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Drugs Missing from Erowid.org?

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Metropolisforever

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Have you ever noticed anything missing or inaccurate from the world's most trusted drug site, Erowid.org? Erowid is a very valuable resource, but I've noticed a few odds and ends.

For one, 5-MeO-DPT is not listed. But, oddly enough, they have an experience vault for it.

Nitrites (poppers) do not have a main vault, but they have images and experiences sections for them. I hate how they are listed as "Inhalants - Nitrites", though. Nitrites are NOT inhalants. Inhalants are ordinary household objects (like duster and gasoline) containing chemicals that, when inhaled, make the brain think it's drowning, which causes a buzz. Inhalants are not intended to be inhaled. Nitrites are. Therefore, nitrites are not inhalants. Neither is nitrous oxide, carbogen, or xenon (which are not listed as inhalants). Just because something is inhaled does not make it an inhalant. Although I suppose that varies by definition.

PMA is listed, but not PMMA. PMA is para-Methoxyamphetamine. PMMA is para-Methoxymethamphetamine. Ironically, PMMA is actually safer. Although, that's not saying much.

Dextromethorphan is listed, but not dextrorphan.

Certain chemicals are not listed, but the plants that contain them are. For example: atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine. And, of course, THC.

I think "cannabis" and "hashish" should be two separate sections. They are closely related, but they are not the same thing.

Also, I would change "Spice product" to "synthetic cannabis". There are many different brands of synthetic weed; Spice is just one of them.

There are many, many, many more. Can you think of any?

Remember: no site is perfect.
 
Metropolisforever said:
Have you ever noticed anything missing or inaccurate from the world's most trusted drug site, Erowid.org? Erowid is a very valuable resource, but I've noticed a few odds and ends.

For one, 5-MeO-DPT is not listed. But, oddly enough, they have an experience vault for it.

Nitrites (poppers) do not have a main vault, but they have images and experiences sections for them. I hate how they are listed as "Inhalants - Nitrites", though. Nitrites are NOT inhalants. Inhalants are ordinary household objects (like duster and gasoline) containing chemicals that, when inhaled, make the brain think it's drowning, which causes a buzz. Inhalants are not intended to be inhaled. Nitrites are. Therefore, nitrites are not inhalants. Neither is nitrous oxide, carbogen, or xenon (which are not listed as inhalants). Just because something is inhaled does not make it an inhalant. Although I suppose that varies by definition.

PMA is listed, but not PMMA. PMA is para-Methoxyamphetamine. PMMA is para-Methoxymethamphetamine. Ironically, PMMA is actually safer. Although, that's not saying much.

Dextromethorphan is listed, but not dextrorphan.

Certain chemicals are not listed, but the plants that contain them are. For example: atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine. And, of course, THC.

I think "cannabis" and "hashish" should be two separate sections. They are closely related, but they are not the same thing.

Also, I would change "Spice product" to "synthetic cannabis". There are many different brands of synthetic weed; Spice is just one of them.

There are many, many, many more. Can you think of any?

Remember: no site is perfect.
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The definition for an inhalant is something that is inhaled. That is the official definition.
 
Actually, most people consider inhalants to be ordinary household objects that create a buzz through oxygen deprivation.
 
The definition isn't important - nitrites have activity within the body that isn't due solely to them being fat hydrophobic molecules. Hence the need for their own category. I think another term is needed for "classic" inhalants like gasoline, fluorocarbons etc that act through oxygen deprivation and messing with lipid bilayers instead of having a (well-defined) defined central action - whenever people start talking about inhalant drugs I very seldom start thinking about ether, halothane, nitrous etc...
 
Erowid is a great site, but they do seem to take forever to update things. Maybe we should all make a donation.
 
Metropolisforever said:
Have you ever noticed anything missing or inaccurate from the world's most trusted drug site, Erowid.org? Erowid is a very valuable resource, but I've noticed a few odds and ends.

For one, 5-MeO-DPT is not listed. But, oddly enough, they have an experience vault for it.

Nitrites (poppers) do not have a main vault, but they have images and experiences sections for them. I hate how they are listed as "Inhalants - Nitrites", though. Nitrites are NOT inhalants. Inhalants are ordinary household objects (like duster and gasoline) containing chemicals that, when inhaled, make the brain think it's drowning, which causes a buzz. Inhalants are not intended to be inhaled. Nitrites are. Therefore, nitrites are not inhalants. Neither is nitrous oxide, carbogen, or xenon (which are not listed as inhalants). Just because something is inhaled does not make it an inhalant. Although I suppose that varies by definition.

PMA is listed, but not PMMA. PMA is para-Methoxyamphetamine. PMMA is para-Methoxymethamphetamine. Ironically, PMMA is actually safer. Although, that's not saying much.

Dextromethorphan is listed, but not dextrorphan.

Certain chemicals are not listed, but the plants that contain them are. For example: atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine. And, of course, THC.

I think "cannabis" and "hashish" should be two separate sections. They are closely related, but they are not the same thing.

Also, I would change "Spice product" to "synthetic cannabis". There are many different brands of synthetic weed; Spice is just one of them.

There are many, many, many more. Can you think of any?

Remember: no site is perfect.
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Where are you gonna find dextrorphan? Nowhere. It is now virtually unseen on the streets and medicine. Since dextromethorphan is changed into dextrorphan and dextrorphan is really rare, it is seemingly unnecessary to list dextrorphan by itself.

THC is THC is THC. Hashish is a form of Cannibus.
Why would one list separate sections for THC only? There are a caseload more active cannibinoids than that. They would have to list them all separately. Instead to save space and confusion, Cannibus, Hashish, Hash oil, etc is in one place.

I do agree with you on the Spice product section. They should be "Synthetic Cannibinoids".

Also, yes no site is perfect, not even this one.
 
Just because it's rare doesn't mean it shouldn't be listed. If Bromo-DragonFLY is listed, why shouldn't dextrorphan be listed? It was a controversial substance a while back. Delsym contains dextrorphan as well as DXM.
 
Metropolisforever said:
Just because it's rare doesn't mean it shouldn't be listed. If Bromo-DragonFLY is listed, why shouldn't dextrorphan be listed? It was a controversial substance a while back. Delsym contains dextrorphan as well as DXM.
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It's rarer than that now. Plus, it is not an RC.

Also, Delsym does not contain dextrorphan. It is a schedule I drug. There is no way it is even near over the counter.
 
i was 99% sure dextrorphan or whatever and all the droogs that are analogs of DXM are actually extremely strong opioids.
last i knew, dextrophan was schedule 1 tho.
why have a PMMA vault?
ive attempted to research PMMA, PMEA and the like and i could only find a few experience reports..why have vaults for drugs that arent gonna get used?
PMA doesnt seem to be around, nonetheless PMMA..
 
Metropolisforever said:
It was FORMERLY a Schedule I drug.
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O.K. this is true.

But, it still is really rare (pure form) simply because it is a metabolite of DXM.

I guarantee that the way they are buckling down on DXM abuse, DXO will be right there with it because it is automatically be shunned as a active metabolite.
It will get scheduled again. There is no doubt about that.
 
Metropolisforever said:
Just because it's rare doesn't mean it shouldn't be listed. If Bromo-DragonFLY is listed, why shouldn't dextrorphan be listed? It was a controversial substance a while back. Delsym contains dextrorphan as well as DXM.
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They usually group very similar drugs..saves space and time and is more easily accessible. Dragonfly is seperated because it is chemically different than the other 2c-isomers..im not really sure..only time anyone I know got dextrorphan was from working at a pharmacy.
 
Metropolisforever said:
Inhalants are ordinary household objects (like duster and gasoline) containing chemicals that, when inhaled, make the brain think it's drowning, which causes a buzz. Inhalants are not intended to be inhaled. Nitrites are. Therefore, nitrites are not inhalants. Neither is nitrous oxide, carbogen, or xenon (which are not listed as inhalants).
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I'd just like to add that huffing doesn't just make the brain think it's drowning, it actually drowns it. Lack of oxygen buzz with no need to breath due to lack of CO2 which triggers it. The exact opposite of carbogen which triggers need to breath but you don't actually have to.
 
when ever i have gone to erowid to look up a drug before taking it they have had it, i haven't yet been to the website where they did not provide sufficient information about the drug i wanted to use.. but i know they have some drugs missing, i'm agreeing with who ever said donate, if they received a penny from everyone on bluelight . . . . 8)
 
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