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Drugs seeming to have "personality"

JasperTheReckless

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Has anyone ever had the feeling that a drug was, not simply a chemical running through their body; rather, creates the feel of being an entity in and of itself; or rather somewhere near? I have, often times while tripping on Diphenhydramine, come to have the feeling that an unpleasant something was accompanying me, I was even able to identify it as possibly male (not sure how, likely my mind sees male figure as more threatening?). I have heard similar accounts of an entity being present while tripping on Datura (though reported as female). Again, I have heard of this with DXM. I'm finding this hard to explain, hopefully someone who has had a similar experience can shed light on this?

**To clairify, this is not visual, auditory etc. Simply a feel in the air, if you will.
 
Sometimes when you introduce different drugs to your body like Diphenhydramine it can change your personality while on it. I find that when I drink my personality changes. I am more flirty with both sexes, I throw caution to the wind and very much more open. I would say and do thing that I would not normally do while not drinking. Chemical that are released in the brain can change the was one feels inside.
 
I'm saying, not my personality; separate from myself. Outside of me, like the feeling you get when someone is in the room with you.
 
I've had that feeling while taking diphenhydramine, it's kind of like some kind of creepy, sexually deviant wizard's cast a spell on you, that makes you mistake cell phone chargers for huge, dying flies.

We have a thread this similar called "What Gender is Each Drug". I'll keep this open and see if it generates a different type of discussion, otherwise I'll merge it with the aforementioned thread.
 
Umm.. I kind of worried about sounding nuts with what I'm about to post, but it looks like I'm in good company anyway, so far as bizarre experiences are concerned!
When I was very hooked on pethidine, and at what I would consider would have been a very toxic level in my blood of the by product 'norpethidine', so that my mind was altogether quite unwell and I was - In retrospect - having some sort of mental breakdown involving psychosis.. I KNOW that I was having some quite freaky experiences involving intuition and clairvoyance. I worked out that whatever happened, was within about twenty minutes of an injection. It got so that people were coming to me to 'read' them, which I could ALWAYS do with uncanny accuracy. While it was strongest after pethidine, it would happen pretty much anytime, during that period of my life. I would get into a taxi and play 'guess about the driver'. I remember one day my daughter was with me, and I told the driver that he had a daughter with snow white blonde hair.. and another on the way. I told him not to worry, but the birth would be surgical, and despite problems everything would go well. He then pulled out a picture of a little girl with snow white hair, and told me his pregnant wife had a high risk pregnancy, and had had to have a cesarean birth previously but hoped this one would be natural. Given that her first was a caesar, she was at much higher chance of a subsequent surgical birth - though I never found out. Another time I told the driver that his wife wanted him to stop grieving and move on with his life. Turned out she'd died the year before of cancer. Most commonly I'd say insignificant but personal things, such as 'you have three children.. two girls and a boy.. in that order. That sort of thing. Has anyone else had this type of experience while intoxicated or unwell?
 
PS.. My theory is that when we mess with our brains, or when our brains are not functioning 'normally', we open pathways that normally aren't open. As we only use 10% of our brain, there is much brain tissue lying dormant, with who knows what potential lurking in there! Just a theory.
 
Yeah, I think so to. But that's what they say. ;-)

PPS.. Not that I'm trying to get my number of posts up and become a big blue lighter, or anything.. I tend to write long sometimes, and I keep getting logged out, so this is a bit bitsy. Sorry for that. ;-)..

So.. En-ee-waaaay.. There was this one time after I'd had pethidine that stands out in my mind as being the most ..I don't know.. uncanny? strange? powerful? ..the most incredible experience of all, with regard to clairvoyance on opiates. Don't know if anybody's interested, but:

My descent into the hellish world of opiate addiction began not long after losing my best friend to suicide, back in 2003. I guess I'd worked out that opiates worked on emotional pain too, and allowed me a respite from the overwhelming, all-consuming grief that engulfed me morning, noon and night, was there even in my dreams on the rare occasions sleep chose not to ellude me. Through oxycontin, and later through pethidine, I not only hurt less, I actually felt somehow connected to my friend.. as though he were there with me in the warmth of the mist that settled over me. I could feel him and it was just so comforting. Unfortunately I stopped caring about anything besides going to this warm place where I could be with David. There are big, fat tears rolling down my cheeks as I tell you I even stopped caring about being a mother to the beautiful, incredible children I'm blessed with. I realise I have completely gone off on a tangent here, and will fetch my point back in a minute, but I want to say while I'm feeling inclined, that if you EVER find yourself contemplating suicide.. first go and visit the forums of wounded individuals, where similarly broken people prop each other up, and keep each other going from one day to the next. My personal favourite was SOLOS. Survivors of Loved One's Suicide. A place to co-exist with others who *got* you. When I say co-exist, I mean that literally. For it seemed to me that nobody there was really 'living'. They were all 'existing', often out of obligation, as to not do to their friends and families what had been done to them. Suicide never takes only one life. Okay.. I'm sorry about the OT rant, but it does provide a background to the next bit..
 
I do not know if those are actual entities existing in a different dimension, or sheer imagination made up from random electric pulses in our brains that our minds string together trying to find sense in it

Once I woke up feeling a malevolent large shadow in the corner of my room but that couldn't have been possible because my whole room was dark as pitch anyway. I was scared shitless, I promise you that.

Have you ever heard Mike Birbiglia's (bur-big-lee-uh) stories about his horrible sleep disorders episodes? I'm sure they were high drama and very frightening at the time. He recounts the dreams from his memory and I find him to be a brilliant storyteller plus a first rate comic. He's remarkably good.

He has not a shadow in his room. He dreams of a hovering, gravity defying, monstrous looking jackal.

You know how when you go to work and the person near you or a friend in the coffee room, someone, anyone, says, "I had the WEIRDEST fucking dream last night!" Everyone just grabs their cups and vanish. No one wants to hear about somebody elses totally fragmented clusterfuck of a dream!!

That's what I thought before I hear Birgiblia. He's made his LIVING off of his DREAMS. That is how good of a story teller and a comic that he is. He makes you interested in his dream world. He somehow makes you care about his situation.

He does not use ANY drugs though. I guess thank Buddha because if M.B. took drugs with his sleep disorder... I don't know what would happen. I can't imagine.

Sorry, O.T. but I really thought it was worth a mention because personalities in your dark room, or hovering jackals in your dark room, both really bad, both invisible to everyone else. No thank you.

I always thought xanax had a personality. This sounds bat shit crazy but if I had a couple xanax in my pocket, I never felt lonely. They were friendlies to me.
 
One evening I went to my computer, lit candles, put music on, and decided for no particular reason that I would write to one of my old friends from SOLOS. It had been quite some time since I'd been active in the group. I'd slowly extracted myself over a period of time. I'd noticed that going there could in itself prevent people from moving forward in their lives. It was great when I'd needed it most, but I'd needed to leave. And as such, I hadn't been in contact with my French friend, Bruno, for quite some months. I'd never met Bruno, but I knew a fair bit about his life.. his wife Sonia, and his lovely son. I knew that because Sonia had two children already, Bruno wasn't keen on having anymore. And Bruno suffered greatly from the depression that had struck him down after his closest friend took his own life. And that's where I'd last left Bruno.

But this one particular night, I began an email, which seemed to write itself. I have no real recollection of writing or, and no idea whatsoever, why I said the things I said to Bruno. Neither did I pause before sending to think 'hang on a minute Rose, you're being weird, you'll upset him' or anything like it.

In my email I told Bruno that his friend wanted him to stop grieving and allow himself to be happy. I said that his friend, P, was unable to move on and be at peace while Bruno was so tormented. That P knew how much he was loved, and could hear Bruno when he called out his name, crying and in enormous pain and anquish. I told him that his friend wanted him to rejoin the living. I told him that the new life of a daughter was imminent - that she would soon be born, if she had not already. I told him that it would not be with Sonia, but that would have this little girl with somebody new. The woman had long, straight dark hair and preferred to wear jeans over anything else. Above all - I told him - his friend was imploring him to let go of the grief now, and to allow himself to be happy.

The next day I received a letter with an attachment - a wedding invitation. It was written in french but easy to make out. And there was a photograph of the woman I'd described, with Bruno - who confirmed that she lived in blue jeans, and they'd argued about her wearing a dress for the engagement photo! The invite contained a sort of post script at the bottom, along with a picture of a stork carrying a baby, and something written in french I couldn't make out. Bruno told me they'd literally just found out that his fiance was pregnant, but didn't of course know the sex of the baby. He told me how happy he was to read what I'd written, and that he had never believed in "ghosts" or the supernatural, but that the things I'd told him had changed that because nobody could possibly have known those things. He said that he perhaps would have been dismissive of what I said about his friend telling him to move on, etc, but for the personal details - such as the woman's straight dark brown hair, and that she was pregnant. I felt really positive about the whole thing, like this guy had been helped. I think - through some of the things he would say from time to time, that he had contemplated taking the same path because of the pain he was in. It was only the pain he felt he would inflict on others, that stopped him. So anyway, six or so months later I received a picture of a red and wrinkled very fresh newborn daughter! :-)

I would definitely say that was the single most profound experience of that nature that I've ever had.

Has anybody else had this sort of experience after taking something? I am very curious about it and would love a rational explanation!

Sorry so long folks.
 
This is what im getting out of this thus far.
You feel that the substance gives you a different perception on life while on the substance.
I know when I take a certain legal thing ... i think about life and how mystical it is.. then I sorta have that feeling you're saying...
I see the body as " 2 parts " so to say rather than a whole and brings something different out.


Other than that I've read reports abut people who engage in legal habits and have read some sense entities around or near them.
I myself has never had that happen and sometimes.. I look back and realize that my person.. some what changes.. difference is perception
 
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If I'm getting at what I think you're getting at,

Opiates make me feel like I have an old, true, friend just relaxing with me. Like a childhood buddy. And we were riding bikes, went back to mom's house for grilled cheese sandwiches, and then played super smash bros all night. Now we're in our sleeping bags just completely and totally devoid of worries, fears, or problems, maybe talking to each other a little as we drift off into oblivion. It gives me that kind of nostalgic feeling.

Amphetamines these days give me a feeling of having a dirty little weaselly cartoon man on my shoulders digging his claws into my spine. I know it's weird. Didn't use to be like that.

Alcohol makes me feel like the real me just came out of my shell, and I/he's looking to fuck shit up, actually try at getting laid, don't take shit from people, the kind of things I wish I had the courage to do. A doppelganger version of me. "Dark Sigmund" lol.

I don't think of these drugs having an ethereal entity with me when I'm doing them, cause that'd be kind of weird. But since you asked...that's what I feel it's like.
 
I think we have many different types of each emotion (ie different kinds of anxiety, sadness etc). Certain substances perhaps mess with our sensitivity to these? I feel as though I notice alot of things I would normally miss (although missing alot I normally notice) after certain drugs. After Diphen binges I have horrible nightmares for a week or two, followed by a night or two of dreams that, although not 100% accurate, depict things that will happen. I don't get it clearly enough to do anything about said things, I just get a say, 7 second head start on what's going on when the chain of events plays out. Disappointingly, it lasts for only a few moments. When I enter the situation, I get an overwhelming sense of holyfuckthishashappenedbefore and voila, my mind is 5 seconds ahead for about a half minute. I lose my ability to funtion in the moment though, as i'm not all focused in the here and now. Hope I explained that clearly >.< it seems like such a tease to taste such power and still have it be just about useless, if not entertaining.
oh and i'm in a kind of foggy spaced out state for a few hours after. Nothing i'd rate as spectacular, but it's happened enough times for me to not just write it off as deja vu.
 
I can relate to the Amphetamine dude lol, he likes me to stay awake, and avoid contact with others.

Pretty far out there, as it's a combo like fuck, but DXM + Dimenhydrinate + Meclizine + MDPV + AM2201 + JWH210 + alcohol causes what my friends and me call the "Black Twists" it feels like there's a demon calling our name in the next room, promising relief (from what, i have no idea). Every turn of the head, or really any movement causes a violent shift in perception, it makes everything feel otherworldly, the room grows hostile, but you are friends with the demon, if you don't try to pull any tricks, he will protect you. My friend tried to fight the high, became scared and said it felt like the room was angry with him and was trying to unravel his brain a neuron at a time. This combo is the most intense feeling of something being present there with me, that i've ever found. If you ignore the feelings you get from it, you begin to get visuals like paintings being three dimensional (i've described it as four dimensional before, as it seems to have another aspect about it, but I don't have the vocabulary to even come close to depicting it).


**I do not recommend anyone try this, it is dangerous beyond all belief.

Sorry if I got a little off track, it's a pretty crazy memory.
 
Quality thread, some nice stories here.

The drug with the biggest personality for me is Heroin, Opium or any other smoked opioid. It just feels like the partner you've always wanted, a dreamer with endless creativity, letting you experience lands men were not meant to see. Once they've tasted the wonders, they'll be unable to turn back.
 
Well put ^. Kind of like the song of the sirens and the fruit of knowledge all rolled up into a ball, thrown in a spoon, and drawn up into a hypodermic syringe.
 
Diphenhydramine, in high doses, does produce a feeling of some sort of presence of another entity. It is just part of the deliriant effects of the drug. To actually feel like a drug is more than just a substance is another thing entirely, and have often felt this.
 
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