Drugs in the future will there ever?

[gymstud]

I'm wondering if there will ever be a drug discovered like 2cb but with no side effects
That I could take everyday and have tolerence..

My guess is not why isn't it possible?

 

[Axed]

I wouldn't want a drug that I could take every day. I feel addiction would happen quick and be widespread among users.

IMO, everything has to have negatives to balance out the goods-- equivalent exchange. Tolerance, side effects like nausea, etc., all are worth it for the period of time that you spend under the effects of whatever drug you have taken.

What you want kind of reminds me of soma from Huxley's Brave New World. Citizens can take it every day with virtually no side effects, to help them sleep, calm down, or send them into a hallucinatory paradise. Except, it basically used by the government to control the people... not something that I want.

 

[gymstud]

Good points

I think side effects sometimes add to addiction potential
Cos you get high again cos you feel bad (not with psycs but stims opiats alchol)
And if you didn't feel shit next day thete would be no problem in taking everydays
As long as if you had something else todo your bain would let you

I do agree that drugs and many other rhings have bad points that balance out there good ones
I don't think there is a scientific reason that says it has to be so

In terms of it being to great a power to not be used to control the masses mmmm well there going to do it either way we might as well emjoy it

 

[any major dude]

Well usually the pleasurable effects are what cause the tolerance so you can't really separate the two. What type of side effects do you get from 2c-b? I find it quite easy on the body.

 

[gymstud]

Head ache next day and if I binge its worse
Probably sleep.deprivation expance feeling knackard for days
And being snappy with ppl
To be fair I do abuse rather use


Does actually pleasure real pleasure (e.g casual sex winning a fight(sports)) creat tolerance

 

[gymstud]

I would still want to doing boxing a use my car keep my job
Have relationships with my family so it wouldn't be all the time just in my spare (lol) time

 

[blueberries]

syd barrett's a prime example of why psys shouldnt be done every day
read his bio, its a bit depressing cos he was such a hero before lsd
having said that some people seem to be able to handle it, i mean look at the dead and all their followers, im sure theyve spent a considerable period of time on acid and now theyre just weed smoking hippies, could go one way or the other i guess
but as for future drugs...who knows

 

[twelvesevndi]

maybe you just need to try a different psychedelic. 2c-c and 4-aco-dmt have very few side effects ime.

or take less 2c-b. 30 mg ought to do you right if you only take it monthly. and a dose that size really shouldn't effect you the next day.
are you consuming alcohol or anything else when you trip?

or you could try 2c-e once and when you go back to 2c-b you'll be amazed at how gentle it is

 

[Axed]

my thought exactly. and this would probably lead to a chemical lobotomy if there is no relation anymore. being constantly on drugs is sooner or later your consensus reality and would not differ from your sober perspective now.

A similar non-drug induced reality was attained in the classic experiment where one George Stratton wore glasses that completely inverted his vision-- he saw everything as upside-down. But within a few days, he could see normally with the glasses on. Our brains quickly assimilate new information in an attempt to maintain homeostasis in all its forms.
(Original study here)

 

[gymstud]

maybe you just need to try a different psychedelic. 2c-c and 4-aco-dmt have very few side effects ime.

or take less 2c-b. 30 mg ought to do you right if you only take it monthly. and a dose that size really shouldn't effect you the next day.
are you consuming alcohol or anything else when you trip?

or you could try 2c-e once and when you go back to 2c-b you'll be amazed at how gentle it is

Yes sometimes to alchol so it is self inflicted
If you follow rules its fine

 

[gymstud]

A similar non-drug induced reality was attained in the classic experiment where one George Stratton wore glasses that completely inverted his vision-- he saw everything as upside-down. But within a few days, he could see normally with the glasses on. Our brains quickly assimilate new information in an attempt to maintain homeostasis in all its forms.
(Original study here)

Wel thats pretty cool
But if say you eat you fatty foods everyday thats still enjoyable

 

[Axed]

Eating fatty foods every day may be enjoyable for a while, but you can get addicted to that, too. Not to mention the array of negative side effects on the body. Nothing that good can come without a price. Equivalent exchange.

 

[twelvesevndi]

Yes sometimes to alchol so it is self inflicted
If you follow rules its fine

heh. i have made the same mistake many times

 

[gymstud]

Eating fatty foods every day may be enjoyable for a while, but you can get addicted to that, too. Not to mention the array of negative side effects on the body. Nothing that good can come without a price. Equivalent exchange.

Orgasms?

 

[Axed]

Lol now you're just being the devil's advocate. But like all other things, it requires energy to be expended. I suppose that's the trade-off.
Basically what I'm referring to is the Laws of Thermodynamics; energy is conserved in a closed system (among other components of said laws). It's why chemistry equations are balanced. It's why perpetual motion machines can't exist. It's why the perfect magic drug you want is impossible. At least, until science advances to a point where we are somehow able to fuck with the rules and fabric of our reality-- which can't end well.

 

[MrDiamondFDC]

syd barrett's a prime example of why psys shouldnt be done every day
read his bio, its a bit depressing cos he was such a hero before lsd
having said that some people seem to be able to handle it,

The Madcap Laughs is one of my favorite albums. RIP brother.

 

[Redbong]

Orgasms?

I work with a guy that I'd consider a sex addict. Side effects include sleeplessness, bodily injury, malnutrition, emotional stress (from not getting laid daily), and his poor kids who probably don't get nearly the attention they need. His stress level after not getting it for a day or two reminds me of a cocaine addict who can't find his bag. Everything has a balance. Yin and Yang.

 

[gymstud]

I work with a guy that I'd consider a sex addict. Side effects include sleeplessness, bodily injury, malnutrition, emotional stress (from not getting laid daily), and his poor kids who probably don't get nearly the attention they need. His stress level after not getting it for a day or two reminds me of a cocaine addict who can't find his bag. Everything has a balance. Yin and Yang.

Not sure how serious ypur beong but I used to be a sex addict was a problem cos o had a new casual sex partner eatch weel minimum and also I gf I lived with on a weekend

The reason that didn't work for me long term I.e while I moved on was I wanted a full time loving relationship

Also I would say find a new conquest having my few hours/ night of pastion I would say was equal to maybe some fet or a cpl of pills in terms of the happyness it provided

 

[gymstud]

Lol now you're just being the devil's advocate. But like all other things, it requires energy to be expended. I suppose that's the trade-off.
Basically what I'm referring to is the Laws of Thermodynamics; energy is conserved in a closed system (among other components of said laws). It's why chemistry equations are balanced. It's why perpetual motion machines can't exist. It's why the perfect magic drug you want is impossible. At least, until science advances to a point where we are somehow able to fuck with the rules and fabric of our reality-- which can't end well.

maybe I'm just making a point with that one
Also law conserveration (in a clossed system energy is not dustroyed only transfered) doesn't really aply
To our experiance of our time on earth
Maybe it would have to actually be magic

 

[Achten]

I'm wondering if there will ever be a drug discovered like 2cb but with no side effects
That I could take everyday and have tolerence..

My guess is not why isn't it possible?

I'd rather think it's possible we invent a "base drug", which gives every human a ++++, ending the human experiment (a la shulgin)
You'd feel "under the influence" all day, every day, but without taking a chemical. Or taking it only once, for that matter