DXM addictions

[rpage25]

hi,

Has anybody else started to feel really guilty about tripping on DXM? I'm 25, a uni graduate, and I feel that I should know better. But I've been having regular trips to the chemist now for close to 18 months. Its gotten to the point now where I feel I cant go in. its amazing they havent pulled me up on it yet. My first trip on it was so incredible that I istantly knew this was something that I was going to do on a regular basis. And ive lost count how many times Ive done it.

My tolerence level is very high. I usually do 2x 200ml bottles. But that isnt quite cutting it anymore.
I would really like to stop completely, or at least not do it for at least a year or two.
I have had problems with addiction before, weed, alcohol, speed.
Whats worse is that Ive kept it a secret from friends, family and my girlfriend, so ive got no one to actually talk to about my problem. So here I am on the net...

thanks

 

[freedstar]

I have a friend who had problems with DXM. Realize it's something you can't do all the time. Led to some major life problems for him.

Have you tried Mushrooms or LSD? A pure psychedelic experience, in my opinion, blows DXM out of the water. And it's a bit harder to abuse. Guilt mixed with psychedelics can equal a major ego crushing ass kicking. I tend to think DXM can turn into pure hedonism, making the guilt harder to accept. What are you getting out of DXM? Pleasure? Wasted time?

Taking DXM all the time can't be good for your brain either. Ease up on it. Don't abuse any drug. And don't expect more drugs will fix your drug problem.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Has anybody else started to feel really guilty about tripping on DXM?

No. I mean, it's a decent drug, and has a unique mental flavor to it (it's the one dissociative I can use responsibly to boot). You're not the only one to go crazy with it, so don't worry, there are number of folks on here who used it daily at that level for long periods of time.

Anyhow, how often (on average) are you indulging? Give us an idea of what we're working with. Do you have any idea why you feel the need to abuse/self-medicate with drugs, any kind of life problems/emotional issues?

Whats worse is that Ive kept it a secret from friends, family and my girlfriend, so ive got no one to actually talk to about my problem

That's part of life when your activities are socially taboo and legally persecuted, unfortunately. Whether or not it's worth it is something you'll have to answer for yourself.

And you are using products with DXM as the only active ingredient?

 

[rpage25]

The thing is ive tried acid and DMT.. and those experiences were mind blowing, but those items are so difficult to find where I am. Its very rare that I can get my hands on some...
The thing about DXM I think thats so appealing is that I dont have to contact anyone to get it. It can be my little secret. Its a very easy drug to get and use, (once you get past the taste).

The high associated with it especially keeps drawing me back. Even my trips are not half as strong as what they used to be, I still prefer it to using marijuana. DXM makes me euphoric, instead of sad and paranoid.
When I first started using it I lived in the city, where I had lots of different chemists to shop at. For the past year though ive lived in the country, where its a lot harder to get. There are two towns right near me where I get it from, and that was easy at first, but going back to these places gets harder and harder. ive been doing it at least once a week for the past year, but if i lived in the city still i can honestly say id be doing it at least 2 to 3 times a week

I realize I just have to kick it, other wise im going to get pulled up on it.

 

[Toz]

DXM seems to be addictive to some. There was a guy that went to the same school as me (figured it out by reading) that used to post on another drug forum about his experiences with DXM. However as time went by his trips seemed darker and he seemed depressed about doing it all the time. Then one day when I came to school, we got the information he had died. I later read on the forum that he had hung himself.

:/

DXM addiction is possible and seems to mess with your head alot. I'd try cutting down on doing it so much if you feel like it's getting out of hand, after all you're not physically addicted so the decision to just stop/cut down on dosage can be made easier.

I wish you good luck.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

ive been doing it at least once a week for the past year,

Once a week is more than is healthy, but not terrible either. Ideally, since you're having issues, it would be wise to cease all intake, though if you were set on having the dissociative experience, once every other month would be perfectly fine. A good year or two off might help with tolerance.

I still prefer it to using marijuana

While I'm not suggesting you trade one addiction for another, sometimes it's wise to use drugs you prefer less if it enables you to have a more healthy usage pattern. I mean, if you don't enjoy cannabis then don't use it, but I'm talking other drugs in general, since the psychological need for chemical solace will probably still be there until you're able to sort out whatever is causing it.

Maybe get a new hobby, a joint one you can do with your significant other, or any friends of yours, to keep your malaise at bay, or at least be a more healthy outlet for you.

 

[rpage25]

Im going to try and just stop. I dont want to keep doing it every week. My highs have been so weak lately anyway, ultimately its just a waste of money. And sometimes my highs end with a big low as well.
Cheers guys...

 

[Mysterie]

isn't dxm use connected to olney's lesions

and just from an observation standpoint, dxm addicts become wrecks after a short while

i dont think using it even once a month is ok

i support your decision to not use dxm

 

[Solipsis]

William White (of the brilliant DXM FAQ) proposed this years ago but has since retracted it after a possibly even more brilliant DXM expert Clive Anderson - who turned out to be a foaf - refuted this in an article he wrote.
The problem was that early assumptions were made based on rat studies, DXM use has not shown to do this in man just like ketamine does not do this, not in monkeys either which were studied.

However these NMDA antagonists screw up your cognitive faculties (causing difficulties with language and keeping a grip on time and place such as with planning) which admittedly seems reversible but I am not sure if reversal is total and how long that may take. Recovery obviously depends on the kind of abuse, how much in what time frame.

In my opinion though, it is somewhat futile to justify high frequency of dissociative use with claims that it does not cause things like Olney vacuoles since being dependent on a substance is a much more extensive problem. Acute detrimental health effects can deter people - maybe a little - of abuse but absence of proven damage risks could allow more psychological dependence and non-organic based mental disturbances.

If there are no objections this will be merged with the DXM long term effects & addiction subthread a bit later.

 

[Crashing]

isn't dxm use connected to olney's lesions

and just from an observation standpoint, dxm addicts become wrecks after a short while

i dont think using it even once a month is ok

i support your decision to not use dxm

Olney's lesions, smolneys pesions...

I found DXM to be addicting too, it's that powerful introverted secretive mindblowing high that you can get whenever you want that works everytime. DXM is an incredible chemical, easy to get carried away with if one can stomach it. The only reason you feel you should know better is because of the social stigma attached to highschoolers using OTC drugs to 'get high', but honestly you and I both know that there is a much more sophisticated endeavor at hand. If you feel you're getting out of control, take a break man. If you had problems with substances in the past, you know what it takes..