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DXM - Experienced - Perspectives on Perspectives

Walkaway

Bluelighter
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As background, my fiancee had left me approximately two weeks prior to this. I was having a sort of rough time.
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11:20 p.m.- consumed 237 milligrams of DXM in Robitussin Honey Cough preparation (acquired at the store earlier in the day for old time's sake). B complex, 500 mg vitamin C, 400 IU vitamin E, 30 mg CoQ10, and 300 milligrams DMAE consumed one hour prior to this. Honey Cough tastes better than I remembered - though obviously still not good.
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11:45 p.m.- smoked one joint with four friends ten minutes ago. Am now beginning to feel mildly dissociated on top of the familiar cannabinoid light-heartedness. Intensification of sensory input, loquaciousness, euphoria, increasingly abstract thought structures - all the beginning signs of a typical low dose dexperience.
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12:00 a.m.- sensory input becoming more dream-like. Detached sense of honesty. Feeling quite close to everyone. Definitely feeling it. Remembering now why I prefer low-dose dex to MDMA.
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1:00 a.m.- consumed 350 milligrams of powder in a gelcap, along with 100 milligrams DMAE.
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1:45 a.m.- feeling a bit nauseous. Waves of energy seem to rhythmically penetrate my being. Tell N. I can never repay him for his friendship - N. tells me he was an asshole. I tell him I was a needy, clingy little bitch. We both laugh. I'm about to be off.
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? a.m.- move to bedroom for isolation and darkness. Waves of energy steadily increasing. With eyes closed, see stone and brick walls whcih I realize represent my emotional armor. I shatter through with white light. Ecstatic. Several memories I know didn't happen to me. Depart from this realm into a dark, enclosed welcoming space. Paradoxically, simultaneous display of beautiful fractal imagery. Encountered my "Guides" who presented the symbol of the ouroboros (upon closer inspection, a sickly version of it) and said, "This is the symbol of your relationship to *." There was definitely nothing perfect about this image - it suggested pathetic, unfulfilled longing. I questioned: "Didn't G.K. Chesterson say that the snake eating its own tail was the ultimate symbol of futility and despair?" Answer: "Yes." I then became the snake, experiencing deeply the frustration that this condition evoked. I could feel myself choking, and yet going ever faster to get more down. I cried out: "I don't want to be a snake eating my own tail!" The response was quite parental: "Then don't."
Suddenly moved back out of the snake form, watching the guides straighten the snake out, and watching it slither happily off into the darkness. Strong sense entire time of homecoming, of being lovingly caressed and protected, even if sternly dealt with. Feel as though I've gotten off track and am being shown how to get back on. Another wave of energy carries me back into my body. Sudden sense of confinement. Frustration. Breathe and lay back. Concentrate on breath for only a moment and voila! I'm off again. This time I seem to be floating above the mouth of a tunnel, with what I can only describe as three mothering presences behind me, just out of view. They seem to be pushing me into the tunnel, whispering, "It's time to come home, it's time to come home, it's time to come home..."
I understand that this is death. I refuse. "I'll go when I'm damned well ready!" They cease trying to push me. Experience ends. Back on bed, in body. Frustration again. Breath control of great aid - again. Several more out of body experiences, of a rather mundane sort. My awareness seemed to remain confined to the room albeit with novel viewpoints of said room. Eyes seemed to remain open the entire time. Come back out of room, severe time dilation noted, as well as an abundance of moving patterns in my visual field - fully as visual as any acid experience I've ever had. I can see incredible geometric displays in the grain of the wood on the wall, and I seem to be seeing through layers and layers of sheets of energy just to see the wall and the wood grain. Still feel quite high. Smoke a bowl and converse with two friends. Rant about previous experiences.
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Reflections:
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(1) Need a tape recorder.
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(2) Need to examine my tendency to
make idols out of people.
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(3) Need to pursue my human mission
*and* reacquaint myself with
Alternity. I thought I was moving,
but I wasn't.
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(4) Need to study meditation/magick
further specifically in terms
of astral travel.
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(5) Need a separate magickal journal.
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DXM is my second-favorite psychedelic drug (next to LSD). I find myself more than a bit irritated by those who would tell me that I only hit the dex because I can't get "real drugs." I've smoked DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. I've used ketamine, psiloc(yb)in, MDA, MDMA, 2C-T-7, methamphetamine, cocaine, and many other drugs. I just happen to find that DXM works better (for me) than most anything else (besides LSD).
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There's a story I like to tell that's related to the above venting. Back in 1999, I used to make the experiment of telling ravers about DXM in one of two ways. I would either tell them about DXM, the powerful dissociative anesthetic, with effects more than somewhat similar to ketamine, which produces a 6-8 hour high after oral ingestion OR I would tell them about DXM, the 100% legal trip contained in cough syrup. Ravers told of DXM in the first manner would say something along the lines of "Oooh, oooh, I gotta get me some of that! I love me my K!" Ravers told of DXM in the second manner would say something along the lines of, "You only drink cough syrup because you can't get real drugs like pot and acid." (I always had to laugh at that one, as I was a daily pot smoker and at least weekly user of LSD at the time.)
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
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Good entertainment in this early AM. I would like to make an observation and that is DMAE can produce some weird effects and I would recommend everyone try it by itself before they combine it with any other psychoactive substance.

I get alot more then mildly stimulated from it, I've had an involuntary tremor in my hand, and once from a couple inhales of n2o it put me out for an hour. Maybe its just me....
 
"I find myself more than a bit irritated by those who would tell me that I only hit the dex because I can't get "real drugs."

I'm with you on this one! Although I wouldn't call DXM my favorite drug, it certainly is an old standby, and I've had plenty of mind blowing experiences on it.

I'm surprised you prefer low dose dex to mdma... I've always thought of DXM as a spacey opiate-high until you get to the high 2nd or 3rd plateau.

peace
 
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> DMAE can produce some weird effects
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True. My ex-fiancee (for instance) would display typical 'drunk' behavior after a dose of 300 milligrams.
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> and I would recommend everyone try it by itself before
> they combine it with any other psychoactive substance.
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Of course.
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> I get alot more then mildly stimulated from it. I've had an
> involuntary tremor in my hand
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I get similar reactions with centrophenoxine (trade name Lucidril, which metabolizes partially into DMAE), but DMAE itself treats me just fine. Mainly, I find it to enhance my motivation and the sharpness of my visual field, as well as enhancing memory retention while tripping, and recall when 'down.'
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> and once from a couple inhales of n2o it put me out for an hour.
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Weird.
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> Maybe its just me....
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No, drugs affect everyone differently. I read that on Erowid or some shit. ;)
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
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> I'm surprised you prefer low dose dex to mdma...
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I find low doses of DXM to have interesting visual activity (I get OEVs at around 180 milligrams), and I get significant empathogenic effects at around 230 milligrams. I find this empathogenesis to be more restrained and intellectual than MDMA. I also enjoy the music enhancement. MDMA is very enjoyable, but I find it to be overly hard on the body and quite shallow in terms of its intellectual/emotional/spiritual profundity. I've used it more than two dozen times, have derived what benefit I can from it, and will not be repeating the experiment in the future.
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> I've always thought of DXM as a spacey opiate-high until
> you get to the high 2nd or 3rd plateau.
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Well, I personally find low doses of DXM to be far more enjoyable than opiates.
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
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i thnk dxm is a load of bull i only feel drunk and really hot and pissed around 345+mgs
 
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> i only feel drunk and really hot and pissed around
> 345+mgs
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That's too bad. BTW, how do you feel at 670+ milligrams?
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
From a high dose of DXM I only felt stimulated and drunk too. And pretty hot too. Although I did not smoke pot that night, and I am told pot increases DXM's effects, such as out of body experiences, tremendously.

Good report though, very interesting points!
 
if you guys take enough, you will get completely fucked.
dxm was my favorite for a year or so...had some good times...

I think i did it way to often cause my perspective (sober) just kept getting weirder and weirder...it took monthes and monhtes to get back to normal, and years before I could smoke weed normally without feeling like i was on dxm
 
From a high dose of DXM I only felt stimulated and drunk too. And pretty hot too. Although I did not smoke pot that night, and I am told pot increases DXM's effects, such as out of body experiences, tremendously

oh yeah, had this too. only felt drunk and overly stimulated at 600~650, a high dose with my bodyweight. also smoked great amounts of pot with it, but it still was not what i expected it to be. now, that i've tried it what more often, i can tap into a 3rd plateau quite easily with a lot less than 650. dunno what it is, guess i can recognize it's effects better now or something in that direction.

As background, my fiancee had left me approximately two weeks prior to this. I was having a sort of rough time.

i'm sorry about that, feeling better already?? anyways, nice report, keep em coming!!:)
 
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