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drunk then meth then weed?...

smokem351

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I have a question for all you lovely people... - I love to get drunk then smoke a point or two of good meth & a few quality cones fairly soon after the meth (when at home usually, otherwise would save the weed part for after clubbing/night out)... - makes me feel amazing but has been accused of wasting uppers with downers... - Am I a nutter or just a seasoned poly-user?... btw, always keeps a few xanax on hand incase sleep needed or mind fuck needs to be nulified.... any thoughts on this combo experience?... Cheers....
 
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Uppers with downers is a myth that stems from "speedballing" which is OPIATES with stimulants. Drinking / weed / meth / xanax are safe in reasonable dosages but if you mix with opiates and go to sleep you may not wake up (stop breathing). Your breathing is generally an involuntary response but opiates block your brains receptors to your oxygen needs.

I once mixed 100 mg dxm 20 mg valium 50 mg dextroamphetamine and 40 mg hydrocodone and I'm pretty sure I almost died because when the hydrocodone kicked in I "nodded" and woke up sometime later covered head to toe in sweat, gasping for air like I stopped breathing.

Anywho had I taken just a wee bit more of any of those substances I probably wouldn't be here. Stimulants increase heart rate which increases need for oxygen to stay alive, which is why speedballing can be dangerous.

Your combo is fine in responsible dosages, just don't add opiates to the mix because they are very very dangerous.
 
Cheers bro, thanks for your input... - my worst habit used to be getting drunk on atleast one full bottle of bourbon spirits ( min 700-1000mls or min 40-60 oz in convertion I think? ) & then chewing up 80mg of oxycontin with weed & xanax afterwards.... did this for about a year everyday & then just felt so worn out I had to cut out the oxyies altogether & cut back the drinks... - best high ever but used to feel my heart slowing down... - lucky I continued to wake up by the sounds of it!.. - funnily enough I now have high blood pressure & am already on blood pressure meds... 150/100 still and resting pulse of nearly 100 BPM... & that's without amphetamines.... - think I did some permanent damage from that year long binge ( & the 20 years of prior usage) ... so yeah no more opiates for me, worst withdrawals I've ever experienced & I wasn't even booting them up!... - wish I could be fully clean & sober but have been to extreme lengths to achieve that ( four rehab visits ) & now I just reside myself to moderation as I just can't fully stop & have probably ruined my natural serotonin production anyways.... oh well it was fun at the time... - just really wanted to see if people agreed that mixing uppers & downers were an amazing feeling or just a waste?... - spose it's great for an ( excuse the terminology ) druggo/junkie like me & the people calling it a waste in my life are just amateurs without comprehension, tolerance or experience of combo's....
 
never speed-balled or took amphetamines with opiates though (that I can remember of) so thanks for sharing your experience, I will definitely keep that mix off my list!.. - glad to hear you came out it okay in the end.... - scary when you have a 'serious' moment & wonder for a sec if you should drive yourself to E.R.
 
Speed/alcohol/weed is lovely, aside from the time I very nearly tipped backwards down the stairs in the club I was at--girl in front of me turned back around and grabbed the front of my shirt.

Only thing I can see to say here is to make sure you do not take the xanex until the alcohol has worn off.
 
hahaha.. I've macked out like that heaps & it's like > 'sorry babe/bro, am in the zone or got the wobbly boots on' - usually starts a good convo too if the chick's into it!... - anyways, oops... usually only have the xanax in the mornings, but have taken them plenty when drunk at night too for sleep incase of needing to get up for work or just being generally pissed-off/uncomfortable mentally which is most nights... Am starting to think they aren't a good mix long-term... spose it says so on the packaging but so do ciggies... my ignorance, my health I guess.... - regret is certainly gonna suck, but that's when I just get them to keep feeding me morphine if I start dying & so the cycle goes on... ( note to self: jeez I'm fucking tweaked to be rambling on like this! ) cheers...
 
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Uppers plus downers = more cns positives, less peripheral effects. Meaning, mentally you will get the advantages of both but physically they will null each other out for the duration that they are active together. So in my experience, the high from mixing an upper with a downer is generally more well rounded and possibly stronger and always more enjoyable time.
 
^ pretty much. Euphoria + alertness is awesome mixed with a benzo to break the tension from speed. Even speedballing is fun but the opiates can overpower the stimulants if you overdo it like I did (I was a bit suicidal at the time though kinda wanted to test my limits to see what happened) and if you nod on the stims your heart rate might slow down but not to the same degree it would without them. When you're awake and not getting enough oxygen you can force yourself to breathe harder. If you're asleep you can't control your breathing, and opiates block the sensation your brain gets when you need air. The faster your heart beats the more air you need.

Basically I was just starting to fuck with opiates at the time, and I wanted to die without making it totally obvious in the autopsy that was my goal. I wanted my parents to think the OD was accidental but I guess once the hydrocodone peak was over I woke up from the stimulants, sweaty and feeling like I almost drowned.. also went and vomited after.

Related to OP - xanax/ valium are administered during stimulant OD's. They actually slow down the heart, and stop seizures if one is occurring from say - a mega dose of meth.

Like the above poster said, not only do you get the sedation from the xanax, you get the awakeness/alertness of the meth. Very nice mix.

Opiates are ok to mix but know your tolerance and for God's sake don't take enough to nod. When you mix the two you get more euphoria but you don't get drowsy until you cross that line where you nod and it gets even more dangerous the more shit you add on to the opiates. In other words I wouldn't add opiates to a mix of benzos and alcohol weed and meth.. maybe if the opiate dose wasreally low. The main danger with opiates is the shallow/labored breathing.
 
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