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DXM - extremely experienced - 1st time 4th plateau 1200+mg

Pothedd

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ok so 2 nights ago i decided to embark on my "final hazzah"
that is, my first time taking a massive 4th plateau dose and my (not quite) last time taking dxm period before i am put on prozac.
so i had been on a pleasant 2nd plateau dose all day, then decided to start the hardcore trip. took all 1200+mg (not sure how much exactly), and promptly blacked out.
i remember nothing of the next few hours. apparently my friend came over, says i was unresponsive.
my mother found me in that state, pupils dilated, unresponsive (literally lights were on, nobody was home) and carried me to the car, drove me to the hospital.
i come to hours later in darkness, beeping noises coming at random intervals, these weird mittens on my hands, my arms and legs strapped to the bed, tubes comin out my arms and one out the tip of my dick.
i rose many times throughout the night, talked to the asian people. i thought it was all a hallucination. figured i'd wake up in the morning and be safely in my bed, it seemed like a dream. i thought wow, this is a crazy trip. many things ran through my head that night, among the most prominent was the song "Sedatives" by the Insane Clown Posse, and the bluelight thread about a heroin clinic where people could shoot up in safety. i thought how nice it was to have a place i could trip balls in peace, all the while having nice asian nurses taking care of me, even if they were just a hallucination.
eventually i was awake all the way. this was no dream. i was in the hospital. talking was still really hard. answering questions. i was telling them that this was my "final hazzah" and i was trying to reach the 4th plateau. stuttering my words a lot trying to make them coherent.
i wasn't quite sure where i was. at first i'd thought i was back in oakland, that they'd taken me to the mental hospital again. then i was wondering where i was if i wasn't there. from the asians everywhere i thought my mom had taken me to some crazy asian hospital. some 3rd rate homeopathic place where the laws of the city did not apply, so i wouldn't have to be put in the mental hospital again and the police wouldn't bother me.
eventually once i was coherent enough to ask for them to be removed they took my straps off. apparently i had broken their straps at one point. hilarious in my book. dextromethorphan gives me superhuman strength.
the lights came on at like 5 or 6 in the morning. i was still trippin balls but at the 3rd plateau, then the 2nd. by lunchtime i was at the first plateau, bored, just wanted to get the hell out of there. still wanted the nurse to take the tube out of my wang.
here i am now, home, have been since yesterday when i got out about 1:00pm. i feel like i haven't slept in 2 days because i didn't sleep 2 nights ago, just tripped balls, and last night it was as if i layed in bed all night. i guess i did sleep because i dreamt somewhat, i still feel as if i had no rest. i need some benadryl or something because i'm an insomniac.
i really need to get high. i still have a bottle of zicam i'm gonna drink sometime but i wanna smoke some pot. i got none, i scraped all my resin before i blacked out.
so much for my final hazzah. i left my body alright but where did i go? i have no memories of those hours, only blackness. my plan was to have an out of body experience and go see my girlfriend, who i miss so very much. i can't see her for years to come and it tears me apart. her dad hates me and so does everyone she hangs out with.
oh, hey, i just found out hazzah is spelled huzzah. interesting.

so now the aftermath of the trip is not from the drug but from the hospital. i have a bruise on my wrist with no idea how it got there. sore holes in my arms where the stuck needles. it hurts when i pee because of the catheter. yesterday a couple times when i pissed my dick made a weird bubbling noise, like air escaping. my arms are sore as hell, my right one i think from an incompetent nurse jabbing me in the muscle with a needle. my mom says she was having a hell of a time finding a vein (but another nurse was like "hey, what about this big one over here? my veins are easy to see, idk wtf the dumb bitch was doin). but i also imagine i'm sore from tugging on the restraints. i broke one, i slipped out of another once i was cognitive enough to figure out how it worked.
it was crazy. my plan for an OBE was foiled, but i'm left with a damn good story to tell.
the other day on DXM i'd remembered some shit that had happened in my past. i thought wow. if i become a rockstar the biography's gonna be a great book, and in turn a great movie.
that's all i got for ya. it's a long story i know but definitely the craziest trip i only half remember.

edit: the moral of the story is, if you're taking a massive dose of a drug that makes you LEAVE YOUR BODY at least write a note for your mom telling her you aren't dying so she doesn't freak out.
 
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I don't think you need to be told (or do you) that this was really dangerous. What's your normal DXM dose? You were already on a 2nd plateau dose and took 1200mg more?

It would be nice if you could fill in some more details as you remember them, if you do.
 
Ah... puts me in mind of some of my 4th plateau experiences. Once I regressed to childhood and felt like I was reliving -- literally -- years of my life. DXM has given me the most intense trips of any psychedelic, and I've done quite a few. People who disrespect it, or think it's "safe", because you can buy it at Rite-Aid are being very foolish IMO.
 
yea, i didn't think about that part. being already trippin i would've needed far less than 1200. chances are i came quite close to the 5th plateau. i should've waited until the next day but i'd already waited one day, i wanted to do my final huzzah.
i took dex for about 3 years straight (i mean straight, hardly any time spent sober) so i have a massive tolerance. normally i take about 450mg to get a nice pleasant 1st plateau/close to 2nd plateau trip.
 
Glad your ok, I find 4th plateau really isn't worth it - very hard to remember anything, high probability of passing out and what you can remember is too chaotic to make any sense of.

I'll aways take a high 3rd or sigma over a 4th, 4th always feels like a waste the next day.
 
Pothedd said:
god i want some k, that'd be awesome. i'd get good and stoned first. i really want to have a conscious OBE but it's too damn hard to do. a drug that'll push me along would be perfect.

When you made the statement above (in response to a TR I posted), I recall feeling concerned at your enthusiasm to experience an OBE - you have to understand Pothedd, OBEs under the influence aren't generally going to be straightforward, malleable occurences. They can be a millsecond, a few seconds or maybe minutes but with few exceptions, they occur in such altered states of existence/consciousness/ego loss that they make up miniscule fractions of any trip itself.

That said, I didn't exactly put you off when I remarked:

SpellmanT7 said:
...a prior OBE consisted of a fixed camera above my bed and I watched my body morph backwards through several thousands of years of evolution - the decor of the room was transformed and I saw objects that do not yet exist, morph into less 'futuristic' forms until ultimately the room was restored to a 21st century state Now that was 'awesome'.


However, in the same TR thread, I also stated:

SpellmanT7 said:
I cant remember, chronologically, when the following occured so will list the embodiments:

<some original text cut>
iii. Total and utter lunacy - the vision of hospital staff lingering above me and trying to calm me down

<more original text cut>

(which, in my instance, was just a vision but a very unpleasant one indeed)

So...


I will add this - I'm glad you're ok now:)

but a 4th plateau dose whilst still at the 2nd plateau...c'mon Pothedd.

NSFW:
Don't even get me started on critisicing your SET and SETTING considerations:X
 
I'm glad to hear you'll be on Prozac soon, it sounds like you are using far too much DXM and this is the only reason you will stop.

Stick to the mary jane for a while, perhaps?
 
yaw
i know
i didn't think about the fact i was at the 2nd when i took the rest
i think i can add up how much i took, let's see
150+120=270
burned music onto cd
took a shower
felt like i was coming down, took (50robo gels = 750) + (zicam = 391.2) = 941.2
damn, that's only 1210.2mg altogether and not even at once
damn son...
lame...
i blacked out for most of it, which is really lame
and i spent the whole time in a hospital which is really really lame
with a tube comin out my dick which is really really really lame

i find it extremely hilarious though that a broke their restraints a few times whilst blacked out. i'm a little like 135lb. dude and i broke their fuckin straps. fuckin savage.

edit: wait, i added wrong again. maybe i took something like 150 + 240 = 390mg at first then yea, the rest later so 1331.2mg
 
It really doesnt matter! Just learn your lesson, integrate the experience and take a good break. Maybe read some books on psychedelics, I find that just learning about the effects and others experiences is just as rewarding as doing them myself!

Come back to the scene armed with more knowlege of what exactly you are doing, with limits and I guarantee you will have more rewarding expereince this way! You have your whole life to see what the world of psychedelics have to offer take yer time!
 
oh i did. i done. i got one last 2nd plateau dose for me and a friend for a later time but other than that it's just weed until i get on prozac. it was crazy. not to be repeated. can't even remember the 4th plateau which means it's pointless to go there.
there are plenty of other psychedelics and plenty of time to do them. i think i've done enough dex (once i finish off what i have left). 3 years is a long time ain't it? plus i'm tired of stealing cough medicine.
that was my final huzzah.
Huzzah!
 
^^ Yeah, that's good to hear... 3 years is a long time. And DXM is, in my opinion and most others' as well, a much more dangerous thing to be using repeatedly than most other psychedelics.
 
My hunch is that it's harder on the brain physically than your average serotonergic psychedelic. Not that I can cite any proof.
 
I was asking opinion :) I have never tried DXM, and am at a loss as to its effects. Trip reports never tend to explain what it is that makes it a hallucinogen.... or the essence of it. Is it because of amnesia?
 
It's because it creates a dissociation from normal perception and thinking... it can actually be very mind-manifesting or shatteromg at higher doses. A lot of reports don't explain it well because most reports on DXM are by kids who are either unequipped to understand or explain the effects, or who have the attitude "heh lolz i got fukd up it wuz kool but this one part was lame cuz i wanted to be even mor fukd up".
 
Beenhead said:
I was asking opinion :) I have never tried DXM, and am at a loss as to its effects. Trip reports never tend to explain what it is that makes it a hallucinogen.... or the essence of it. Is it because of amnesia?
I think thats a very interesting point, I've always considered DXM a psychedelic however when I really thought about some of my most psychedelic moments I realized so many of them were actually a result of amnesia.

If you consider your thought process as a markov chain you can see where DXM differs from more traditional psychedelics. At a given time instant there will be some concept in your mind, while under a traditional psychedelic the analysis of the concept will be distorted relative to a sober state giving rise to a change in perception. However if we assume DXM is not a traditional psychedelic then the analysis of the concept will not be distorted, although with amnesia your past memories that play a critical role in any analysis will not be present so it is like every concept that comes into your mind is a fundamental new idea that can be analyzed without bias. This leads to a radical change in perception and thus the reason why I call DXM a psychedelic.

As for describing the visuals from DXM that is very user dependent. For me open eyed visuals are rather uninteresting, boring stuff like fractals, color changes, room morphing etc. However with eyes closed or in a dark room what I see becomes what I think I am looking at. Once again the amnesia plays a critical role because I forget I am laying down in bed, the actual thought process that takes me from knowing I am lying in bed to thinking I'm in some alien location is convoluted but the fact is once I think I'm there thats what I see (until I open my eyes).

Thats the amazing thing about the human mind, we actually see very little but our mind fills in the gaps - on DXM you don't actually see anything so your mind doesn't just fill in the gaps - it has to draw the entire picture. This is what gives DXM visuals such an alien appearance, the visuals are stunningly realistic when viewed as a whole - but when I try to focus on any one thing it will flicker, distort and generally go from looking normal to completely absurd and then fade away leaving the scene as it looked before minus that object. Its best not to focus on anything, just enjoy the ride.
 
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