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Harm Reduction Drugs not worth injecting

Captain.Heroin said:

There's no one easy way to go about it other than discuss what is "worth" it for you.
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I think for some people it comes down to if it will give you the best effect, that's kind of what I intended when I made this thread, though it might not have been clear. I know a lot of people that try and shoot up xanax, aderall etc, because they think it will give them some sort of rush, or a better high, and from my experience, I've found both to be no different,if not worse, and sometimes just awful.
 
megawoof said:
if you gonna iv bupe and its for people with small opoid use wouldnt it best best to source buprenex amps for harm reduction so you not shooting pills i think i would
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That, or use 0.22um micron filters on Subutex or Suboxone.

One buprenex ampule only has 0.3mg buprenorphine (0.324mg buprenorphine hydrochloride).

Whereas Subutex and Suboxone come in 2mg and 8mg pills.

You can see that the pills are more potent, and would last someone longer than one ampule would.
 
To me, the only drugs were injecting are heroin, Dilaudid, meth, and coke. All these seem like they are basically made for injecting. I understand IV coke is too intense and anxiety-inducing for some, but for me it's the only way worth doing coke at all (keep in mind I have never smoked crack).

I can see something like IR morphine or IR oxymorphone being worth injecting, however I have never come across these. I guess ampoules of anything are "worth" injecting, in that they are safe. Are IV benzos that fun? It doesn't seem like a drug that is that conducive to banging, since I can't imagine it has a fun rush and they have such high oral bioavailabilities, however I'm not a big benzo fan as it is. Normal amphetamine IV I imagine is very bad for you and also doesn't provide a great rush. To get a good meth IV rush, I had to do pretty big amounts, like around 100mg at least.
 
yeah I agree, shooting coke is the only way worth doing coke, I havn't sniffed it in like two years. I wrote before that I've I.V'd adderal generic before and it really sucks. You do get a rush, but its lame, and it doesn't feel good, my heart just starts to beat really fast about five seconds after injection. Then it all goes away after like two minutes. CH listed some benzo's that are worth injection, but the only ones I can easily find are xanax, k-pins, and ativan, which aren't water soluble enough.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
The problem is, what's "worth it" to one person isn't going to be "worth it" to another.

Some people don't think anything is worth IVing...so really it's not exactly a science of what's "worth" it or not.

We often advise people only IV from ampules, pure and sterile drugs, or use micron filters. Anything less than that isn't "worth" it for people who are interested in their health.

There's no one easy way to go about it other than discuss what is "worth" it for you. I don't even know if this really fits in Other Drugs either, this might be a better topic for Drug Culture.
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You are totally right. Something being "worth it" is extremely subjective and of course would be totally different for each person. I don't even know why I typed that. I sorry. I think what I was trying to say by using the term "worth it" is just something where the substance can be injected somewhat safely, using proper filtering technique and clean equipment, where it is supported by evidence from either research and/or user experiences that there is a commonly experienced benefit to using this ROA over others such as sublingual, oral, plugging, etc. Benefit, of course, is still pretty subjective but if it is a commonly experienced, predictable type of experience then it is a little easier to quantify or provide a measure of objectivity to something that is, by nature, subjective.

I hope that makes some sense........I just woke up a bit ago. Sorry again for not explaining what I was actually thinking in my head by that <3
 
Rolls are so impure, every time I do so called "ecstasy" I get a different buzz. Half the time im almost sure they are all amphetamine.

Molly, on the other hand, is a completely different ballgame :)

I've only ever ENJOYED Iv'd opiates. I tried cocaine IV once and thought I was going to die, but I was never much of a cocaine person, just an IV junkie.

IMHO, hydromorphone and the good ol' raw are the best when prepped for injection. Maybe if I could find some decently soluble benzos I would try it, but im not all too worried about it.
 
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