another reason not to take psychedelics. prelonged use of such drugs have an adverse affect on the user's mental health. i myself have never used "trips" or anything psychedelic. my mental health is fragile enough without the introduction of such drugs. i have however witnessed "speed psychosis" in a couple of aquaintences and it isn't particularly pleasant to behold !
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Drugs, Gang Stalking and Targeting. A cautionary tale.
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KingOfWessex
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Excluding promoting early onset of schizophrenia for those predisposed and a few uncommon reactions, it is currently being rediscovered and scientifically documented that correctly using psychedelics improves mental health and has the ability to permanently cure many mental health conditions. Take a minute to read the top paper I linked a few posts back.
Extreme technology stalking isn't a mental illness or psychosis of the victim. Its a complex well planned heinous crime that uses complex psychological manipulation and torture.
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HarmReductionGuy
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Thanks everyone for your replies! I came here to warn people but also to start the dialog. I knew there would be other targets here.
What type of people do this to others? People like this stalk me:
. Or, you could walk down to 230 Cook Street in Huntington Station NY and ask! After me and my first friend got targeted, right before it happened to another friend, the guy here started harassing him. He said "Your so busted" and started making these bird sounds whenever he went outside - it could be 2AM the guy would be there "tweety tweety" in a very overt and obvious way. Then instantly, my friend is full out gang stalked by the community and hit with sonic / acoustic weapons. When a glass fish tank was thrown out of a car window at him, he was right there. Just like me, the initial phase included people making those whistling sounds at them. This is an abusive community notification program so the rules of engagement have been set. Lets let it work both ways. This Stasi policing is the reason why we live in a mass murder society. Its hard to even have an emotional reaction to mass violence anymore because its so common. You would have to be personally effected. Every time there is another mass murder or shooting, I write my story to the senators of that state. This must change, this is no way to run a country, this is a fast track way to drive a civilized society right into the ground. I'm going to get to the bottom of this torture program and I believe TIs will justice. I may have to seek refugee status in another county and fight my battles there but it will be worth it.
What type of people do this to others? People like this stalk me:
. Or, you could walk down to 230 Cook Street in Huntington Station NY and ask! After me and my first friend got targeted, right before it happened to another friend, the guy here started harassing him. He said "Your so busted" and started making these bird sounds whenever he went outside - it could be 2AM the guy would be there "tweety tweety" in a very overt and obvious way. Then instantly, my friend is full out gang stalked by the community and hit with sonic / acoustic weapons. When a glass fish tank was thrown out of a car window at him, he was right there. Just like me, the initial phase included people making those whistling sounds at them. This is an abusive community notification program so the rules of engagement have been set. Lets let it work both ways. This Stasi policing is the reason why we live in a mass murder society. Its hard to even have an emotional reaction to mass violence anymore because its so common. You would have to be personally effected. Every time there is another mass murder or shooting, I write my story to the senators of that state. This must change, this is no way to run a country, this is a fast track way to drive a civilized society right into the ground. I'm going to get to the bottom of this torture program and I believe TIs will justice. I may have to seek refugee status in another county and fight my battles there but it will be worth it.DrGonzo899
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What would the point of all this be in the end? Way too complex for just a couple ppl. And you're using too. Lemme guess... Stimulants?
Its funny i don't even worry about trying to convince ignorant people of this. Its just to hard to wrap your brain around if it has not happen to you. Thats just the way it is. My love goes out to all the victims of this shit and i dont know if it will help.. But fuck this shit.. Two pluss years and i rolling good. Sure i got smaked in the begining, but thats a long time ago. Roots are in exsperimental psychology, so if you have not done a decent study on this psycological field i would do that as you srart to see what they are really trying ro do. One of the major areas exsperimental psychologist are into is transferable bias. If you start to analyze the stimulus after studying this you can easily see what they are doing. If victims are unaware of the psychology being used its more effective. When you finally see whats going on it relieves allot of stress, because finally you can see through the madness they project. As far as warning other people.. I mean we can only do what we can to warn people and if these people actually new what the fuck we are forced to go through they would cry. Nothing like being tortured and then told your wacked out on drugs or crazy.
Banned Mind Control Techniques Unleashed is a great write up of the basic goals of mind control. Its spot on in my opinion. We have to figure this shit out or you get paranoid from the effects and think all kinds of crazy shit. No stalker is spending time throwing fish tanks out windows at us.
I have only seen my stalker Maybee once. I hate to question victims, but i have a very hard time believing that real people are really fucking wirh you constantly. My take on it is the psycological system is purposely making victims delusional. Thats part of the manipulation. If a person believes a delusion its a powerful as the trueth.
Banned Mind Control Techniques Unleashed is a great write up of the basic goals of mind control. Its spot on in my opinion. We have to figure this shit out or you get paranoid from the effects and think all kinds of crazy shit. No stalker is spending time throwing fish tanks out windows at us.
I have only seen my stalker Maybee once. I hate to question victims, but i have a very hard time believing that real people are really fucking wirh you constantly. My take on it is the psycological system is purposely making victims delusional. Thats part of the manipulation. If a person believes a delusion its a powerful as the trueth.
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swilow
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We have the OP claiming to be gang stalked by detectives, and madness's friend having a baby clothes sort of queer eye makeover. What's the connection though?
The link is individual believing groups are targeting them. Vastly different groups, so you cannot really say both people are being stalked in the same way.
Common factor between two people having vastly different experiences of gang stalking is drug use.
I don't believe this stuff for a moment. Occams razor would certainly posit that it is more likely to be a psychotic issue rather than a huge, completely secretive conspiracy with no apparent endgame or purpose besides annoying people. What is more likely?
Of course, having experienced psychosis, I know how convincing it is. It feels real. It's not though.
The one study cited in this article found that most people reporting gang stalking had psychotic symptoms or delusions.
The link is individual believing groups are targeting them. Vastly different groups, so you cannot really say both people are being stalked in the same way.
Common factor between two people having vastly different experiences of gang stalking is drug use.
I don't believe this stuff for a moment. Occams razor would certainly posit that it is more likely to be a psychotic issue rather than a huge, completely secretive conspiracy with no apparent endgame or purpose besides annoying people. What is more likely?
Of course, having experienced psychosis, I know how convincing it is. It feels real. It's not though.
The one study cited in this article found that most people reporting gang stalking had psychotic symptoms or delusions.
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The baby clothes and moved furniture is gasslighting. They do the most wacked out shit because when a victim taell people about it they sound crazy. People that are into this shit are masters of manipulation. If a person questions their own sanity then they are easier to control. The trueth is that their are wicked people out there that do shit like this and its so dysfunctional that its difficult to believe.
Xorkoth
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Okay everyone needs to chill out. First of all, making fun of the OP in The Dark Side forum is not cool. Regardless of anything, this person came here for help, not to be mocked. This is a serious forum, and it doesn't help anyone to make them feel like a fool.
Second of all, NSA, I know you want people to believe that this kind of thing is real, and you've laid out some good evidence in your mind control thread in CEPS. But that being said, my best friend was psychotic on meth and basically sounded exactly like this. Turns out, he was temporarily psychotic because of drug paranoia. I'm not saying that is definitely what's going on here but most of the time, there is a reason people start believing exactly this kind of stuff. It would be against HR to not introduce that idea and assume there is a good chance that's what it is. People are not being "sheeple" because their first guess at why someone is talking like this is stimulant psychosis, on a drug forum. Perhaps high-tech devices exist to make people act crazy, but whether or not they do, excess dopamine and lack of sleep certainly do the job as well and are probably more likely in any given case.
There's really no reason for anyone to be being rude or dismissive or upset here. Regardless of the truth - and let me just say, this sounds like classic stimulant psychosis, so OP, IF you are using stimulants at all (you don't need to tell us, you know whether or not you are, it doesn't matter what we think), stop them entirely for a while and let us know if this persists. One of the biggest and most important features of psychosis is that you believe 100% that it's real, otherwise it would be hallucinations, not psychosis - regardless of the truth, someone is suffering so this should be taken seriously and not mocked.
Second of all, NSA, I know you want people to believe that this kind of thing is real, and you've laid out some good evidence in your mind control thread in CEPS. But that being said, my best friend was psychotic on meth and basically sounded exactly like this. Turns out, he was temporarily psychotic because of drug paranoia. I'm not saying that is definitely what's going on here but most of the time, there is a reason people start believing exactly this kind of stuff. It would be against HR to not introduce that idea and assume there is a good chance that's what it is. People are not being "sheeple" because their first guess at why someone is talking like this is stimulant psychosis, on a drug forum. Perhaps high-tech devices exist to make people act crazy, but whether or not they do, excess dopamine and lack of sleep certainly do the job as well and are probably more likely in any given case.
There's really no reason for anyone to be being rude or dismissive or upset here. Regardless of the truth - and let me just say, this sounds like classic stimulant psychosis, so OP, IF you are using stimulants at all (you don't need to tell us, you know whether or not you are, it doesn't matter what we think), stop them entirely for a while and let us know if this persists. One of the biggest and most important features of psychosis is that you believe 100% that it's real, otherwise it would be hallucinations, not psychosis - regardless of the truth, someone is suffering so this should be taken seriously and not mocked.
Wilson Wilson
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Agreed with the above that there is no reason for mockery here. I do think this is certainly psychosis but psychosis is serious and should be treated. There's no MKULTRA gang putting baby clothes in peoples' houses and stalking people. If you actually read into MKULTRA that's not even how it works. Those experiments were done in controlled environments not by street stalkers and there's no evidence MKULTRA ever worked on non-consenting targets. The only successful MKULTRA experiments we know about were performed on subjects who consented to be hypnotised. And hypnotism is legit and can be used as a form of "mind control" but it only works if your subject consents to it. The CIA tried for decades to overcome this limitation with MKULTRA and failed.
All this to say, unless you have consented to hypnotism you are not under some kind of MKULTRA style mind control.
Occam's razor says it's far more likely to be psychosis, whether it's underlying and triggered possibly by drugs, or caused entirely by stimulant abuse, both are far more likely than the CIA stalking you. It's telling that there's no evidence in any of these cases.
Frankly the US government is too busy bombing the Middle East for oil to waste their time and money stalking drug users. If they really wanted to go after drug users they'd just arrest them, it makes far more sense than CIA mind control no?
But you can't talk someone out of psychosis it's not that simple, so all I can say to anyone experiencing this is seek treatment.
All this to say, unless you have consented to hypnotism you are not under some kind of MKULTRA style mind control.
Occam's razor says it's far more likely to be psychosis, whether it's underlying and triggered possibly by drugs, or caused entirely by stimulant abuse, both are far more likely than the CIA stalking you. It's telling that there's no evidence in any of these cases.
Frankly the US government is too busy bombing the Middle East for oil to waste their time and money stalking drug users. If they really wanted to go after drug users they'd just arrest them, it makes far more sense than CIA mind control no?
But you can't talk someone out of psychosis it's not that simple, so all I can say to anyone experiencing this is seek treatment.
@neversickanymore I believe every word you are saying and I’m not a drug user, drug addict, or even drug experimenter! I have witnessed the fear, agony, horror, embarrassment, shame, anger and on and on with one of my dear childhood friends. We are 36 years old now and I don’t have this problem, but he does and has now for about 5 or 6 years. It’s so bad that he’s spent about 80% of the last 5 years of life incarcerated. It started with hearing things, like phrases and words. Then seeing the same people, people he did not know everywhere and then to being followed by similar cars, same color same make and model, not just one, but many more than 10 everyday. His electronic devices, computer, phones, tablets, all aspects of his daily life were/are being run, controlled, manipulated by whoever makes up this certain group of gang-stalkers. My friend is very smart, both street and book smart, but he’s being made to appear delusional, crazy, psychotic, irrational, BUT HE IS NOT, NOT AT ALL! What if anything can be done to save my friend, to save his life? I’m afraid that it’s not going to just “go away” and then his life will just “blink” go back to how it was. I think the gang stalkers want to see him imprisoned for life, sent to a state mental institution, or worse dead. Please help if you can. People this is too real, so real. Open your eyes, THIS IS NOT A JOKE
Wilson Wilson
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@Heada120 you literally just listed all symptoms of psychosis... it is serious yes, and no it won't just disappear, but not because the "stalking" and "mind control" is real, rather because psychosis is a serious condition that needs treatment.
Hearing things, thinking people are following you, believing people watch you through your electronics and control your life and/or mind is all textbook severe psychosis and should be treated by a professional psychiatrist.
Hearing things, thinking people are following you, believing people watch you through your electronics and control your life and/or mind is all textbook severe psychosis and should be treated by a professional psychiatrist.
Few questions for ya
How was hi electronic devices being controlled? What was happening to them?
Could the similar cars just be because there’s lots of cars the same everywhere? They sell thousands u know.
What would “they” gain from him being locked up or dead?
What was he locked up for?
How was hi electronic devices being controlled? What was happening to them?
Could the similar cars just be because there’s lots of cars the same everywhere? They sell thousands u know.
What would “they” gain from him being locked up or dead?
What was he locked up for?
I definitely understand what you are saying as I know all the symptoms the criteria for psychosis; I am a LMSW (licensed masters social worker) and I myself didn’t believe him for the first two or three years.
Wilson Wilson
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I have a schizophrenic neighbour so I've seen this for myself, it's scary isn't it because they truly believe what they are saying so they're very convincing in their tone, but it's all delusions that needs treatment.
Jabberwocky
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@swilow there weren't drugs used in my friends case. Just petty gas lighting, but they did escalate over time.
I'm not trying to convince anyone either, @neversickanymore , so let's just leave it alone.
I'm not trying to convince anyone either, @neversickanymore , so let's just leave it alone.
Honestly, you believe that all the reports of gang stalking come from “untreated” mentally ill and mentally unstable people? The similarities in the stories? All just psychotic individuals having active hallucinations and delusional thinking?
Wilson Wilson
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The similarities come from psychotic people finding online communities of other psychotic people that offer an explanation for their psychotic thoughts and grab onto it.
Others come from psychosis symptoms simply causing similar forms of "magical thinking" in affected people. Like believing you're being followed and watched is just a common symptom of psychosis. As is hearing voices. It's literally the definition of textbook psychosis. They're the symptoms.
Wilson Wilson
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