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DXM - First Time - Coricidin. The Idiot Report. =(

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DXM -- Coricidin. The Idiot Report. =(

Okay. First off .. I didn't do my research. Im an idiot for not doing it, but .. as most of you probably know Coricidin( sp? ) is the worst source for DXM .. I read somewhere that it's other ingredients can finish you off .. permanently. But anyways, I bought a box of Coridicidin my first time trying DXM.. and my last, too. I split the box in half with my friend E, and we drove up to his house .. ingesting the pills on the way up to his house. Actually eating these pills was disgusting, and now i've developed a HORRIBLE ( and I stress horrible ) reaction whenever I take any cough supressants. Let me start from when we arrived at E's house, because everything before that is unimportant.

ARRIVAL-
E and I stepped into his house, heading into his basement room. We were down there relaxing, just listening to music. We decided to roll up a dutch of some decent dro, and just relax for a while. The effects didn't kick in for a long time, but I had a NICE high going .. and the music was great. Now, unlike most people I enjoy hip hop music.. we had some 7L and Esoteric playing, which is underground Boston hip hop. After a few songs, I started to feel a little uneasiness in my stomach, but I ignored it for the time.

45 minutes - 1 Hour-
Im not sure exactly on the time, it was a while back. But I remember I started to feel pretty good. Euphoria and such, and I was REALLY enjoying the music at this point. E said he felt a similar way.. and we were both singing along with the lyrics, and we decided we'd smoke a bowl. So we smoked a bowl.. and I felt great. I couldn't believe I could spend such a low amount of money and get this feeling. So we relaxed for a while, turning the music off. E put on the television, and we watched some music videos for some reason.

1:30 in-
Started feeling incredibly F'd up.. as I described it to E. E was laying on the couch, I sat in the recliner .. all the way reclined. The feeling that came over me was incredible.. almost too much for me to handle. Nothing TOO serious, I kept in control.. but it was strong. I felt like I was drunk as hell, and I'd been smoking all night. That's the closest I can come to describing the feeling. I began to sweat profusely, though Im thinking it was more the heat in the house than the actual drug. I sat there.. staring at the TV without even paying attention to it. Both E and I both sat there.. neither of us said a word to eachother. We just silently watched television, for the next two hours.

2:45 in -
This is when it all went wrong. I felt like I was slipping in and out of conciousness. I can remember staring up at the ceiling, trying to move and speak .. but I lacked the energy to do so. Besides the thoughts of how fucked up I was at this point.. there was nothing. Occasionally I'd speak .. asking E if he was doing alright. Still no thoughts came to me .. I just stared at the same spot, no thoughts .. no emotions. Then I passed out, or blacked out .. not too sure which occured. Neither was E, since he was in the same boat as I was. Both about the same body weight, took an equal amount. This continued for the next hour and a half.. it wasn't fun. I don't recall much of the timespan that passed. I was pretty much .. dead.

4:15 in -
About four and a quarter hours into the trip, I began to realize what I'd just been through. I began to get nervous, wondering if I'd just come that close to over dose. I began to pray for my life for some reason, begging whatever was out there (god, allah) to save me from this experience. This was the only thought going through my mind for a while. I asked E if he was okay, and he said his stomach felt like it was going to explode .. and we both agreed that we just wanted to go to sleep. I knew he wasn't driving anywhere, so I made myself at home on the living room couch, while he stayed in the basement. He came upstairs to puke a few times, which he later explained to me as " Trying to get rid of the DXM ".. but to no avail. He didn't sleep at all that night. Me on the other hand, my body was completely exhausted.. and I fell asleep without much trouble at all.

The Next Day-
Whoo boy. I woke up about seven hours later, and stood right up. Mistake on my part, as I was extremely lightheaded and I could still feel the effects of the DXM. The effects were shortlived, as a few moments later I felt almost normal. For the rest of the day though, I felt disoriented. I felt out of place no matter where I went .. and I didn't have much to say. I looked back to think about the "trip", as I do with most drugs .. and determined that DXM is far from a drug to be toyed with. I don't know if that qualifies as an overdose, because I've heard of people taking a hell of a lot more. But hey.. it was my first time.

That concludes my SECOND report, hopefully a little better than my first one. I tried to make it detailed, but if you have any questions you'd like answered then just let me know.. and I'll be glad to respond with answers. Thanks for reading.
 
Whew, glad you're alive man. Coricidin is no joke and I think that company needs to re-think their products. Sure it's the users fault for taking their substances in a recreational manner, but there have just been 'too' many kids getting messed up from it for me to back them up anymore.

Good report though!
 
yea, very very serious, but u dont need to be told what you did was silly, all i can say is fucking thank god ur alive, and please PLEASE!!!!!!! you and all others who read this
PLEASE RESEARCH YOUR DRUGS!!!!!!!!!

i dont think this can ever be stressed enough!, u must be 110% sure of what ur taking, what its gonna do to you etc......
but yes, lesson learnt, read up!!

peace.
 
Yup. I can't stress it enough. RESEARCH WHAT YOU DO BEFORE YOU DO IT! Im glad to be alive, and Im glad E is alive too. I don't mess around with that stuff anymore, because .. it's bad.

RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH. I forgot to include that in the report.
 
yea dont mess with that brand, but do take dxm again, its a wonderful drug and can do so much for a person who knows what they are doing and what they want out of it :)
infact im gonna be dosing about 400mg dxm this weekend :)

peace
 
fuckin' post dxm next day grog - it's a killer. i ended up knocking myself out with alcohol and bulbs hoping for a smidgin of sleep.

at least now you know what to look for. sometimes you have to make the mistake to learn from it.

:)
 
Are you fucking kidding me? You make it sound like its a miracle for him to be alive.
If you even read his post you can tell he just fucking freaked out, it was to much for him. The amount to kill you considering the antihistamine in it would be about 15 pills. No one has ever died while taking under 10 cccs. I'm not sticking up for this dxm bullshit. I do realize its bad for you, and i dont even take it myself. There have been reports of kids taking 98ccc's and survivng, and if you want fucking sources ill give them.
You people are like anti-drug propaganda. You make little things seem huge.
 
well considering the amount of Coricidin in that it is lucky, i dont think you realize how bad Coricidin in dxm is, its fucking serious shit, so how about u straighten your shit first before making a statement like that.

peace
 
If its so serious show me some sources. Show me articles on people dying from taking low amounts of dxm with antihistamines. If you can give me some decent sources then ill shut my mouth. Someone try to persuade me.
 
FareWellToFashion said:
If its so serious show me some sources. Show me articles on people dying from taking low amounts of dxm with antihistamines. If you can give me some decent sources then ill shut my mouth. Someone try to persuade me.


http://www.dextroverse.org

I have a read a few articles about people dying from what seemed to be a relatively safe dose.........have fun looking.
 
Max recommended dose for chloropheniramine maleate is 12mg. source http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_clor-trimeton.html

Many people have an allergic reaction to this antihistamine, and bad things happen in large amounts.Many people have an allergic reaction to this antihistamine, and bad things happen in large amounts.


In a large does (25mg+) chloropheniramine maleate will kill you. All of the deaths from lower does were because of untreated allergic reaction to chloropheniramine maleate. Hence, if you are not allergic to chloropheniramine maleate and take it in reasonable doses you should be fine.
Thanks for the source bud.
 
Way back in the day me and all of my friends used to eat boxes of ccc's, luckily we never had any problems. Im sure he freaked out due to the combination with pot. I had a horrible trip after i drank a 4oz bottle (only active ingred. dxm) and smoked some ganja, it's a really intense combo.
 
FareWellToFashion said:
All of the deaths from lower does were because of untreated allergic reaction to chloropheniramine maleate. Hence, if you are not allergic to chloropheniramine maleate and take it in reasonable doses you should be fine

Just in case anybody was wondering, let's lay a few facts down about Coricidin Cough and Cold tablets. Erowid doesn't have to be your bible, but they do note this :

SPECIAL WARNING - Coricidin Cough and Cold
There are many over-the-counter products which contain DXM. Most contain additional active ingredients which are best avoided at high doses. The higher the dose, the more likely problems are. One product which has caused problems for many people is Coricidin Cough and Cold which contains DXM and Chlorpheniramine Maleate. If you are using DXM recreationally, avoid using Coricidin Cough and Cold as your DXM source. We have collected a few reports specifically about people's experiences with Coricidin.

The ingredients in Coricidin tablets are :

- Chlorpheniramine Maleate (4mg)
- DXM HBr (30mg)

And the side effects to be aware of are :

- Trouble breathing
- Extreme weakness
- Skin rash, hives, or itching
- Drowsiness or dizziness
- Dry mouth, nose, or throat
- Sunburn (use a sunscreen)
- Trouble urinating
- Confusion
- Thickened mucus

The side effects from Chlorpheniramine Maleate alone are :

- Constipation
- Decreased sweating
- Difficult or painful urination
- Dizziness or lightheadedness

Since naturally we are not talking recommended doctor doses here, it is fair to assume that anyone taking Coricidin will encounter at least one of these effects at some point, and I don't think it takes a genius to recognise they're not comfortable effects. So even if a dose doesn't turn out to be fatal, it's still going to be bloody uncomfortable.

There is a veritable bounty of trip reports over in Erowid about DXM and Chlorpheniramine Maleate being combined. Please note the exceptionally large use of re-occuring words like
"IN HELL" , "STUPID MOVE" , "BAD TRIP" , "NIGHTMARE", "WORSE", "FEAR", "BAD", and so on.

I can't agree with anyone thinking it is okay to take Coricidin, or any of the medicines with dxm and Chlorpheniramine Maleate. The straight line is don't take dxm products when they contain other ingredients aside dextromethorphan.. It's a simple rule, and it's good HM. (which is what we're all about)

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Are you fucking kidding me? You make it sound like its a miracle for him to be alive.
If you even read his post you can tell he just fucking freaked out, it was to much for him. The amount to kill you considering the antihistamine in it would be about 15 pills. No one has ever died while taking under 10 cccs. I'm not sticking up for this dxm bullshit. I do realize its bad for you, and i dont even take it myself. There have been reports of kids taking 98ccc's and survivng, and if you want fucking sources ill give them.
You people are like anti-drug propaganda. You make little things seem huge.

Your attitude is entirely unecessary. This is a Harm Minimisation place, and you can keep your negative attitude to yourself. :)
 
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FareWellToFashion said:
Are you fucking kidding me? You make it sound like its a miracle for him to be alive.
If you even read his post you can tell he just fucking freaked out, it was to much for him. The amount to kill you considering the antihistamine in it would be about 15 pills. No one has ever died while taking under 10 cccs. I'm not sticking up for this dxm bullshit. I do realize its bad for you, and i dont even take it myself. There have been reports of kids taking 98ccc's and survivng, and if you want fucking sources ill give them.
You people are like anti-drug propaganda. You make little things seem huge.

I personally would like a source of the 98ccc's and surviving.

Thanks in Advance =D
 
so if one person survives it must be ok right?

because the deaths of T7 involve 35mg insufflated and some people survive, some don't.

totse is not a very credible source anyway not to mention the spelling on the 96 ccc's is horrible. Why even fight harm reduction?
 
And of course the spelling was horrible..
The kids a DXM junkie..

He took 2,880mg of dxm..
hes probably retarded as hell

let alone the 384mg of Chlorpheniramine Maleate.

I'm not even arguing from here.

I'm sorry.
 
I think the reccomendation on Erowid.org to only take a cough mixture only containing DXM Hbr is the way to go...

Unfortunatly when I first tried DXM here in Australia I had a little trouble actually getting a bottle of the stuff since they keep it behind the counter. I had to go and ask the Pharmasist for it. First time the pharmasist asked me are you coughing up liquid or is it a dry cough... I went with the later then when I got the bottle I realsed no DMX on the ingredients list. Damn that was a dud purchase... (don't worry I didn't chug that bottle). Next Pharmacy... Pharmasist askes me the same thing I say dry cough this time... get DXM containing bottle. Unfortunatly is was not straight DXM but mixed with anti-histamine. It wasn't the potentially deadly Chlorpheniramine Maleate luckily so I read up on the net and descided to chug it.

Nothing in Erowid about it but else where I found that the added anti-histamine diphenhydramine hydrochloride had a max dosage of 300mg for children under 12years. I took 500mg + 400 Mg of DXM Hbr (the whole bottle). I thought the experience was lousy. Didn't get anything really out of it and had some bad arse "phaseing" in and out where I was trying to read and thoughts and vision would go completey fucked (like a very mild black out) then back to normal then a moment later fucked again. Later while living overseas I did DXM again a few times. In that country DXM cough mixture is available on the shelf so I grabbed stuff with only DXM. All those experiences were much better and far more enjoyable and every time psychedellic or trip like. I realised that the antihistamine just ruined the experience. Even at 600mg dose of straigh DXM I had none of that bad arse "phasing" in and out.

These days if I want to do DXM HBr I would consider buying the straight chemical and putting it into empty capsules (empty caps you can buy at the pharmacy). Buying the straight chemical form of DXM Hbr is much cheaper than buying disgusting cough mixtures and you can buy the shit by the grams straight from the net. I've read that it's legal in US and Canada, you may need to check for other countries.
 
All About Chlorpheniramine Maleate





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Chlorphineramine and Overdosing
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The level of overdose with Chlorphineramine seems to be around 150 mgs. Chlorphinearamine is in the class of antihistamines called the phenindamines. The phenindamines seem to be the safest of the antihistamines.



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Problems with Chlorphineramine Maleate
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I was prescribed this drug as a child from ages 6 until 16, when puberity finally alleviated my allergies.

It was a prescription drug for many years--and for good reason.The first year I was taking it I kept falling asleep. I was on 25 milegrams at a time, and that was in a time realease capsule--of course being 6 I probably only weighed --? I don't know ,maybe 50 lbs. I then went to 12 milegrams in a time released capsule and that was what I needed to alleviate my allergies but there were side effects still Mainly an edgy feeling that just cannot be ignorred and a pressure in your head that sometimes was present and other times not. When it became an over the counter drug it was packaged in 4 mg tablets--so thats what I took Not being time released anymore--the medicine hit you all at once and 4mg was enough to cause the edgy feeling but not the pressure headache.In highscool I started dosing on lsd and the easily available but yucky mescaline tablets. My alergy medicine was a buzzkill. More importantly than that though--If people are going to get a buzz off cough medicine(something I have never done or heard of anybody doing)if taken in large quanities , chlorphineramine maleate is painful to your brain--a headache will ensue that wont go away until its out of your system and then you will still feel terrible because of what it did chemicaly to your brain. Its not a regular headache or one that I could describe to you in terms of comparing it to other headaches it is unique to this medication and others like it. When it was going through trials at the FDA the drug companies used all there muscle and infuence to get it made over the counter. It really shouldn't be!!

I spent this time writing this letter in such detail because after browsing through your site you didn't seem to put enough emphasis on this subject. It should be there right below acetamenaphine not as toxic but the prolonged effects of abusing or using it are a decreased mental accuity and focus and in general a shitty mood that you may not understand a lower quality of life not a better one!!

-anonymous



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The Coricising Effect
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The interesting thing about Coricidin is, unlike Robitussin or any other method of use I've found, Coricidin seems to induce a highly negative response to constant users. This usually begins as a mild nausea at smelling the pills, progressing to nausea at the sight of them, thinking of them, etc.. Eventually, it seems to progress to vomiting *every time* you take them, and so on up until the person can actually vomit at seeing the BOX of pills in a store. This has happened to over 20 people I know personally, including myself. One friend who took roughly 900mg a day for a summer, vomits if you even mention coricidin to him. Personally, I have to physically stop myself from vomiting upon looking at the box. Thus, I do not take coricidin anymore.

-Kelani


My take on the whole Coricidin issue is that Sorbee, the red candy coating that coats Coricidin pills, along with the nausea that DXM causes, triggers a psychological reaction to DXM that makes one nauseous. So when people even see DXM, it triggers the taste of Sorbee, which triggers the nauseous feeling on gets on DXM.

-Greendrag


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