent) tolerance to it, 1,200mg of DXM does almost nothing for me now. Every now and then I will wake up with my brain half asleep and an experience completely identical to a strong 2nd plateau trip will take place for a minute (and that's even after being clean and sober off of all chemicals and substances)... that's about the only DXM type enjoyment I can get now.

Last DXM trip I had, was my first time going to the hospital fucked up. That's when I realized I had to say goodbye to the DXM world that I was so wrapped up in. Be careful and have fun.
 
miasma said:
start with a low dose (100 - 150 mg) as a trial run. If you find the effects to be really strong for an extended period you may be enzyme deficient.

so it is a good thing to be enzyme deficient?? i have read a few things on the enzyme and still cant get whether its a good or bad thing ( please excuse my ignorance)
and i was gonna try 100mls at first, and at my chem there is two diff ones DX &DM now with out looking suss cuz its all behind the counter, whats the best way to determine which is the "one " to buy ?
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^Well depends what chemicals you want to enjoy. If you're deficient, you won't get any joy out of codeine, for example. And most deficient people that I've heard about dislike the long trips/afterglows from DXM. Also, you won't produce any DXO (dextrophan) if you're deficient so your trip will be different. Look up dextrophan, especially the section in William White's DXM FAQ to read what DXO does.

And agree with miasma. If you're 52kgs, maybe start with 100mg and if it lasts longer than 6-8 hrs, I would say you're deficient (not just feeling a bit cloudy in the head the next day, I mean if you're still tripping 12 hrs later then you're probably deficient).

Have fun with DXM, it can be great. But tends to take more out of you than other drugs due to the length of the trip and the way it thrashes your body, I find.
 
^^thanks 4 ur help guys, yeah this is where i dont knwo if i am deficient or not, I have been taking panadine forte for the last 2yrs and a bit( for back pain) and now i dont get get much relief from it even when naughty me does a cwe with a fair amount of tabs, feel ok but not groovy, so my question is am i just tolerant (??Duh) or am i deficient ? bit of both maybe, but i will try that dxm at 100ml c if that experiment proves anything, cant this w/end tho :( got kids so is the DX or DM ?
 
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^A lot of people don't get any euphoria from codeine. If you're not deficient you'll feel warm and relaxed and itchy. Depends how much you take though.

As for which brand, I don't know if that's too close to sourcing... but just do your research and find out which ones have DXM only, those are the brands you want.

I started a thread over in Australian DD about which OTC products are not suitable for recreational use, check it out and make sure you aren't taking any of those brands (keep in mind it's for Australia only, always check the packaging yourself!):

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=430595
 
^^hehehe yeah i read that thread after i bought some rikodene and downed 60mls, wow !had the green apple splatters for the rest of the night.... when i first used codine and took more than i should, yes i did get itchy, warm etc, so i think i just have a wicked tolerance nowdays, ok have gone back over the ADD thread u wrote and i now am armed with information that i need on my trip so when i do finally get to experiment i will report back on my adventure am looking quite forward to it :)
 
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