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Drugs or love?

Love isn't sustainable. At best, someone inevitably dies leaving the other behind and alone.

A drug habit on the other hand, if you aren't talking about an opioid one that comes with neverending tolerance, can be sustainable and healthy throughout a long life.
 
I believe that drugs can only give you so much satisfaction, When it comes to withdrawl and addiction your life can just be ruined.. Ive seen many either die or throw away there life after only a few uses of opiates and your hooked.. And trying to get off.. Trust me. Doesnt seem easy. Love is great, You can't fall too easy.. Never depend on someone always make sure you have that stable feeling. Heartbreak may hurt... But you can move on eventually.. It beats lliving in withdrawl your whole life , for some people at least.
 
Love isn't sustainable. At best, someone inevitably dies leaving the other behind and alone.

So you're saying that it isn't possible to love someone who is dead? A drug habit dies with its user, but true love is eternal and transcends death. True love is undying, for the living and those passed on.
 
The question the OP asked was "what feels better?" I really don't think that loving your dead spouse or children or whatever will feel better than using some good drugs. Mourning is a dysphoric experience. The eternal, transcendent definition of love you're talking about is not the kind I think the OP was talking about.
 
I wasn't talking about what feels better, I just don't agree with your comment that love isn't sustainable. And if we're discussing different types of love, then we must also discuss different types of drugs, which makes this discussion way too complicated.

And there is no such thing as a "healthy drug habit".

And mourning is completely subjective to the individual, everybody grieves differently and drugs shouldn't be used to fill the void of someone you love who has died. If anything I think taking drugs after you've lost your wife or child would be a horrible idea that would begin a downward spiral into even deeper sorrow. And drug users don't usually grow up to have families, you can't have both and be successful.

You don't seem to have ever experienced love and you are too biased to have a decent discussion. Besides this is not what this thread is intended for so I won't be discussing this any further.
 
Are you joking? Almost everyone uses drugs. 99% of Americans use at least caffeine, nicotine, ethanol, or an SSRI.

A good portion of Bluelight are responsible, drug using parents.

Also, if the media is to give us any indication of what success means, then the most successful people (rich celebrities) tend to use drugs the most!
 
I'm going with LOVE.

I imagine this website was spawned from love. Sure it started out as a raver site, but the idea behind it besides harm reduction was PLUR.

Peace LOVE unity respect.

So maybe ecstasy had some influence, but without LOVE we would not have this website.

Without LOVE there would be no need for drugs.

Without LOVE this thread would be pointless.

LOVE is the end ALL.
 
Love.

I remember thinking that I was falling in love with people while tripping on Psilocybin but it was not actually love or Eros. Also before I was sexually active and I was younger I thought I was falling in love with women but I really just wanted to have sex with them and I don't get the desire for women that I do from men.

Granted I don't regret my experiences with drugs but the years I was heavily using drugs even legal ones like alcohol which I was binge drinking on nightly for months it was all just to avoid relationships with people.
 
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drugs are faithful, can be more or less addicting than love, wont leave you, and chances are you like them all to some amount. however they are expensive and are fake feelings, unlike love which is very real

love can be fake too. you can think you have it when you dont. it will hurt when its gone, more than withdrawals. but it feels better than any drug ive had
 
Drugs and lots of Bass = Love

That deep sinking feeling in your heart is not worth early love. But if you think you've found a good one, baggem.
 
1) reciprocated love
2) having success at what you love to do most
3) drugs (and lots of bass)
 
drugs in the proper sense - 'hard' use (daily or at least habit forming) and 'hard' (i.e. opiates, amphetamines, benzos etc) drugs are never sustainable. we've all heard or lived the stories of monster tolerances, and they just keep going up and up. there is no happy ending to any of those stories.

drugs take time and effort and money. dealers are seldom reliable. relationships are the same in these aspects. in a lot of ways you can draw parallels between drug use and love, as people have said - love is an addiction in almost every way possible. dependence, withdrawal, unreliability, habit forming, all the joys combined with the pains. its another thing in life we sacrifice so much for, and not always get it back in return. at other times we can get a lot from a little sacrifice.


in writing this post i drew a lot of commonalities with love and drugs which i then had to edit out because i realised in a lot of ways it could just equally be applied to 'love' depending on your definition of love. maybe the drug high that a lot of us chase is the 'honeymoon period' feeling some of us chase when it comes to love.

i thought about how love plateaus and thats why its sustainable, unlike an addiction which continues to grow no matter what. i thought then, is love that plateaus, really still the type of love we're considering? or is that just a friendship/companionship which happens to also include sex?

i thought, how many of our long term relationships no longer compare to the first love, the first chase?

perhaps the thing which makes love seem more sustainable is that it usually depends on another person, and is less controllable in life. equally drugs require the same sort of dependence on another person - your dealer or doctor who is also subjective at times and can refuse to sell or script.

sorry for the rant.
 
I'm not sure why you think that's the proper sense of drugs. Those drugs blow and don't make you happy; everyone knows that.

Not everyone has to rely on a dealer or doctor for drugs. You can grow or make your own... It's pretty sustainable...
 
You only hear about stories about bad drug stories because your on a drug forum. The people having great times with hard drugs usually aren't looking for a forum site.
 
love is a drug.....it's addictive and can fuck you up if your not careful. they also can contradict one another imo.
i prefer love to drugs but i could never give up drugs for love. i can substitute drugs for love tho
 
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